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|Jun-19-12|| ||twinlark: <KKDEREK>
<I think got <way> worse IMHO, with lots of garbage from his fanatics who thinks everything is relevant.>
Very little of what was in the bio was suggested by his fans. There was a bit about his blitz record and that's about it. The responsibility for all of it is mine, and I believe i addressed your concerns on the You Know Who Page soon after you made your points.
A few people dislike the amount of extra information that I put into some bios, with one well known kibitzer fretting about how it takes him longer to scroll to the kibitzer's field, but generally the reception for the longer bios seems positive.
|Jun-19-12|| ||achieve: <twinlark> I'm on it; there's a goldmine of information outthere, including a recently published Biography of Timman, that I haven't read yet: De Geest van het Spel (The Spirit of the Game)|
I'll be getting it from the bookstore and will in the process draft a nice Bio for <Jan Hendrik Timman>.
|Jun-19-12|| ||twinlark: <achieve>
That's great. Don't rush it. Enjoy the book and put his story together leisurely. I'll do some myself and combine the two.
|Jun-19-12|| ||achieve: capisce -- "leisurely" will be my middle name.|
|Jun-21-12|| ||shivasuri4: Could someone please add the fact that Humpy lost to Hou in the fight for the world championship title last year, in Humpy's biography?|
|Jun-21-12|| ||voratco: <KKDEREK: Well, <twinlark> Im not complaining about Carlsen bio at all. I was being ironic "you know why". Actually I think all players biographies should be somewhat uniform (as most as possible), with just the relevant facts IMHO. This is not what I saw on "you know who" changes bio. As you stated, it got not "very reader friendly". I think got <way> worse IMHO, with lots of garbage from his fanatics who thinks everything is relevant. Sorry, just my opinion, not offend intended, and I should stated that before, and Im sorry. Of course I and all CG's members (or not) should be very thankfully for your kindly help and support and work to do such a tough task by yourself.>|
Yup, you are certainly really really sorry, alright. Before making such remarks, show what you can do best by starting to appreciate others' hard work without taking your preference/s into consideration. When will you ever learn????
|Jun-22-12|| ||alexmagnus: Did my question go down in discussion or am I the only one willing to collect the circumstances and aftermath of champions' last games?|
|Jun-22-12|| ||Call Me TC: Seems rather morbid.|
|Jun-22-12|| ||Benzol: <alex> The Games of Tigran Petrosian Vol 2 gives Ulf Andersson vs Petrosian, 1983 as the last game that the 9th WC played.|
|Jun-22-12|| ||Benzol: Spassky vs Botvinnik, 1970 would appear to be the last official game Botvinnik played.|
|Jun-22-12|| ||Benzol: Lasker vs Marshall, 1940 seems to be Lasker's last game.|
|Jun-22-12|| ||Call Me TC: Yep, when iron-willed Botvinnik retired, he stayed retired. He spent the next 30+ years working on a computer that never beat anyone able to tell a rook from a bishop.|
|Jun-22-12|| ||Benzol: Steinitz last game in his last official tournament seems to be Janowski vs Steinitz, 1899|
He died the following year in poverty in an asylum in New York.
Lasker died in 1941 some months after the Marshall game.
Botvinnik retired in 1970 although his work in his Chess School continued long after with pupils like Kasparov.
Petrosian died in 1984 from cancer.
|Jun-22-12|| ||Benzol: Capablanca died after a stroke in 1942 but his last official game played on the 18th of September 1939 I believe was Capablanca vs Trompowsky, 1939|
|Jun-22-12|| ||Benzol: Alyekhin's last official game played at Estoril on the 9th of January 1946 was F Lupi vs Alekhine, 1946|
On the night of the 23rd of March he passed away after a heart attack.
|Jun-22-12|| ||Phony Benoni: Alekhine's last event was a four-game match in early 1946. The last game was F Lupi vs Alekhine, 1946.|
It could be argued that the Emanuel Lasker - Marshall match was an exhibition, and his last serious game was the final round at Nottingham, 1936, which would be Lasker vs C H Alexander, 1936. I like the idea because, like Steinitz, Capablanca, and Alekhine, he would close out with a win, but that is probably a losing argument.
|Jun-22-12|| ||Benzol: <Phony Benoni> Dave do know about Smyslov and Euwe. What were their last official games?|
|Jun-22-12|| ||Call Me TC: Steinitz, Lasker and Capa all died in the Big Apple. To lose one world champion may be regarded as a misfortune...|
|Jun-22-12|| ||Petrosianic: I guess the moral is "Stay Away From Central Park".|
|Jun-22-12|| ||Petrosianic: Somewhere I have a .pgn of the last games of all the world champions, as near as I could determine them at the time. I don't remember getting any different answers than you have.|
|Jun-22-12|| ||Call Me TC: <Somewhere I have a .pgn of the last games of all the world champions...>|
|Jun-22-12|| ||Phony Benoni: <Benzol> The early champions are easy because their lives and games are so well researched and documented. With more recent players like Smyslov and Euwe, we run across the problems of incomplete game collections and lack of information.|
Smyslov seems fairly clear, at least according to our database: Smyslov vs Zhu Chen, 2001. Fortunately, we seem to have all the games from that tournament, with round numbers.
Euwe needs more research. We have two games from 1981: Euwe vs T Broek, 1981 is dated February 8th, but R Moonen vs Euwe, 1981 is undated. And I wouldn't be surprised if there are other Euwe games from his last year which we don't have yet.
Fischer is surely the last game of the 2nd Spassky match, Spassky vs Fischer, 1992. I wouldn't count anything after that.
|Jun-22-12|| ||Petrosianic: <Why?>
No idea. If I'd thought to ask myself that question, I might never have made it. I assume I was bored that day, but who knows?
|Jun-22-12|| ||sneaky pete: <Benzol> I checked some old magazines searching for Euwe's last game. The Moonen game was played in April or May in the last round of the club competition (Euwe played for Volmac Rotterdam), so that's the last game we have at the moment. However, on Euwe's page <achieve> posted (May 20) a club game against Tom De Ruiter played on July 2, which he also uploaded, so we may see it here soon.|
In 1981 Euwe was also engaged in the Dutch correspondence chess championship, which started in 1980. Before he died, he finished 7 from his 14 games in that event.
|Jun-22-12|| ||alexmagnus: <Steinitz, Lasker and Capa all died in the Big Apple.>|
Lasker and Capa actually died in the same hospital :)
<Phony Benoni> and <Benzol> Thanks for the research! So, now only Euwe is missing...
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