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MOVES:
1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 e6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 a6 5.Bd3 Bc5 6.Nb3 Be7 7.Qg4 g6 8.Qe2 d6 9.O-O Nd7 10.a4 Ne5 11.a5 Nf6 12.Be3 O-O 13.Nc3 Bd7 14.f4 Nxd3 15.cxd3 Bc6 16.f5 exf5 17.exf5 Qd7 18.Qd2 Rfe8 19.Bb6 Ng4 20.Nd4 Bf8 21.Qf4 Ne5 22.Nxc6 bxc6 23.d4 Nd3 24.Qd2 Nb4 25.Rf3 Nd5 26.Nxd5 cxd5 27.Raf1 Rac8 28.h3 Bg7 29.Kh2 Qb5 30.fxg6 fxg6 31.Qg5 Re4 32.Bd8 Re6 33.Bf6 Rf8 34.Bxg7 Rxf3 35.Rxf3 Kxg7 36.b4 h5 37.Qd8 Qe8 38.Qb6 Qc8 39.b5 axb5 40.a6 Re1 41.Qb7+ 1-0
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Jul-17-08  Karpova: <Hugin>
See themadhair chessforum (Dec-04-06 already has some discussion but the forum was designated to this move on Dec-05-06) for the discussion on this move. The continuation you chose for white (33.Bf6) was considered a weak option, 33.Rf7 being considered the best (and 33.Kh1 still better than 33.Bf6).
Aug-11-08  Dionyseus: I thought it would be interesting to see how new technology views this 2006 game, so I performed over 15 hours of analysis with Aquarium's IDeA using the new Rybka 3 engine on white's 19th move, which happens to be one of the most memorable moments for me for this game.

For those who are not familiar with Aquarium's IDeA mode, I reccommend this page: http://chessok.com/?p=518

In the tree that Aquarium created, 19.Bg5 was first with +0.26, 19.Bb6 was second with +0.18, and 19.Bd4 was third with +0.11.

Here are the two main lines created by Aquarium:

1) 19.Bg5 Nh5 20.Nd4 d5 21.Kh1 Qd6 22.Bxe7 Qxe7 23.Qf2 g5 24.f6 Qe3 25.Qf5 Qe5 26.Qxe5 Rxe5 27.Nf3


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Analysis by Rybka 3:
27... Re6 28. Nxg5 Rxf6 29. Kg1 Re8 30. Rxf6 Nxf6 31. Nf3 Kg7 32. Re1 Rxe1+ 33. Nxe1 Kf8 34. h3 Ke7 35. Kf2 Kd6 36. d4 Ne8 37. Nc2 Ke6 +0.32 depth=19

2) 19.Bb6 Ng4 20.Nd4 Bf8 21.Qf4 Ne5 22.Qg3 d5 23.Rae1 Bd6 24.fxg6 fxg6 25.Nf5 Nf7 26.Nxd6 Nxd6 27.Qf4


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analysis by Rybka 3:
27... Rxe1 28. Rxe1 Rf8 29. Qd4 Nf5 30. Qe5 Qf7 31. Qf4 Ng7 32. Qxf7+ Kxf7 33. Rf1+ Kg8 34. Rxf8+ Kxf8 35. Kf2 Kf7 36. b4 Nf5 +0.13 depth=21

Aug-11-08  classF: <Dionyseus> during the game, Rybka recommended Bg5 three times, on moves 12, 18 and 19, none of which the team followed.

<RV Oct-23-06:

1. (0.30): 19.Bg5 Qd8 20.Nd4 Nd7 21.h4 d5

2. (0.19): 19.Bb6 Ng4 20.Nd4 Bf8 21.Qf4 Ne5 22.Nxc6 bxc6 23.d4 Nd3 24.Qd2 Nb4 25.Rf3>

Aug-12-08  Dionyseus: <classF> Yes at that time I was one of the major supporters for 19.Bb6. In retrospect 19.Bg5 might have been a win for us as well, and perhaps was the stronger move.
Aug-28-08  RookFile: Well, you're only throwing red meat in front of me. You can go back to the game, and look at page after page where I pleaded for Bg5 at those times.

In fact, as part of the 'objective' analysis that went on, in one case, I analyzed Bg5 followed by Qd2, and observed that it was promising. Certain individuals, in writing up a summary, gave some bogus analysis, in dismissing this. Now - here's the interesting thing. These guys advocated Qd2, and in one subline, Bg5. In other words, this lead to the <exact same position> that I was analyzing - but this time, they had all kinds of analysis to say that White was better.

So, I went to bed one night, with Bg5 safely in the lead, and woke up the next morning to read this nonsense, but the voting had been done over night, and there was no changing it.

It all turned out happily ever after anyway, of course.

Sep-19-08  A. Anderssen: Can anyone analyse the game?
Sep-20-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  whiteshark: <A. Anderssen> I kind of like this, it's 'let sb. else do the work'.
Sep-20-08  Aspirador: <Can anyone analyse the game?> LOL, I guess this is an intentional joke.

Did you notice that we are on page 1066 of the thread?

Sep-25-08  Ragh: If not intended in jest, then what <A. Anderssen> probably means is that he wants a condensed version of entire 1066 pages into a "single post" analysis of the game or something like that.
Oct-03-08  Super Chess Man: Hey, but right now there is another Arno Nickel we are playing ! Do you think they are the same person, maybe ?
Oct-08-08  A. Anderssen: Super Chess Man: Hey, but right now there is another Arno Nickel we are playing ! Do you think they are the same person, maybe ?

Yes, he is the same person.

Nov-20-08  Nietzowitsch: <A. Anderssen> After this crushing defeat Arno Nickel wasn't the same as before, just a mere shadow of his former self. So how can you say <he is the same person>? This is very frivolous of you!
Jan-05-09  WhiteRook48: passed pawn!! wow!!
Jan-24-09  WhiteRook48: let's analyze this game
1. e4!! c5!! those are good so I'll get carried away and give two exclams
Jan-25-09  WhiteRook48: 2. Nf3?! e6?! Ok, these annotations were made by a patzer
Feb-01-09  WhiteRook48: 3 d4 cxd4 4 Nxd4 are okay
Feb-07-09  WhiteRook48: amazing posting on page 986
Feb-14-09  WhiteRook48: I think 40...Re1 is dubious. I would have preferred 40...Re7, but then 41. a7 is decisive anyway
Feb-15-09  WhiteRook48: 4...a6.
Hmmm. This looks odd, but that's probably because I don't have a good sense of openings
Feb-21-09  WhiteRook48: <A. Anderssen> hilarious
May-05-09  hidude: The World :)
Jun-07-09
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  Domdaniel: <WhiteRook48> This was a regular Sicilian Kan line up to move 8 or 9, then a known but slightly offbeat variation to about move 14. The next couple of moves had been seen in published analysis by Lutz (of which both sides were aware) -- but never tried in a significant game. After that we were on our own.

If you don't have a good sense of openings to the extent that an early ...a6 in the Sicilian surprises you, I suggest you either (a) avoid the Sicilian, or (b) play through more games in this line.

Oct-22-10  Titicamara: Real good game
Dec-12-11  Penguincw: How can that rook still be dancing? It's been dancing for nearly 5 years.
Jan-05-12  Penguincw: I believe it's over 5 years now!
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