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Jan-11-19  Telemus: <z: are you able to read Dutch> Chess reports in newspapers: yes, because there are enough words that translate automatically.
Jan-11-19  Paint My Dragon: <Tab> Re: Portisch-Nunn 1987, I think the English reads very well on the whole. I'd only suggest you alter this line ...

<There were magazine and newspaper writers, television coverage, and even the hotel staff were watching the games.>

as 'there were ... television coverage' doesn't work grammatically.

You could consider-
<In addition to the television coverage, magazine and newspaper writers attended, and even the hotel staff were watching the games>

Jan-11-19
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  OhioChessFan: <would advance to the seven Candidates eighthfinal matches in 1988.>

Not sure where that "eighth" came from, but looks like a copy/paste error. Would be nice to know what 140,000 forints (surely it's the number 140,000, not some unusual reckoning of 140.000 forints)would be worth today in US Dollars.

I think <PMD's> suggested edit is good, although I'd deny that the cited clause is grammatically incorrect. A series of ones still carries a plural verb case, eg, "In the Biographer's Bistro, there were <OCF>, <PMD> and <Tab> discussing the edit.

Jan-12-19
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  Tabanus: Thanks guys. I nominated but it can still be commented on.

PMD sentence adopted. Added "If 3-3, the players would get 100,000 forints each, (5) <i. e. around 8500 USD in 2019 value.>" Not 100% sure if this is correct, please check.

"Eighthfinal" (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eigh...), is it Ok? It's already been used (Portisch - Vaganian Candidates Eighthfinal (1988)). At http://www.chessdiagonals.ch/431660... there is "Candidates eighthfinal match" but the term seems to be rare.

Jan-12-19  Paint My Dragon: <Eighthfinal> Well yes, it is quite rare. I don't think of it as a common term, yet it is more descriptive than the alternatives.

Alternatives would be:
<First Round (or Round One) Candidates Matches>, typically found in magazines, or

<Preliminary Candidates Matches>, which is what Mark Weeks uses.

Depends on whether you favour tradition or a more 'mathematical' approach.

Jan-12-19
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  Annie K.: <Tabanus: <On game 5, I wrote "ghostly copy" etc. The Hungarian text is

<A további lépések is kísértetiesen hasonlítottak a hétfői játszmára. Ahogy akkor is, most is a 13. lépésben — mintegy félórás játék után — állapodtak meg a döntetlenben>>>

The correct translation would be:

The following moves have also eerily resembled Monday's game. Like then, now too, in 13 moves - after about half an hour's play - they agreed to a draw.

Jan-12-19
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  Tabanus: "Eerily resembled" it is. Google translate: "were ghostly similar".

I'll stick to eighthfinal for now. In Norwegian the term is quite common (spelled as åttendedelsfinale, often misspelled as åttendelsfinale).

Jan-12-19
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  OhioChessFan: For our provinicial English speakers, maybe "Eighthfinal [sic]" But if it's a valid translation, it might enlighten those who question it enough to find out what it means.
Jan-16-19
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  Tabanus: http://ohiowrestling.net/2012/03/nc..., the Ohio wrestlers are using it ;)

<Annie> Is it World Blitz/Rapid Championship or Blitz/Rapid World Championship? Consistence, please. Your "week or two" is up!

Jan-16-19
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  MissScarlett: <Tab>, were you behind the identification of Richard Roe Rabson?
Jan-16-19
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  Tabanus: <MissS> I'm not 100% sure because of bad memory but don't think so. Hmm, the name reminds me of something.

I'll have a look if you exercise your voting right ;)

Jan-16-19
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  MissScarlett: Vote for <Hazz>: Caissars Voting Page
Jan-17-19
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  Stonehenge: Does anyone know when the 1970 Czechoslovak Championship was held?

Di Felice has June 27 - July 13, but Chessbase has May 28 - June 13.

Jan-17-19  Retireborn: <Stonehenge> Were there two tournaments, one Czech, one Czechoslovak?
Jan-17-19  nok: <<Annie> Is it World Blitz/Rapid Championship or Blitz/Rapid World Championship?>

<Annie>-one can see that World Blitz is plain better.

Jan-17-19
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  zanzibar: <Stonehenge> could you perhaps share Di Felices cited reference with us?

.

Jan-17-19  Retireborn: <z> Google Czechoslovak chess 1970 Havirov, and you should see it.
Jan-17-19
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  zanzibar: <RB> usually the one making the request should, as a matter of course, provide such info. If only as a courtesy.

Di Felice p294 cites <Schach 1970, p271>.

I'd go with Di Felice, unless <CB> cites a competing source.

.

Jan-17-19  Retireborn: I'd certainly be inclined to trust Di Felice over Chessbase.
Jan-17-19
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  zanzibar: BCM mentions it from v90-91 (1970) p220, but I only get a very small snippet.
Jan-17-19
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  zanzibar: I have yet another set of dates:

<1970.05.26-1970.06.14>

Cs. sach 1970, p59

But I cannot confirm.

Jan-17-19
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  zanzibar: (Di Felice is known to occasionally make errors - it would be nice to double-check his source - in other words, now I'm leaning towards the <CB> dates)
Jan-17-19  Retireborn: Heh. I'm still leaning towards my two-tournament solution :)
Jan-17-19
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  zanzibar: After (late) dinner, took a quick look for a contemporaneous source...

Here is a standings report after R10, from 1970-06-08 p7c7

<Rudé právo
Ústřední orgán Komunistické strany Československa>

http://www.digitalniknihovna.cz/mzk...

So, give or take a day here or there on the brackets, that puts this one to bed.

Jan-18-19
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  Stonehenge: Sorry, I logged off shortly after I posted. Thanks to you guys. So Chessbase has the right dates. I will enter them later today.
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