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|Aug-13-12|| ||TheFocus: <Phony> I did have the name Ojars. I must have gotten it from Donaldson's <Legend on the Road>.|
|Aug-14-12|| ||Stonehenge: Does anyone know if this chap is Robert B. Griffith: R B Griffith|
|Aug-14-12|| ||FSR: <Stonehenge> It seems very likely. Note these two entries from the same article by Bill Wall:|
<In June 1921, Sammy Reshevsky (Rzeschewski) (1911-1992), age 9, gave a 20-board simul at the Los Angeles Athletic Club and met several Hollywood stars such as Charlie Chaplin (1899-1977) and 5-year-old Jackie Coogan (1914-1984) at the simul. ... The only person to beat Reshevsky in the 20-board simul was Dr. Robert B. Griffith (1876-1937), a physician for the film industry in Hollywood.>
<On May 30, 1937, Herman Steiner was on his way back to Hollywood from the annual North-South chess match when he hit a car head-on. Steiners passenger was Dr. R.B. Griffith, who played Board 2 for the South (Steiner played Board 1). Griffith died in the car crash and the driver in the other car was critically injured. Dr. Griffith was a medical doctor for the Hollywood film industry. He was the physician for Mary Pickford and Charlie Chaplin.> http://www.chessville.com/BillWall/...
|Aug-14-12|| ||crawfb5: <Stonehenge> It's almost certainly Robert B. Griffith. The two simultaneous games with Pillsbury (only one is in CG's database) were played in Philadelphia according to Pope's book on Pillsbury.|
Hilbert's bio of Walter Penn Shipley says Griffith was from Iowa, presumably in Philadelphia to attend medical school at the University of Pennsylvania, and lived for many years in California. He died in 1937 in an automobile accident as a passenger in a car driven by Herman Steiner.
|Aug-14-12|| ||Stonehenge: Thanks to both of you, and such quick replies :)|
|Aug-15-12|| ||GrahamClayton: Here is a list of some of the players for whom I have submitted correction slips to have their full names added to the database:|
Giustina Orestes J Giustina
Bensadon Rafael Bensadon
Loynaz Sady Loynaz Paez
Fernsler John J Fernsler
Roehlk Kai Roehlk
Driman Samuel Driman
E Wadling Eskil Wadling
De Cossio Jose M De Cossio
A Lockett Jr Andrew M Lockert Jr
GR Lamperter George R Lamperter
I have also requested for the following games to be merged.
Hazefjus - Wolfgang R Hasenfuss
Khavin - Abram Leonidivich Khavin
|Aug-16-12|| ||Phony Benoni: I'd like to get a consensus on something here. London 1883 and New York 1889 were tournaments in which draws were replayed. These are candidates for expanding the round field, and I'm thinking of something like this|
1.1: original game
1.2: first replay
1.3: second replay
Now suppose the original game was decisive, and no replays were needed. It seems to me that such a game should still have "1.1" for the round, just to be consistent. Does that sound reasonable?
|Aug-16-12|| ||GrahamClayton: <Phony Benoni>Now suppose the original game was decisive, and no replays were needed. It seems to me that such a game should still have "1.1" for the round, just to be consistent. Does that sound reasonable?|
That sounds pretty reasonable to me.
|Aug-16-12|| ||Benzol: <Phony Benoni> Dave it sounds a reasonable idea but I wonder what <chessgames> themselves think about it?|
BTW Game Collection: Karlsbad 1923 has now been updated.
|Aug-16-12|| ||Benzol: <Phony Benoni> Thanks Dave. I'm glad you've updated Karlsbad 1911, it was a bit daunting to think about doing 13 games in every round of that tourney.|
I've just started to update <Archives> Vienna 1922 collection and I'll notify here when I get it finished. I'm just wondering what other tournaments would everyone like to see updated soonest?
|Aug-16-12|| ||Phony Benoni: <Benzol> <chessgames> has stated they approve of using one decimal point in the round number where useful, but didn't go into details. I was sort of hoping they'd pop in here with an opinion, but I may have to visit their place.|
Long tournaments fascinate me. I should probably do Vienna 1898 as well, especially since Peter has the dates in the collection. Speaking of Karlsbad 1911, I compiled a list of cumulative scores while I was at it. Would you believe that after six rounds, Charles Jaffe was in sole possession of second place?
<GrahamClayton> Looks like the <CG Librarian> has already responded to most of your suggestions. Corrections are going much more smoothly now that the backlog has been thinned out.
|Aug-16-12|| ||Blunderdome: <tournaments in which draws were replayed.>|
I'd also like to see such games either have a not on the first move stating that the game was a replay, or have the game type read "CLASSICAL - REPLAY" or some such thing. A link to the original game would be nice too, even if such can already be found in the kibitzing.
|Aug-16-12|| ||Blunderdome: <a not>
Or better still, a <note>.
|Aug-16-12|| ||wwall: I believe this is the grave site of Dr. RB Griffith (Robert B Griffith) the chess player and the same guy in my article.|
|Aug-16-12|| ||Phony Benoni: <Blunderdome> I doubt we would want to get so specific about the Game Type, since there are too many outside factors that could influence the course of a game. A note might work better, especially for those who don't know about the replay rule for that tournament.|
However, expanding the "round" tag is mentioned in the standard instructions for PGN, given here: http://www.tim-mann.org/Standard. The fact that it sometimes seems nobody follows this doesn't make it any less a standard.
"22.214.171.124: The Round tag
The Round tag value gives the playing round for the game. In a match
competition, this value is the number of the game played. If the use of a
round number is inappropriate, then the field should be a single hyphen
character. If the round is unknown, a single question mark should appear as
the tag value.
<Some organizers employ unusual round designations and have multipart playing
rounds and sometimes even have conditional rounds. In these cases, a multipart round identifier can be made from a sequence of integer round numbers separated by periods. The leftmost integer represents the most significant round and succeeding integers represent round numbers in descending hierarchical order.>
Note that, if this were followed literally, we should use
for simuls and offhand games. Note too that there is no distinction between what the levels in the hierarchy of rounds means; <"1.1"> could mean round 1, board 1 of a Swiss System tournament, board one of the first round of a team match, and so on.
So if I do a tournament with replays, I'm going to use the "1.1", "1.2", etc. It seems intended to be a standard usage, and that's important for the consistent exchange of information.
|Aug-16-12|| ||Calli: <other tournaments would everyone like to see updated soonest?>|
What I would like to see is an actual tournament page. :-o
|Aug-16-12|| ||Phony Benoni: <Calli> Amen to that. But anyone who has been around here long enough knows that the best intentions often take a long time to implement. For now, I fear we'll have to find satisfaction in doing Good Works.|
|Aug-16-12|| ||Calli: Lastest tournament eBook find is Amsterdam 1899. Never knew a book existed for that event. See Game Collection: Chess Tournament eBooks for link.|
|Aug-16-12|| ||Phony Benoni: Atkins must have thought it was the British Championship.|
|Aug-16-12|| ||GrahamClayton: Here are some more players for whom I have made correction suggestions to have their full name listed:|
Artiunov Kirkor Artiunov
Sereda Viktor Sereda
A Pirtskhalava - Akaki Pirtskhalava
Palavandishvili - Alexander Georgievich Palavandishvili
Tsintsadze Viacheslav Tsintsadze Sr
Lieske Holger Lieske
H Trevenen Henry Vickers White Trevenen
RO Scott Robert O Scott
|Aug-17-12|| ||twinlark: I've made a fairly adventurous attempt at upgrading the bio of the late Svetozar Gligoric as a lasting tribute for the great man. I'm acutely aware of the gaps in the historical record that I've gleaned, such as his tournament wins and the books he's authored, so if anyone can assist with correcting errors, filling in gaps and any other critiques, I'd be grateful.|
|Aug-17-12|| ||Karpova: I have a question regarding these two players:
Hans Von Minckwitz
Johannes von Minckwitz
Hans died after having been run over by a train. His fate is told in Johannes' biography also. This is puzzling, as Johannes is the name of Hans' father. So do we have father and son here and what about the games they played - do most of them have to be assigned to Hans?
|Aug-17-12|| ||sneaky pete: <Karpova> It's obviously the same player. Hans is short for Johannes, as is Fritz for Friedrich, Pim for Willem and Kate for Bob.|
|Aug-17-12|| ||Benzol: Game Collection: Vienna 1922 has now been updated.|
|Aug-18-12|| ||Benzol: Game Collection: The Hague 1921 has also been updated.|
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