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  MissScarlett: <Newark Evening News, Evening Post Ladderites>

Funny, it only just occurred, but I expect the source is on the tin, so to speak.

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  crawfb5: [Event "simul"]
[Site "New York, NY, USA"]
[Date "1931.02.12"]
[Round ""]
[White "Capablanca, Jose Raul"]
[Black "New York Athletic Club"]
[Result "1-0"]

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 Nf6 4.Bc4 Be7 5.dxe5 dxe5 6.Qxd8+ Bxd8 7.Nxe5 O-O 8.f3 c6 9.a4 Nbd7 10.Nxd7 Bxd7 11.Nc3 h6 12.Bf4 Re8 13.O-O Bb6+ 14.Kh1 Rad8 15.Rad1 Bc8 16.Rxd8 Rxd8 17.Rd1 Rxd1+ 18.Nxd1 Kf8 19.Be3 Bxe3 20.Nxe3 g6 21.Kg1 Ke7 22.Kf2 Bd7 23.Ba2 Nh5 24.g3 Ng7 25.f4 f6 26.Kf3 h5 27.b4 Ne6 28.Bxe6 Bxe6 29.f5 Bf7 30.fxg6 Bxg6 31.Kf4 Ke6 32.Nf5 Bxf5 33.exf5+ Kd6 34.h3 Ke7 35.g4 hxg4 36.hxg4 Ke8 37.g5 fxg5+ 38.Kxg5 Kf7 39.f6 a6 40.Kf5 b6 41.Ke5 1-0

New York Evening Post 7 Mar 1931 p 8

The Fulton scan is a little blurry, so if anyone wants to double check or can access the paper through another source, great.

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  Penguincw: Just wondering. How games are allowed in one game collection (for premium and non-premium members).

(thanks in advance)

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  crawfb5: <Penguincw: Just wondering. How games are allowed in one game collection (for premium and non-premium members).>

400 and 101 are the last numbers I saw from the account with a search. There is likely a 1000 collection limit for premium members, but I doubt anybody is approaching that.

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  zanzibar: <crawfb5> You've posted on this max collection size topic before:

crawfb5 chessforum (kibitz #2005)

I actually had the, er, pleasure of having <CG> bump the limit up for one of my (now defunct) collections:

Biographer Bistro (kibitz #11779)

I doubt <CG> allows 1000 games, Dan was always a bit tight with limits for some reason (e.g. <CG> PGN source tag limit of 60 vs. PGN tag limit of 255 characters).

So - what is the exact current limit?

(The best I've got is "upwards of 400" games)

PS- Here is <thomastonk>'s monstrous collection/work, finally promoted into a bona fide tournament:

Manila Interzonal (1990)

Is this the largest # games for a tournament on <CG>?


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  crawfb5: <z> That was 1K <collections>, not 1K <games> in a single collection, and that was Daniel's recollection/estimation. chessforum (kibitz #23454)

<thomastonk> claimed it had been bumped to 450 in a post near one of your links. I'll take that as the limit until shown otherwise.

Too tired to continue. Goodnight

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  zanzibar: <crawfb5> sweet deams, bucko!
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<Duplicate Player Page> No correction slip sumbitted, to my knowledge:

Vladimir Petrov (kibitz #1148)

<<chesshistoryinterest> I think there'll be a few cases of a player having two separate player pages floating around on One I found is "V Kappe" and "V Kalde". Valter Kappe [who is the guy who (in)famously beat Keres in the last round of the 1933 Estonian Championship qualifier, thus delaying Keres' entry into the Estonian Championship for a year] changed his name in late 1936 or early 1937 to Vello Kalde. See >

These are the two player pages in question:

V Kappe

V Kalde

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  MissScarlett: Turns out <Caparros (2e 1994)> has 28 scores - Capablanca vs Empire City Chess Club, 1931 is our additional game.

Of the 28 games, the source of 21 is the generic <New York newspaper>; 3 others specify the <New York Sun> and 4 are <Capablanca (Winter)>. But only one of these four are actually in Winter's book. The <New York Sun> games are Columbia, Holsatia and Empire City (A) but (even assuming this information is correct) we already have an alternative source for those.

So we're none the wiser in identifying the missing sources.

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  MissScarlett: <The Fulton scan is a little blurry, so if anyone wants to double check or can access the paper through another source, great.>

Do you remember what search terms you used to find this?

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  crawfb5: A Boolean search for <New York NY Evening Post 1931 and Capablanca and armory> should find the page (1664.pdf) with the NY Athletic Club game.
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  Tabanus: Happy new year! Also to <Annie>, to whom I present these suggestions:

FIDE World Rapid Championship (2013), delete FIDE
FIDE World Rapid Championship (2014), delete FIDE
King Salman Rapid World Championship (2018) --> World Rapid Championship

Women's World Rapid Championship (2012) --> World Rapid Championship (Women)
Women World Rapid Championship (2014) --> World Rapid Championship (Women)
King Salman Rapid World Championship (Women) (2018) --> World Rapid Championship (Women)

FIDE World Blitz Championship (2013), delete FIDE
FIDE World Blitz Championship (2014), delete FIDE
King Salman Blitz World Championship (2018) --> World Blitz Championship

Women World Blitz Championship (2014) --> World Blitz Championship (Women)
King Salman Blitz World Championship (Women) (2018) --> World Blitz Championship (Women)

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  Annie K.: Actually, I prefer the word order 'Rapid/Blitz World Championship'. Give it another week or two, to make sure all the aftershocks from the latest entries have died down, and I'll get to them. :)

As to your question about Game Collection: Budapest Interzonal Playoff 1987, I've given it some consideration, but I'm seeing some entertainment value in the current setup, which already has some interesting kibitzing on this subject. Frankly, invalidating this amusing anecdotal material in favor of deliberately creating a pair of rather uninteresting duplicate games, doesn't really strike me as an improvement.

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  Tabanus: 'Rapid/Blitz World Championship' is fine I guess, but then there are more to change than those in my list - i. e. all of them, about 44 events.

There is also 'Rapid/Blitz European Championship' ...

I was thinking of the option to kibitz also on Game 5. Well, I can live without it. The table can be edited. You may not know how to avoid machine rejection anyway ;)

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  Tabanus: There is a Game Collection: Online sources for those who might want to use it or clone it.

Just in case I remove it from my forum header.

Jan-02-19  Galion: Christopher Woojin Yoo was born on December 19, 2006. (
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  Tabanus: <Paint My Dragon> Are you still here? On Game Collection: Budapest Interzonal Playoff 1987, I should include what is in Chess and BCM. Especially if Nunn writes there. So if you have the time... only the most important stuff, and it does not have to be paraphrased.
Jan-03-19  Paint My Dragon: <Tabanus> Happy New Year. I trust that you have been rejoicing in the good fortunes of your esteemed countryman, <OG Solskjaer>. He is doing a splendid job, as he did in his playing days, and despite looking a lot like <Gollum>.

Those magazines will be checked out very soon. Unusually, I also have a bound copy of <New In Chess> for 1987, so that's probably where I'll start.

Jan-03-19  Retireborn: <PmD> Gollum?! He was known as the baby-faced assassin in his playing days. Who could forget that fateful day in 1999, when he left the Bavarians weeping and beating the pitch?

I used to own a copy of BCM where Nunn does indeed analyze all the games of his Portisch match.

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  Tabanus: <PMD> Happy New Year back :) Thanks! Better than Busby?

I read that Nunn wrote something but did not know it was in BCM. A kibitzer also says there's a report by someone in the December 1987 issue of CHESS.

Jan-03-19  Paint My Dragon: <Tab> Well, not yet in the Busby or Ferguson league, but if he keeps this up, then he may earn himself a more permanent role. It's a great start!

Yes, BCM, as <Retireborn> correctly points out, gives Nunn's thorough analysis of the games.

In terms of background chat, nothing much was said - mostly a glowing report of Budapest and the fact that conditions were much better than at Szirak. Nunn was even given all the hotel room keys and invited to pick the room he liked best.

Sponsors from the oil and banking sectors paid 'good' prize money to both contestants, which was a generous act, as FIDE rules did not require it for a play-off match.

Nunn remarks that 'many people' took a keen interest, local newspaper and magazine writers, television coverage etc ... and even the hotel staff were watching.

<Janos Kadar> of the Hungarian Socialist Worker Party (the country's leading politician) came to watch the 6th game and stayed for 5 hours, showing that he too was a big chess fan.

Nunn's chances took a big knock at game 1. Portisch would win on tie-break if it reached 3-3, so Nunn threw caution to the wind by playing his first ever Grunfeld Defence. Unfortunately for him, Portisch essayed a line he had not played before, and even introduced a new idea on move 9, with 9.e5 instead of the usual 9.f3. Nunn could not find a good answer and soon went down.

-BCM -December 1987, p.514


A comment from BH Wood (in CHESS Magazine, Christmas 1987, p.308, about game 2), that only becomes humorous with the passage of time ...

<"Nunn's vast range of book titles testifies to his modern opening repertoire and theoretical grasp, so Portisch revives an old chestnut, the Berlin Defence.">


Nothing of note in <New In Chess>.

Unfortunately, the magazines were largely distracted by some other tedious match going on at the same time ... Karpov-Kasparov I think they said it was.

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  Tabanus: <PMD> Many thanks!

This is enough to scrape something together. It will probably take some time (weeks), then I'll let you have a look before promoting.

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  Tabanus: The Kasparov - Karpov World Championship Match (1987) started a week after the playoff ended. It says <In 1987, the candidates cycle format was changed> - should be 1985 (Montpellier Candidates (1985)). And the Footnotes link below doesn't work.
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  MissScarlett: <PGN SUBMITTED--THANK YOU! Please allow several years for us to review your submission.>
Jan-10-19  Retireborn: Is anything known about the ENPS 1941 Amsterdam tournament, won by Euwe?

I found one hit on Delpher which calls it a Vierkamp (does that mean four players? Not sure) and mentions Euwe, Kmoch, van Steenis, and Landau.

A link to the Ken Whyld assoc, which <Tab> had kindly provided me, gives bracket dates of 5-21 September, which suggests that more than 3/4 games were played.

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