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MOVES:
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Ng5 Bc5 5.Bxf7+ Ke7 6.Bc4 Rf8 7.O-O Qe8 8.b4 Bxb4 9.c3 Ba5 10.d4 d6 11.f4 Bb6 12.Kh1 exd4 13.e5 Ng4 14.exd6+ cxd6 15.h3 Ne3 16.Re1 Kd7 17.Bxe3 dxe3 18.Na3 Qe7 19.Nb5 h6 20.Ne6 Rf6 21.Nbc7 Bxc7 22.Rxe3 Bb6 23.Re1 g6 24.Rb1 Rxe6 25.Bxe6+ Qxe6 26.Rxe6 Kxe6 27.f5+ gxf5 28.Qh5 Ke7 29.Qxh6 Be6 30.Qg7+ Bf7 31.Rf1 Rg8 32.Qh7 Ne5 33.Rxf5 Rf8 34.h4 Rc8 35.Qg7 Rc4 36.g4 Ke8 37.h5 Re4 38.h6 Re1+ 39.Kh2 Re2+ 40.Kg3 Re3+ 41.Kg2 Bd5+ 42.Kf1 Bc4+ 43.Kf2 Rxc3+ 44.Ke1 Nf3+ 45.Kd1 Rd3+ 46.Kc1 Be3+ 47.Kb1 Rd1+ 48.Kc2 Rc1+ 49.Kb2 Bd4+ 50.Qxd4 Nxd4 51.Kxc1 Bg8 52.Rf6 Ke7 53.Rg6 Kf8 54.Rxd6 Ne6 55.h7 1-0
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Kibitzer's Corner
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Jun-10-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  perfidious: <AK>, yew mean yew <don't> think yer stuff is the red-hawt gawspel?

In all seriousness, actually I respect your willingness to admit error, those times you are mistaken, as well as your openness to others' points of view.

Jun-10-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  kwid: <AylerKupp: <kwid> Thanks for taking a closer look.>

<With a 2 pawn advantage White’s chances look reasonable for a win, notwithstanding the BOC. So, again, I think that Stockfish’s evaluation is reasonable if not a little low>

Yes but my line with Nc4 gives b5 in reply to Na3 which seem to securely holds a draw at best play from white and not Nxa3 as your line shows.

Jun-11-18  Nickster: The 9... h6 line. 10.Bf7.


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The <fabulous line>. Nice find actually. Kudos to <AylerKupp>.

10...Rxf7 11.Nxf7 Ba5 12.Nxe5 Nxe5 13.d4 Nc4.


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14.Na3 b5 we are following <kwid>'s line.

15.Nxc4 bxc4 16.Qa4 Bb6 17.e5 Nd5 18.Qxc4 Bb7 19.Qd3 Qf7


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Well so far these look like the best moves. A key position I think.

20.c4 Nb4 21.Ba3 a5 22.d5


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Analysis by Stockfish 9 64: Depth=45

1. ± (0.85): 22...Bc5 23.Qe4 c6 24.d6+ Kf8 25.Bb2 Kg8 26.a3

2. ± (0.87): 22...Rf8 23.Bxb4+ axb4 24.a3 Qf5 25.Qg3 Qg5 26.axb

3. ± (0.94): 22...Qf4 23.Rae1 Rf8 24.Bxb4+ axb4 25.a3 Bxf2+

4. ± (1.12): 22...Ba6 23.Rac1 Bc5 24.Qg3 Kd8 25.e6 Qf6 26.Qg4

5. ± (1.18): 22...Re8 23.Bxb4+ axb4 24.a3 bxa3 25.e6 Qf4 26.exd7

Following these lines it looks like Black has a very difficult defence.

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- 22...Bc5 23.Qe4 c6 24.d6 Kf8 25.Bb2 Kg8 (25...Ba6 26.a3 Bxc4 27.axb4 Bxf1 28 bxc5 Bc4 29.f4) 26.a3 Na6 27.Kh1 Ba7 (27...Bb6 28.f4 Nc5 29.Qc2) 28.f4 Nc5 29.Qc2 Ba6 30.Rac1 Rb8 31.Bd4 Re8 32.Bg1

- 22...Rf8 23.Bxb4+ axb4 24.a3 Qf5 25.Qg3 Kf7 (25...Qg5 26.axb4 Bd4 27.Rae1) 26.e6+ dxe6 27.c5 Bxc5 28.Qxc7+ Kg8 29.Qxc5b3 30.Qc3 Ba6 31.Qxb3 Bxf1 32.Rxf1 exd5

- 22...Qf4 23.Rae1 Rf8 24.Bxb4+ axb4 25.a3 Bxf2+ 26.Kh1 Bxd1 27.Rxf4 Rxf4 28.g3 Rg4 29.Qe2

Conclusion : Black needs to find improvements.

Jun-11-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  kwid: <Nickster: The 9... h6 line. 10.Bf7.>

Well I thought that this line should be ok for black. Thus I went over your line quickly and here is my finding:

9. c3 h6 10. Bf7 Rxf7 11. Nxf7 Ba5 12. Nxe5 Nxe5 13. d4 Nc4 14. Na3 b5 15. Nxc4 bxc4 16. Qa4 Bb6 17. e5 Nd5 18. Qxc4 Bb7 19. Qd3 Qf7 20. c4 Nb4 21. Ba3 a5 22. d5 Rf8 23. Bxb4+

(23. Qg3 g5 24. Rad1 Qf4 25. Qc3 Bc5 26. Bc1 Nxa2 27. Qxa5 Qxc4)

23... axb4 24. a3 Qf5 25. Qg3 Kf7 26. e6+ dxe6 27. c5 Bxc5 28. Qxc7+ Kg8 29. Qxb7

(29. Qxc5 b3 30. f3 Rc8 31. Qd4 Bxd5 32. Rac1 Rb8 33. Qb2 Ra8 34. Rfd1 Qf8 35. Ra1 Ra4 36. Kh1 Qe7 37. Rd4 Qf6 38. Rd2 Qxb2 39. Rxb2 Kf8 40. Kg1 Ke7 41. Kf1 Kd6 42. Ke2 Kc5 43. Kd3 Kb5)


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29... bxa3 30. dxe6 Qxe6 31. Qb1 Ra8 32. Qc1 Bf8 33. Re1 Qf5 34. Qc4+ Qf7 35. Qc2 Ra5 36. Re3 Rc5 37. Qb1 Rf5 38. Ra2 Rd5 39. g3 h5 40. Qb3 g5 41. Rf3 Rf5 42. Qxf7+ Rxf7 43. Rb3 Rf5 44. Kf1 Re5


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Now I wonder if < RV > has a line or summary of his findings for us.

Jun-11-18  Nickster: <kwid: <Nickster: The 9... h6 line. 10.Bf7.> Well I thought that this line should be ok for black. Thus I went over your line quickly and here is my finding:

9. c3 h6 10. Bf7 Rxf7 11. Nxf7 Ba5 12. Nxe5 Nxe5 13. d4 Nc4 14. Na3 b5 15. Nxc4 bxc4 16. Qa4 Bb6 17. e5 Nd5 18. Qxc4 Bb7 19. Qd3 Qf7 20. c4 Nb4 21. Ba3 a5 22. d5 Rf8 23. Bxb4+ axb4 24. a3 Qf5 25. Qg3 Kf7 26. e6+ dxe6 27. c5 Bxc5 28. Qxc7+ Kg8 29. Qxb7 bxa3>

Coincidentally this is exactly the position I'm running my computer at this moment:


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Analysis by Stockfish 9 64: Depth=38

1. +- (1.61): 30.Rad1 Qf7 31.Qxf7+ Kxf7 32.dxe6+ Kf6 33.Rc1 Be7 34.Rfe1 Ra8 35.Kf1 Bd6 36.Re2 g5 37.Rcc2 Ra6 38.g3 h5 39.f3 Ra5 40.Ra2

2. ± (1.40): 30.dxe6 Qxe6 31.Qb5 Rf5 32.Qb1 Bf8 33.Ra2 Rd5 34.Rc1 h5 35.Qb3 Re5 36.Qxe6+ Rxe6 37.h4 Ra6 38.Kf1 Kf7 39.g3 Ke6 40.Rc3 Ke5

Stockfish is optimistic. I have not looked at this <30.Rad1> in any detail yet. I'll know more by tomorrow. I'll let it run a little deeper. The evaluation may change.

Jun-11-18  Nickster: After <30.Rad1> stockfish gives:


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Analysis by Stockfish 9 64: Depth=48

1. +- (1.72): 30...Qf7 31.Qxf7+ Kxf7 32.dxe6+ Kf6 33.Rc1 Be7 34.Rfe1 Ra8 35.Kf1 Bb4 36.Re2 g5 37.g3 Bd6

2. +- (1.77): 30...exd5 31.Qxd5+ Kh7 32.g3 Bb6 33.Qa2 Kh8 34.Rd2 Bc5 35.Rc1 Be7 36.Re2 Bc5 37.Rcc2 Ra8

3. +- (1.85): 30...Bxf2+ 31.Kh1 exd5 32.Qa6 Qe5 33.Qxa3 Rf4 34.Qa8+ Kh7 35.Qxd5 Qxd5 36.Rxd5 Rc4 37.Rd7

4. +- (2.01): 30...Qh5 31.dxe6 Rxf2 32.Kh1 Rxf1+ 33.Rxf1 Qe5 34.Qb5 Kh7 35.Rc1 a2 36.Qd3+ Kg8 37.e7 Bxe7

5. +- (2.02): 30...Qe4 31.Qc6 Bd4 32.Kh1 Bxf2 33.Qa6 exd5 34.Qxa3 Qe2 35.Qc1 Qe4 36.Qd2 Bc5 37.Rxf8+ Bxf8

I'll start sliding forwards and see where these lines lead.

Jun-11-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  kwid:
<Nickster:> < 30.Rad1 > ed5 should hold with the a3 pawn protected by the DCB and their pawns on one wing. even Bxf2+ or Qf7 should hold also.
Jun-11-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  centralfiles: OFF TOPIC
<Kwid>
Did you ever take a deep look at the mortimer variation of the 4.d3 ruy?

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 Nf6 4.d3
4...Ne7!?


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Would love to hear your opinion of it.
Despite the recent popularity of 4.d3, the mortimer is almost never seen in serious play. Though to me it doesn't seem all that bad. See
Efimenko vs Cherniaev, 2005 (kibitz #6)

Jun-12-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  centralfiles: <kwid:
<Nickster:> < 30.Rad1 > ed5 should hold with the a3 pawn protected by the DCB and their pawns on one wing. even Bxf2+ or Qf7 should hold also.>
This is the problem trying to analyze with you <kwid>. We tirelessly weave through complex middlegames using engines to critique or verify your lines only to be told when we finally get to the endgames "oh that's a simple draw didn't you realize that all along?"

Rage against the machine

Jun-12-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  Lambda: I've been running the auto-search script on the team white plan after 19...Rf6 of 20.Rb1 Kd8 21.Qd5 Bd7 <22.Red1> and it seems to be holding up quite well, e.g. 22...Na5 23.Be2 Rf5 24.Qg8+ Rf8 25.Qxh7 Bc5 26.Qd3 Rxf4 27.Nxd6 Qxd6 28.Qxd6 Bxd6 29.Rxd6 Ke7 30.Rd3 Bf5 31.Rxe3+ Kf6 32.Rb5 Nc4 33.Bxc4 Rxc4 34.Ree5 Kxg5 35.Rxf5+ Kg6


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Winnable?

Jun-12-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  Lambda: Probably not, looking deeper. But 26.Qd3 may be a mistake.
Jun-12-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  Lambda: Okay, now I've fed it 26.Rd5 in that line, it's looking at an exchange sacrifice with 22...g6 23.Ne4 Rf5 24.Qd3 <Rxb5> 25.Rxb5 Kc7 26.Qxd6+ Qxd6 27.Nxd6 Rf8 28.Be2 a6 29.Rb2 Rxf4 30.Nxb7 Rf2 31.Nd6 Ne5 32.Ne4 Rf4 33.Ng5 h6 34.Nf3 Nxf3 35.Bxf3 Bb5 36.c4 Rxc4 37.Be2 Rc5 38.Bxb5 axb5


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I have suspicions that this is a draw.

Jun-12-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  kwid: <Lambda:> <I have suspicions that this is a draw>

Yes both of your shown lines confirm that 19...Rf6 instead of h6 would have secured a draw for us.


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Jun-12-18  Nickster: <kwid: <Nickster:> < 30.Rad1 > ed5 should hold with the a3 pawn protected by the DCB and their pawns on one wing. even Bxf2+ or Qf7 should hold also.>

Just got home from work and finally had the chance to look at the resulting lines. Despite the high evaluations it looks like a draw. If there is a forced win somewhere I could not find it.

Jun-12-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  kwid: <centralfiles: OFF TOPIC> <Kwid>< Did you ever take a deep look at the mortimer variation of the 4.d3 ruy? 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 Nf6 4.d3 4...Ne7!? >

No; but when looking at the position with Bb5/d3 blacks Ne7 seems justified since Nxe5 forces a piece sacrifice because of Qa5+/Qxe5 option and presence a challenge to white creativity for maintaining its first move advantage.

The timid d3 move with the idea to set up with c3/Ba4/Bc2/Nbd2/Ndf1 etc hoping to exploit any black weakness or mount a king side attack in the long run is well met with Ne7!? even in violation of an important opening principle not to move a piece twice in the opening phase.

Jun-12-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  kwid: <Nickster: Despite the high evaluations it looks like a draw. If there is a forced win somewhere I could not find it.>

It does look now that the Traxler line Bf7/Bc4/b4 is a theoretical draw for the sake of history.

But I am still awaiting RV's final conclusion about this line.

Jun-12-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  AylerKupp: <<Nickster> The <fabulous line>. Nice find actually. Kudos to <AylerKupp>.>

Thanks. But I had nothing to do with it, it was Stockfish 8 who did all the work. Besides, as <kwid> pointed out, 13...Nc6 as originally indicated by Stockfish 8, is not Black’s best move. 13...Nc4 as pointed out by <kwid> gives Black better chances as does 13...Ng6 as later pointed out by Stockfish (as well as 13...Nc4).

So, as though more evidence is needed, none of the evaluations I posted (to be followed soon by the actual moves) should not be considered anything more than initial attempts to find the best moves by Black. <ALL> the lines need to be subjected to human verification and engine forward sliding before one can reach any definitive conclusions.

Which, as usual, reminds me of a story. Many (many, many) years ago at a party I found myself tending bar. As people asked me for a particular drink, I measured the amounts of the ingredients and made them their drinks.

One of the partygoers asked me why I bothered to measure the amounts of ingredients and why couldn’t I could just eyeball the amounts. I responded “Well, if I eyeball the amounts and you don’t like the drink, you’ll justifiably blame it on me. But if I measure the amounts and you don’t like the drink, I can always justifiably blame on the measure.”

Likewise, if the line I posted turns out not to be the best, I can always blame it on the engine that came up with the evaluation. :-)

Jun-13-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  kwid: <Dec-11-17 kwid: OK, the expected line is: 15.h3 Ne3 16.Re1 Kd7 17.Bxe3 dxe3 18.Na3 Qe7 19.Nb5 Rf6>

I need to apologize to the team for not being able to build the necessary consent to get it voted in.

Jun-13-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  AylerKupp: <Traxler Detailed Analysis Part 1 – 7.0-0 to 29.Qxh6>

I’ve finally completed reformatting the detailed analysis for the first set of analyses I generated, from 7.0-0 to 29.Qxh6. You can download the analysis in *.zip format from here: http://www.mediafire.com/file/rh2hi....

The detailed analysis is a set of Word files, one for each move, with each file consisting of 3 parts:

1. Summary of Black’s choices after each Team White move. The moves that were considered by each of the engines in Team HKS (Houdini, Komodo, Stockfish) to be among their top 5 moves and their evaluations.

2. Analysis by engine. Detailed analysis of the lines of the top 5 moves as determined by each engine; their evaluation and moves.

3. Analysis by move. For each move identified by at least one of the engines as being among their top 5 moves, the position after that move was made and the engines’ evaluation and lines for that move.

There is a _Read_Me.doc file included in the *.zip file that gives additional details on the contents of each detailed analysis file.

Hopefully I’ll be able to reformat the other half of the analyses, moves 30.Qg7+ to 55.h7 “soon”.

As a reminder, in case any was needed, these lines are just the initial evaluations by these 3 engines. They have not been verified by either human analysis or forward sliding. So don’t form any definitive conclusions bases on these analyses until both have been done.

If you have any questions, just let me know.

Jun-15-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  mistermac: Do not visit often.

A fair bit of interesting material and debate since the end of May.

Jun-15-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  morfishine: <kwid> No need to apologize for "not being able to build the necessary consent to get it voted in". Its not your job or anyone's job to take an active role in selling a line

Its hard enough to come up with great lines. Presenting the best line with sound arguments is all one can do

Then the remaining members can make up their own minds

Jun-17-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  kwid: <Dec-11-17 kwid: OK, the expected line is: 15.h3 Ne3 16.Re1 Kd7 17.Bxe3 dxe3 18.Na3 Qe7 19.Nb5 Rf6>

20. Bd5 Kd8 21. Ne4 Rxf4 22. Nexd6 Bg4 23. Qd3 Ne5 24. Qxh7 a6 25. Nxb7+ Kd7 26. Nd4 Raf8 27. Qb1

(27. Rxe3 Rf1+ 28. Rxf1 Rxf1+ 29. Kh2 Qf8 30. Qg8 Nf3+ 31. Bxf3 Qxg8 32. Bxg4+ Kc7 33. Re7+ Kb8 34. Nc6+ Ka8 35. Nd6 Bg1+ 36. Kg3 Bf2+ 37. Kh2 Bg1+ )

27... Kc7 28. Rxe3 Qg5 29. Rg3 Qh4 30. Qb4 Qxg3 31. Ne6+ Bxe6 32. Qd6+ Kc8 33. Bxe6+ Kxb7 34. Bd5+ Kc8 35. Be6+ Kb7

Jun-23-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  WinKing: Team Thematic Challenge (Pg. 3)

*37.h5 - 19 votes - (100.0%)*

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*37...Re4 - 9 votes - (64.3%)*
37...1-0 - 4 votes - (28.6%)
37...other - 1 vote - (7.1%)

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*38.h6 - 22 votes - (100.0%)*

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*38...1-0 -7 votes - (38.9%)*
38...Re1+ - 7 votes - (38.9%)
38...Re2 - 3 votes - (16.7%)
38...other - 1 vote - (5.5%)

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*39. Kh2 - 20 votes - (100.0%)*

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*39...Re2+ - 11 votes - (64.7%)*
39...1-0 - 2 votes - (11.8%)
39...Bg1+ - 2 votes - (11.8%)
39...other - 2 votes - (11.8%)

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*40.Kg3 - 22 votes - (100.0%)*

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*40...Re3+ - 11 votes - (78.6%)*
40...1-0 - 2 votes - (14.3%)
40...other - 1 vote - (7.1%)

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*41.Kg2 - 20 votes - (100.0%)*

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*41...Bd5+ - 8 votes - (57.1%)*
41...1-0 - 6 votes -(42.9%)

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*42.Kf1 - 21 votes - (100.0%)*

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*42...Bc4+ - 9 votes - (56.2%)*
42...1-0 - 7 votes -(43.8%)

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*43.Kf2 - 16 votes - (100.0%)*

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*43...Rxc3+ - 8 votes - (61.5%)*
43...1-0 - 3 votes - (23.1%)
43...Re2+ - 2 votes - (15.4%)

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*44.Ke1 - 20 votes - (100.0%)*

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*44...Nf3+ - 11 votes - (68.8%)*
44...1-0 - 5 votes - (31.2%)

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*45.Kd1 - 19 votes - (90.5%)*
45.Rxf3 - 2 votes - (9.5%)

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*45...Rd3+ - 10 votes - (66.7%)*
45...1-0 - 3 votes - (20.0%)
45...Bxa2 - 2 votes - (13.3%)

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*46.Kc1 - 16 votes - (94.1%)*
46.Other - 1 vote - (5.9%)

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*46...Be3+ - 11 votes - (84.6%)*
46...1-0 - 2 votes - (15.4%)

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*47.Kb1 - 20 votes - (100.0%)*

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*47...Rd1+ - 7 votes - (63.6%)*
47...1-0 - 3 votes - (27.3%)
47...other - 1 vote - (9.1%)

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*48.Kc2 - 18 votes - (100.0%)*

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*48...Rc1+ - 12 votes - (75.0%)*
48...1-0 - 3 votes -(18.8%)
48...other - 1 vote - (6.2%)

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*49.Kb2 - 16 votes - (100.0%)*

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*49...Bd4+ - 11 votes - (84.6%)*
49...1-0 - 2 votes - (15.4%)

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*50.Qxd4 - 17 votes - (100.0%)*

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*50...Nxd4 - 12 votes - (70.6%)*
50...1-0 - 4 votes - (23.5%)
50...other - 1 vote - (5.9%)

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*51.Kxc1 - 20 votes - (90.9%)*
51.h7 - 2 votes - (9.1%)

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*51...Bg8 - 11 votes - (68.8%)*
51...1-0 - 4 votes - (25.0%)
51...other - 1 vote - (6.2%)

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*52.Rf6 - 19 votes - (100.0%)*

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*52...Ke7 - 7 votes - (46.7%)*
52...1-0 - 5 votes - (33.3%)
52...Nc6 - 2 votes - (13.3%)
52...other - 1 vote - (6.7%)

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*53.Rg6 - 21 votes - (100.0%)*

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*53...Kf8 - 9 votes - (60.0%)*
53...1-0 - 5 votes - (33.3%)
53...other - 1 vote - (6.7%)

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*54.Rxd6 - 21 votes - (100.0%)*

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*54...Ne6 - 10 votes - (55.6%)*
54...Nc6 - 4 votes -(22.2%)
54...1-0 - 3 votes - (16.7%)
54...other - 1 vote - (5.5%)

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*55.h7 - 16 votes - (80.0%)*
55.Rd7 - 4 votes - (20.0%)

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***55...1-0 - 9 votes - (50.0%)***
55...Bxh7 - 8 votes - (44.4%)
55...Bxh7 - 1 vote - (5.6%)

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Jun-23-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  WinKing: Team Thematic Challenge (Pg. 2)

*19.Nb5 - 20 votes - (95.2%)*
19.Other - 1 vote - (4.8%)

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*19...h6 - 7 votes - (43.8%)*
19...Rf6 - 7 votes - (43.8%)
19...other - 2 votes - (12.4%)

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*20.Ne6 - 20 votes - (90.9%)*
20.Qg4+ - 2 votes - (9.1%)

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*20...Rf6 - 16 votes - (88.9%)*
20...Rf5 - 2 votes - (11.1%)

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*21.Nbc7 - 20 votes - (90.9%)*
21.Other - 2 votes - (9.1%)

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*21...Bxc7 - 14 votes - (87.5%)*
21...other - 2 votes - (87.5%)

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*22.Rxe3 - 27 votes - (100.0%)*

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*22...Bb6 - 12 votes - (70.6%)*
22...Rxe6 - 3 votes - (17.6%)
22...other - 2 votes - (17.6%)

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*23.Re1 - 21 votes - (95.5%)*
23.Other - 1vote - (4.5%)

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*23...g6 - 13 votes - (76.5%)*
23...1-0 - 2 votes - (11.8%)
23...other 2 votes - (11.8%)

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*24.Rb1 - 18 votes - (78.3%)*
24.Qg4 - 3 votes - (13.0%)
24.Qd3 - 2 votes - (8.7%)

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*24...Rxe6 - 10 votes - (62.5%)
24...Qh7 - 3 votes - (18.8%)
24...other - 3 votes - (18.8%)

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*25.Bxe6+ - 22 votes - (84.6%)*
25.Bxe6 - 2 votes - (7.7%)
25.Other - 2 votes - (7.7%)

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*25...Qxe6 - 11 votes - (84.6%)*
25...1-0 - 2 votes - (15.4%)

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*26.Rxe6 - 24 votes - (100.0%)*

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*26...Kxe6 - 14 votes - (87.5%)*
26...1-0 - 2 votes - (12.5%)

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*27.f5+ - 18 votes - (94.7%)*
27.Other - 1 vote - (5.3%)

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*27...gxf5 - 13 votes - (86.7%)*
27...1-0 - 2 votes - (13.3%)

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*28.Qh5 - 20 votes - (95.2%)*
28.Other - 1 vote - (4.8%)

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*28...Ke7 - 13 votes - (92.9%)*
28...other - 1 vote - (7.1%)

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*29.Qxh6 - 23 votes - (92.0%)*
29.Other - 2 vote - (8.0%)

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*29...Be6 - 16 votes - (84.2%)*
29...Ne5 - 2 votes - (10.5%)
29...other - 1 vote - (5.3%)

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*30.Qg7+ - 22 votes - (95.7%)*
30.Other - 1 vote - (4.3%)

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*30...Bf7 - 17 votes - (100.0%)*

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*31.Rf1 - 20 votes - (91.0%)*
31.Other - 2 votes - (9.0%)

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*31...Rg8 - 16 votes - (88.9%)*
31...other - 2 votes - (11.1%)

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*32.Qh7 - 22 votes - (100.0%)*

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*32...Ne5 - 13 votes - (65.0%)*
32...Rg5 - 4 votes - (20.0%)
32...1-0 - 3 votes - (15.0%)

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*33.Rxf5 - 22 votes - (81.5%)*
33.g4 - 3 votes - (11.1%)
33.Other - 2 votes - (7.4%)

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*33...Rf8 - 13 votes - (61.9%)*
33...8-O - 4 votes - (19.0%)
33...Rc8 - 3 votes - (14.3%)
33...other - 1 vote - (4.8%)

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*34.h4 - 17 votes - (73.9%)*
34.Qh4+ - 4 votes - (17.4%)
34 Other 2 votes - (8.7%)

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34...Rc8 - 16 votes - (88.9%)
34...other - 2 votes - (11.1%)

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*35.Qg7 - 23 votes - (88.5%)*
35.Other - 3 votes - (11.5%)

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*35...Rc4 - 16 votes - (84.2%)*
35...Ba5 - 2 votes - (10.5%)
35...Ba5 - 1 vote - (5.3%)

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*36.g4 - 22 votes - (91.7%)*
36.Other - 2 votes - (8.3%)

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*36...Ke8 - 10 votes - (62.5%)*
36...Re4 - 5 votes -(31.2%)
36...other - 1 vote - (6.3%)

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Jun-23-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  WinKing: Team Thematic Challenge (Pg. 1)

Two Knights Defense (Traxler Counter Attack)

<1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Ng5 Bc5> Game started from this position.


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Voting Statistics for White & Black:

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*5.Bxf7+ - 11 votes - (52.4%)*
5.d4 - 8 votes - (38.1%)
5.Nxf7 - 2 votes - (9.5%)

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*5...Ke7 - 21votes - (95.5%)*
5...other - 1vote - (4.5%)

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*6.Bc4 - 16 votes - (80.0%)*
6.Bb3 - 2 votes - (10.0%)
6.Other - 2 votes - (10.0%)

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*6...Rf8 - 11 votes - (47.8%)*
6...Qe8 - 8 votes - (34.8%)
6...d5 - 4 votes - (17.4%)

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*7.O-O - 15 votes - (75.0%)*
7.Nc3 - 4 votes - (20.0%)
7.Other - 1 vote - (5.0%)

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*7...Qe8 - 10 votes - (58.8%)*
7...d6 - 5 votes - (29.4%)
7...h6 - 2 votes - (11.8%)

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*8.b4 - 14 votes - (82.4%)*
8.Nc3 - 2 votes - (11.8%)
8.Other - 1 vote - (5.9%)

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*8...Bxb4 - 11 votes - (57.9%)*
8...Bb6 - 7 votes - (36.8%)
8...other - 1 vote - (5.3%)

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*9.c3 - 17 votes - (94.4%)*
9.Other - 1 vote - (5.6%)

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*9...Ba5 - 10 votes - (52.6%)*
9...h6 - 7 votes - (36.8%)
9...Bc5 - 2 votes - (10.5%)

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*10.d4 - 20 votes - (95.2%)*
10.Other - 1 vote - (4.8%)

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*10...d6 - 16 votes - (84.2%)*
10...other - 2 votes - (15.8%)

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*11.f4 - 19 votes - (95.0%)*
11.Other - 1 vote - (5.0%)

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*11...Bb6 - 18 votes - (81.8%)*
11...Bg4 - 2 votes - (9.1%)
11...other - 2 votes - (9.1%)

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*12.Kh1 - 21 votes - (95.5%)*
12.Other - 1 vote - (4.5%)

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*12...exd4 - 15 votes - (88.2%)*
12...other - 2 votes - (11.8%)

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*13.e5 - 22 votes - (95.7%)*
13.Other - 1 vote - (4.3%)

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*13...Ng4 - 16 votes - (94.1%)*
13...other - 1 vote - (5.9%)

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*14.exd6 - 14 votes - (66.7%)*
14.Be2 - 5 votes - (23.8%)
14.Other - 2 - (9.5%)

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*14...cxd6 - 14 votes - (66.7%)*
14...Kd8 - 5 votes - (23.8%)
14...other - 2 votes - (9.5%)

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*15.h3 - 18 votes - (81.8%)*
15.Re1+ - 2 votes - (9.1%)
15. Other - 2 votes - (9.1%)

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*15...Ne3 - 15 votes - (88.2%)*
15...other - 2 votes - (11.8%)

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*16.Re1 - 21 votes - (95.5%)*
16.Other - 1 votes - (4.5%)

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*16...Kd7 - 14 votes - (93.3%)*
16...other - 1 vote - (6.7%)

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*17.Bxe3 - 22 votes - (95.7%)*
17. Other - 1 vote - (4.3%)

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*17...dxe3 - 14 votes - (93.3%)*
17...other - 1 vote - (6.7%)

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*18.Na3 - 22 votes - (100.0%)*

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*18...Qe7 - 12 votes - (80.0%)*
18...a6 - 3 votes - (20.0%)

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