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Oct-29-14
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  zanzibar: <RE: Doyen>

<doyen early 15c.,

from Middle French doyen "commander of ten,"

from Old French deien (see dean).>

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php...

Who knew that doyen and dean were related?!

* * * * *

Google results:

<allintext: "the doyen" site:wordpress.com> -- About 77,800 results

<allintext: "a doyen" site:wordpress.com> -- About 45,700 results

The trouble is that I can't search for regexps on google, and so <a <adj> doyen> will be missed. Of course the same goes for <the <adj> doyen>. So take these numbers are just indications of usage.

Oct-29-14  ljfyffe: <Who knew doyen and dean were related> Well I am surprised ---quite a few people know that Gabriel Doyen and Dean Wolstenholme were related: ie in the sense that they both were painters during the 17 and 18 hundreds....one French; the other, British.
Oct-30-14
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  WCC Editing Project:

<Chessical>

Here is Game Collection: Korchnoi - Geller Candidates Quarterfinal 1971, with all of your fine research and intro added now.

We need to find the game dates eh?

I don't have anything in my collection to help, but hopefully our colleagues may be able to help find them.

Oct-30-14
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  crawfb5: <We need to find the game dates eh?>

This is what I see from the NY Times:

1 -- 13 May
2 --
3 -- 17 May
4 -- 18 May
5 --
6 -- 24 May
7 -- 26 May
8 -- 31 May

I have not made changes to the games yet in case somebody comes up with different dates (and to try to grab a bit more sleep before the dogs get rowdy).

Oct-30-14
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  WCC Editing Project:

<Big Crawdaddy>

Outstanding. Missing only two rounds, now, thanks to you being a retired reporter for the New York Times.

I agree to wait on adding in the game dates until others might be able to come up with more information.

Have you considered switching to a "Cat Alarm Clock"?

Oct-30-14
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  WCC Editing Project:

<Chessical>

On Game Collection: Korchnoi - Geller Candidates Quarterfinal 1971, I notice you list <ChessBase “Big Database 2013”> as a source.

Do those pgns have the game dates on them by any chance?

Oct-30-14
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  crawfb5: 15 May seems like a reasonable assumption for Game 2, but that's a bigger gap between Games 4 and 6. Perhaps there was a sick day or two.

<Cat Alarm Clock>
Introduction of a cat among all these dogs would simulate WWIII, possibly ending in a cat ass trophy.

Oct-30-14
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  Tabanus: Reuter report in Omaha World Herald 20 May p. 10: Game 4 <adjourned Wednesday night on the 43rd move>. So

Game 4 = May 19 (a Wednesday)

Oct-30-14
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  Tabanus: Reuter report in Omaha World Herald 21 May p. 34: <The fifth game is Saturday>:

Game 5 = May 22 (a Saturday)

Greensboro Record 27 May p. 33: <adjourned their seventh game Wednesday night>:

Game 7 = May 26 (a Wednesday)

Oct-30-14
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  Tabanus: Best I have:

1 -- 13 May
2 --
3 -- 17 May
4 -- 19 May
5 -- 22 May
6 -- 24 May
7 -- 26 May
8 -- 31 May

Game 2 is reported in newspapers on Monday 17 May, I'd say 15 May is pretty certain. I was not able to verify game 8.

Oct-30-14
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  Tabanus: But the Icelandic Visir of 1 June p. 3 has that "Korchnoi won the 8th game yesterday", so I'd say

Game 8 = May 31

Oct-30-14
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  Tabanus: Conclusion:

1 -- 13 May
2 -- 15 May
3 -- 17 May
4 -- 19 May
5 -- 22 May
6 -- 24 May
7 -- 26 May
8 -- 31 May

Oct-30-14
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  crawfb5: <Tabanus> Looks good to me.
Oct-30-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  WCC Editing Project:

Excellent result! You gentlemen would make a formidable tag team wrestling opponent.

Here is an audiovisual aid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYva...

Oct-30-14
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  zanzibar: 13, 15, 17, 19, 22, 24, 26, 31

< May 1971

Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa

... .... .... .... ... .... 01

02 03 04 05 06 07 08

09 10 11 12 13 14 15

16 17 18 19 20 21 22

23 24 25 26 27 28 29

30 31>

Oct-30-14
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  WCC Editing Project:

<zebbedee> Thanks for the Bronze Age calendar!

So I'll just enter those game dates on the cg.com pages now.

If shocking new information arises, we can always change them if we need to.

Oct-30-14
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  WCC Editing Project:

Contemporaneous newspapers trump chess history books for dates- so it's a good job you guys know how to find and read the old newspapers.

Wade and Blackstock appear to have listed an incorrect finish date for this match:

<"May 13th - June 6th"

- RG Wade and LS Blackstock, “Korchnoi's 400 Best Games” (Batsford 1978), p.179>

Oct-31-14
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  Tabanus: The Budapest playoff is up for Game Collection Voting.

No exact venue, no organizer, no arbiter, no seconds, no picture! I've tried my best to find out. Perhaps the Hungarians kept these things top secret?

Oct-31-14
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  Chessical: Game Collection: Korchnoi - Geller Candidates Quarterfinal 1971 , the match referee was Mikenas. "Chess", vol 36, nos. 631-2, August 1971, page 344.
Oct-31-14
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  WCC Editing Project:

<Chessical> Excellent.

Oct-31-14
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  OhioChessFan: IMHO, 5 votes is too few to be inducted. For all the work and hours put in here, that a tournament can receive 5 votes in a couple hours and the vast majority of the Bistro never sees it doesn't seem commensurate.
Oct-31-14
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  WCC Editing Project:

I vote we keep it at 5 votes. More isn't necessary, because if an editor notices something they want changed, they can just say so, and the creator(s) and colleagues can evaluate the request.

It is a simple matter to change anything in any of the promoted events in the <Tournament Index>.

Oct-31-14
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  Benzol: In the past haven't we had trouble in just getting five voters? Some nominated matches/tournaments have sat there for weeks IIRC.
Oct-31-14
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  zanzibar: Perhaps you could add a clause that states that there is a minimum quorum (< 5) for nomination and that after a fixed period of time (? 2-3 weeks) the vote is tallied as is, even if threshold (>= 5) isn't met.

That way a vote doesn't go stale from lack of interest.

Oct-31-14
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  Tabanus: I followed language advice from PMD and Ohio and made some minor changes to Budapest Interzonal Playoff (1979) after voted in.

5 votes is fine with me, but perhaps 6 would be more reasonable. A "timer" would be fine I think but <(? 2-3 weeks)> is far too long. Perhaps 2-3 days, even if 5 or 6 yes votes?

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