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|Jul-01-19|| ||MissScarlett: Aaaaaaaaagggggghhhhhhhh! It was. I knew there was a missing Blackburne-Lee game from that event (they played 3x), but I confused them.|
I've asked this before, but what's stopping you from importing all of the available files from Britbase?
|Jul-01-19|| ||Annie K.: What Daniel once said about this question was that, firstly he wanted to be more discriminating in favor of game quality than to import entire databases; and secondly that we have already spent an enormous amount of time correcting various errors in games, and "re"-importing the erroneous versions of these games with such a mass import project would cause a great deal of confusion and damage. |
So I'd rather trust our conscientious and responsible editors to only suggest smaller batches of game imports, when and where they know what they are talking about reasonably well. ;)
|Jul-01-19|| ||jessicafischerqueen: |
<we have already spent an enormous amount of time correcting various errors in games, and "re"-importing the erroneous versions of these games with such a mass import project would cause a great deal of confusion and damage.>
Thanks <Annie> I have spend untold hours ferreting out mistakes on pgns from 365Chess, Rusbase, Olimpbase.
At least 365Chess is on the game- they are very receptive to corrections (if they are supplied with actual sources).
Olimpbase has many, many games with the incorrect players. This is especially true with Latvian teams. I am preparing correction slips on that very topic, but I want to be sure I have all ducks in a row. Already we were the first database to correct Tenis Melngailis games attributed to his father, Emilis Melngailis. Now we have that straight at Cg.com. Also at 365Chess after I sent them the same documentation. They corrected that mixup at their site now as well.
They are all three of them fantastic, great databases don't get me wrong- but they do make mistakes, and where possible, their pgns should be checked before submitting. I have a full Di Felice library (also full of mistakes) which is still a good tool for checking which events games actually came from.
|Jul-02-19|| ||Tabanus: Here a study in creative naming:
4th Karpov It (2003)
5th Karpov It Tournament (2004)
6th Poikovsky Karpov Tournament (2005)
7th Poikovsky Tournament (2006)
8th Poikovsky Karpov Tournament (2007)
Poikovsky Tournament (2008)
10th Karpov Tournament (2009)
Poikovsky Tournament (2010)
12th Karpov International (2011)
13th Karpov International (2012)
14th Karpov International (2013)
15th Poikovsky Karpov Tournament (2014)
16th Poikovsky Karpov Tournament (2015)
17th Karpov Poikovsky (2016)
18th Karpov Poikovsky (2017)
19th Karpov Poikovsky (2018)
<Annie> It's a shame but perhaps you could change these to "Karpov Poikovsky"? As in Karpov Poikovsky (2019).
|Jul-02-19|| ||Retireborn: Who is this Poikovsky bloke and why is he playing Karpov all the time?|
|Jul-02-19|| ||Tabanus: http://poikovsky.dem.ru/poikovo.htm shows it's a place, as you probably know :)|
|Jul-02-19|| ||Tabanus: I need help with Game Collection: Karpov Poikovsky 2002.|
In all the databases I've checked, rounds 8 & 9 are missing. I found Vescovi's two games in Brasilbase, but 8 games are missing.
|Jul-02-19|| ||Annie K.: <Tab> I can go with either the <Karpov Poikovsky> or <Xth Karpov Poikovsky> format, but yeah, we've been on a trend of dropping the "Xth" information from event names. It should hopefully go into the intro instead. :)|
|Jul-02-19|| ||Tabanus: <Annie> I've put the xth into all intros. There'll be a break now, happy holidays! :)|
|Jul-06-19|| ||MissScarlett: For those with access to the <British Newspaper Archive>, you may not have noticed this recent addition:|
<This week we have added 132,230 brand new pages to The Archive. We are delighted to welcome over 100,000 pages to our specialist country pursuits publication Field, which covers an array of topics, such as farming, fishing and country house management. It is a wonderful window into the world of the Victorian country gentleman, and we now have 2,348 issues available to search.>
1853-1856, 1858-1860, 1862-1863, 1865-1868, 1870-1911 [...]
This newspaper is published by TI Media in London, London, England. It was digitised and first made available on the British Newspaper Archive in May 27, 2019 . The latest issues were added in Jul 6, 2019>
Some <Field> columns were already online:
|Jul-06-19|| ||Annie K.: Old news is good news. :)|
|Jul-07-19|| ||Tabanus: Karpov Poikovsky (2000), I find no games. (Also not in Brasilbase, even if Vescovi played)|
Game Collection: Karpov Poikovsky 2001, all 45 games but three different bracket dates. I suppose FIDE + official site are right about 24 April - 4 May and that TWIC + 365Chess is guesswork. But no exact round dates.
Game Collection: Karpov Poikovsky 2002, eight games missing (in rounds 8 & 9). No rest day, which is a little suspect.
So I'm done with Poikovsky, if nothing more turns up.
|Jul-07-19|| ||jessicafischerqueen: |
<Tab> how many games did <Poiksovky> play against <Karpov>, and did he win any amirite.
I tried to use brasilbase once but I couldn't get the hang of it. It took me 6 months to figure out how to do searches on the periodika/lv archive for Latvian newspaper and such.
Thanks to you though I have a full set of Tidskrift von den Schach who are kind enough to offer easy downloads of full sets of their excellent journal.
|Jul-08-19|| ||Tabanus: Happy to help kompis.|
|Jul-09-19|| ||MissScarlett: Bird vs Charles France Smith, 1850|
Correction needed to Charles French Smith.
|Jul-10-19|| ||Tabanus: <Annie> While I'm at it, why not also put up 2018 St Louis Summer Classic A and B. All the games seem to be in CG.|
|Jul-12-19|| ||Tabanus: NB. Two new players on top of the Andorra Open (2017) table. I did not put them there.|
Any other examples?
|Jul-12-19|| ||Tabanus: I fixed it, but how many more are there? It's af if the db slowly crumbles down to a heap of games.|
|Jul-12-19|| ||Annie K.: <Tab> Oh, please. Something must have been done manually to change the crosstable. Either somebody submitted games that got indexed as belonging to the event, or edited the crosstable directly, or some other change was made to one or more games in the event, that triggered a crosstable recalculation. These things were always happening, it's not a new phenomenon, and this hardly calls for such a dramatic announcement. ;)|
I could consider teaching the program to leave voted-in tournaments alone and make absolutely no changes to them, but it wouldn't be practical. For one thing, sometimes events are voted in with missing games, because some of the scores simply can't be found. Then if they somehow turn up, we couldn't add them? Or if we find an error in a game after all, we couldn't change or delete it...? No, it most likely wouldn't be a good idea.
The St Louis Summer Classics have been up for quite a while, all enabled except for homepage mentions, and I don't really think they merit that, given the profusion of much stronger recent events that also need homepage space. We can't let that column get too long.
<All> attention please, lately I've been getting some pgn submissions with empty tags (from more than one submitter) such as:
Please make the effort to fill in the question marks in these tags. This matters to how the game will be parsed. The games were not rejected, because I corrected them, not because this shortcut works. Thanks. :)
|Jul-12-19|| ||Tabanus: <Annie> Perhaps some more games were added to the event after editing, and then not re-edited. It's just that I've seen this happen before several times. I clicked on 10-15 other events now and found no obvious errors so perhaps it's not that bad.|
<The St Louis Summer Classics have been up for quite a while> 2019 yes but not 2018 ;)
|Jul-12-19|| ||Annie K.: Ah, right. I noticed the 2018 at one point, but then I forgot again. :D Can you point me to one game from each section, so I can locate their tids?|
|Jul-13-19|| ||Tabanus: Sure, A Indjic vs Akobian, 2018 from the A section and K Dragun vs D Saduakassova, 2018 from B.|
I was hoping to avoid the 1 by 1 adding + promotion process :)
|Jul-13-19|| ||Tabanus: <Annie> Sigeman & Co (2006) cannot be edited because of the banner.|
|Jul-14-19|| ||jessicafischerqueen: |
<Annie> We have several decent photographs of old Latvian players eh? They come from Latvian newspapers mainly. Some are from Latvian wikipedia pages.
How might a photo be submitted for consideration?
|Jul-14-19|| ||MissScarlett: You may notice I submitted a game <Pillsbury vs Allies> twice - both with the same score, but use the second one, because its source tag is correct.|
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