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|Jan-06-13|| ||crawfb5: The 4th ICCF WC has a crosstable, but is awaiting one submitted game to be processed before I nominate it. In the meantime, does anybody have anything to add to the introduction? I've not found a lot on it.|
|Jan-06-13|| ||TheFocus: <crawfb5> Great that you have gotten 1-4 of ICCF WC completed and in the Historical Pages.|
I said that I would do 5th and 6th, but I am busy with the Fischer era US Championships, so could you guys continue with the ICCF WC's?.
|Jan-06-13|| ||crawfb5: <TF> I haven't nominated WC4 yet, as I am waiting for one game to be processed.|
I already have one in progress on WC5, so that was the 6th and 7th, not the 5th and 6th. No matter, I will start one on WC6 and whoever gets to WC7 first gets there first.
|Jan-06-13|| ||twinlark: Hi guys
Here's a query: the Petrosian Memorial (2004) doesn't seem to be the same Petrosian Memorial 2004 reported to FIDE here: http://ratings.fide.com/tournament_...
As you can see, different field of players altogether.
Anyone know whether there was an A and a B tournament or what the story is here?
|Jan-06-13|| ||Tabanus: <twinlark> There were at least three Petrosian memorials in 2004. The Petrosian Memorial (2004) was in March 2004 in Stepanakert (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan...). The http://ratings.fide.com/tournament_... was played 9-15 June in Moscow (http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail...). There was also a Petrosian memorial sceduled for Armenia in November.|
|Jan-06-13|| ||crawfb5: There was also a team internet Petrosian Memorial in 2004:|
|Jan-06-13|| ||twinlark: Thanks! I wonder why so many in the same year?
I discovered that the Petrosian Memorial 2004 reported in FIDE was a 6 round team match between the Rest of the World and an Armenian team (kind of, Kasparov and Gelfand were on it too presumably as the former was born there, although I'm not sure of the latter's connection).
|Jan-06-13|| ||crawfb5: 2004 was the 75th anniversary of Petrosian's birth (1929).|
|Jan-06-13|| ||crawfb5: In the ICCF crosstable for the 6th WC, John Bertil Ljungdahl is spelled <Ljungdhal>. Anyone know which one is the typo? I'm guessing the ICCF crosstable.|
|Jan-06-13|| ||Benzol: <crawfb5> Tim Harding has it as Ljungdahl.|
|Jan-06-13|| ||twinlark: I found a Chessbase article that explains all.
Kasparov's Armenian connection was that his mother was Armenian (he was actually born in Azerbaijan...my bad), Leko married Sophie, who is Ashok Petrosian's daughter, and Gelfand was the top student in Petrosian's school back in the day.
|Jan-06-13|| ||Phony Benoni: I'll be returning to work tomorrow (you know, the kind that pays) after a three-week holiday. This will cut my time down around here to a measly 16 hours a day instead of 24.|
Just didn't want you to think I was sick or something.
|Jan-06-13|| ||WannaBe: You are FIRED!|
|Jan-07-13|| ||Tabanus: <crawfb5> I'm Scandinavian, definately Ljungdahl.|
|Jan-07-13|| ||crawfb5: <Tanabus> <Benzol> Thanks. I thought so, but it never hurts to ask.|
|Jan-07-13|| ||crawfb5: We had all the games for the 6th CC WC final, so it is now nominated. There's a crosstable, but I didn't find much information for the intro, so if anyone has anything to add, we could put it in later, I suppose.|
I will nominate the 4th and 5th when the games I submitted have been processed. I suppose I will start collecting games for the 7th, assuming no one else would like to do it.
|Jan-07-13|| ||TheFocus: Attention Bobby Fischer fans!
In the big three books on Fischer (Wade, Hays, and Mueller) - the dates for the games in several tournaments do not appear: <U.S. Championship 1958/59>, <Santiago 1959>, <Zurich 1959>, <U.S. Championship 1965/66>, <U.S. Championship 1966/67> and <Skopje 1967>. They do not appear in <Chess Life> or <Chess Review>.
I have discovered all the dates and will be inputting them as soon as possible.
Thank God for the Internet which made this task easier!!
|Jan-07-13|| ||Phony Benoni: <TheFocus> Thank goodness for that! Our list of ready collections is getting thin.|
|Jan-08-13|| ||TheFocus: Egg Face Time: I looked at the McFarland bio of Sammy Reshevsky last night and discovered that Gordon had the dates for <U.S. Championship 1965/66> and <1966/67>. There are a couple of differences from <NYTimes>, but I think that Sammy's games had different dates because they were scheduled for the Sabbath. I will go with <NYTimes> in the collection.|
Drat! Just when you think you have stumbled onto something new and exciting and unknown, you see someone sitting by the roadside with an I-got-here-first look on their face.
Big kudos to Gordon.
|Jan-08-13|| ||Phony Benoni: In their forum, <cg> has requested we not push through any tournaments after 2000. This means that any tournament listed in Game Collection: Historical Tournaments 1: Fully Updated should be ignored for now.|
That also exhausts the store of updated tournaments we had built up over the last few months. What we'll be working on now will be newly built collections, or updates to unfinished collections (see lists 2-4). This will mean some serious research, usually to find dates, and also that our pace of submission will slow down. Having done over 300 tournaments in a couple of months, I think we have something to be proud of!
I've gone through the list of tournaments in <Benzol>'s profile, and checked out collections of other members he has mentioned there. I haven't examined some of the more active <Bistroids>, figuring you can handle that. As for myself, I've submitted everything except the US Opens, and some of those may be coming soon. I also plan to work more on Hastings. (See Game Collection: US Open Index Collection and Game Collection: Hastings Christmas Congress (Tournament Index).)
|Jan-08-13|| ||TheFocus: <Phony> In light of the scarcity of new tournaments, may I suggest that when one nominates a new collection, an announcement be made here by the nominator?|
Of course, checking daily at Game Collection Voting should still be done, but a heads up to everyone may be helpful.
|Jan-08-13|| ||Phony Benoni: <TheFocus> I don't know if that exact action is necessary, but don't see a problem with doing it. Certainly anything that keeps the group communicating and in touch with each others' activities is a good idea.|
For the record, my next couple of projects will be:
1) Redoing Game Collection: US Championship 1991. I have tournament bulletins which contain information unavailable to <suenteus po 147>, and it will be easier to make the corrections and additions now.
2) I found a file of Botvinnik's games with dates, so I will be able to update several of the USSR Championships.
|Jan-08-13|| ||twinlark: You might have already seen this site, or already have all the information it contains, but I stumbled across a Dutch site (written up in English) which has a zip file with the PGNs of 210 "super tournaments" and many pgn files.|
Just in case it's useful: http://www.endgame.nl/super.htm
|Jan-08-13|| ||Phony Benoni: <twinlark> Thanks for the link, but unfortunately it looks like there are only selected games from the tournaments. A few do have dates, and may be useful in that respect.|
|Jan-08-13|| ||Benzol: I'm sorry guys I didn't realize that Gligoric vs Kaplan, 1972 was missing from the 1972 San Antonio tourney. Can I take it as read that someone has submitted the correction to update it?|
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