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MTel Masters (2005)

Player: Veselin Topalov

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Game  ResultMoves Year Event/LocaleOpening
1. Ponomariov vs Topalov 1-040 2005 MTel MastersE00 Queen's Pawn Game
 

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May-25-05  Stevens: By the way <ariel> what did you make of the new rules at the MTel tournament regarding draws?
May-25-05  gabrielr: Wow, this is like watching Oprah. I think I am going to cry.
May-25-05  Stevens: <gabriel> who gets to be oprah? ;-)
May-25-05
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  arielbekarov: <Catfriend> I am afraid that you haven't understood me. When I am mentioning that the age group of 7-11 years old children shouldn't have a profile never mind how mature, doesn't mean they are creating a problem. They are surely not! But, you have to understand that I have to tell how I see it as a so called adult person. This is a question of responsibility and I can't gamble with what I think is right and important.

Young children (7-11 years) need a grown-up, hopefully mature person for guiding them and help them to make the meeting with Internet to a fruitful one. I don't want them to be banned. But, I prefer to present the world of Internet slowly for them, which means having all the options except for kibitzing. We are not aware of the age the kibitzer has before some postings, if not like you presenting it on your profile.

I can imagine a child at the age of seven getting a rude and ironic answer and this will harm the contact with a grown-up for long time. It's absolutely not needed !

I don't want to ban them! I want to be sure that they are ready to meet a new lovely world, where some idea of what can be written is well prepared. That's all! Now, it's hard to digest for you, but I am sure you will understand better with some more years. This might be called experience of life.

This is not a quarrel! We are discussing without getting personal and this is worth a lot! All the best!
Ariel

May-25-05
Premium Chessgames Member
  arielbekarov: <Stevens> Good that you try to sort this out because it's very important that my slightly younger friends do understand me well. It would be sad, if I won't be able to make my point as it is expressed in English.

What do I think about the new ideas first presented in Sofia ?

The tournament was a real great one and some of the games were breath taking. I followed the now famous Veselin Topalov vs Judit Polgar 1/2-1/2.

This was not the only extraordinary game and it seems that the new rules are the ones that made it possible. So I am very much in favor of them.

It will be great in San Luis, Argentina.
The future looks bright for chess!
Ariel

May-25-05  Stevens: <ariel> I though the new rules made for much more entertaining games. What puts me off following some live games is that you sit there for 2 hours watching the play develop and then from out of nowhere DRAW! So dissapointing.

Like i said, i thought it made watching the games more interesting, but some will always say that the quality of the chess will drop if players aren't allowed to agree to short draws in tournaments. Sometimes i agree with this but sometimes i think it's good to watch a baseball game where there are lots of runs and the games' momentum shifts backward and forth with some wild play, and sometimes it's good to see perfect pitching and perfect defense, even at the "expense" of lots of runs.

May-25-05  goosey2: <arielbekarov> Forget your total argument about kids and adults. Who cares who is anonimous and who isn't. It doesn't matter. So take it easy. Don't try and make everyone the same as you. Regards, Nino
May-25-05  madlydeeply: this is the first time I ever laughed out loud sitting by myself looking at this website
May-26-05  percyblakeney: The final Chessbase report from Sofia, at least the Kramnik cartoon is a bit fun:

http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail...

May-26-05  hintza: They all look so happy, even Ponomariov. It's great to see!
May-26-05
Premium Chessgames Member
  Annie K.: Thanks <keypusher> and <Gregor Samsa Mendel>. I'll add those games to the collection. :)

Very well said, <Catfriend>! :)

May-26-05
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  arielbekarov: <hintza> It is really very good to see!

Obviously they respect and like each other.
Ariel

May-27-05  SnakeMan: I have been enjoying this site for more than two years now, i dont write much, but i like to read all interesting discussions about players, positions and that stuff.

And now i see this boring discussion, come on!!! dont waste the time arguing about so insignificant matters of children, anonymous people, dont start making this site a boring place like, lets talk about chess, please dont mess the site.

May-27-05  sandyobrien: <percyblakeney>

I hope he didn't take that as an insult. Very funny, however.

May-28-05  PanamaChess: I wanted to share with everbody that from June 21 to June 27, GM Michael Adams will play a 6 games match against the considered most powerfull Computer today, Hydra.

It is said that hydra has been never beaten by humans yet, i remember that a time ago Topalov, Radjabov and somebody else played computers Hydra,Deep Blue and Fritz 7 and they got demolished by these computers.

I have watch some Hydra games and its great,i hope that Adams will be able to at leat beat Hydra once.

to read the whole notice go to
http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail...

May-28-05  goosey2: umm... <sandyobrien> Do you really think Kramnik reads the junk posted on this site????
May-28-05  SnoopDogg: <It is said that hydra has been never beaten by humans yet> Correction, never been beaten by a human besides correspondence chess. GM Nickel, not even 2600, crushed Hydra with the black pieces and later again with white.
May-28-05  MrSifter: Don't matter, it's been outplayed convincingly enough.
May-29-05  SnoopDogg: <a time ago Topalov, Radjabov and somebody else played computers Hydra,Deep Blue and Fritz 7> What?? Deep Blue was disassembled years ago, they have a Fritz 8 now and Radjabov was nowhere near Bilbao where Topalov, Karjakin, and Ponomariov played against Hydra, Junior 9, and Fritz 8. Karjakin thrashed Junior, Topalov almost won Hydra and Ponomariov sucked the whole tournament. I'll admit the humans did get slaughtered but it was not any of the GM's best day or even good day for that matter and plus these are not the best players in the world. Maybe Topalov but Ponomariov and Karjakin...no.
May-29-05  MrSifter: <SnoopDogg> It doesn't really matter. Topalov showed he outplayed the machine, Karjakin, who wasn't even brought in as a represntative of the best human chess players, (just as a young star which would be attract more people to the event) toasted Junior in excellent style. Ponomariov was obviously in bad form and no one really takes his bad perfomance very seriously because of that.
Jun-14-05
Premium Chessgames Member
  Annie K.: I just found M-Tel on the list of tournaments to be rated for the July 2005 ratings list:

http://www.fide.com/ratings/treport...

So it's a rated tournament after all. :)

Sep-09-07  Cactus: What was the end result?
Sep-09-07
Premium Chessgames Member
  Karpova: <Cactus>
MTel Masters (2005)

Just add <&crosstable=1> at the end of the link to see the final standings

Oct-05-13  gospod1: people i came to the page about this tournament for one reason look at krammnik vs adams looks like a regular game but the game feauters the most played moves in the ruy lopez which proves ends in a draw
Oct-05-13  John Abraham: <gospod1> Do you have nothing better to do than visit old tournament pages trying to find evidence to support your theory that the Ruy Lopez always end in a draw?
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