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|May-03-08|| ||virginmind: well, life is tough,,,|
|May-03-08|| ||hovik2003: Sergei Movsessian from Slovakia is wiping every GM he is lined up with, he won with black against Volkov in third round by a nice evergoing attack, this guy hasn't lost a game as far as I remember!!|
It is a shame he win silver medal though, this is obviously outcome of cautious last rounds short draws!
|May-03-08|| ||shr0pshire: Maybe Sutovsky is questioning his strategy now of the quick 10 and fifteen move draws in the middle of the tournament after such a great start. |
Glad those short draws came back to haunt him.
|May-03-08|| ||Mameluk: <shr0pshire> Sutovsky advanced to World Cup and thatīs it. Movsesianīs form is just amazing, pity he played it safe and did not bring few other Elo-points to his pocket till itīs going.|
|May-03-08|| ||MichAdams: It would be an interesting test case if Sutovsky's right, as an Israeli, to participate in this event, were to be the subject of legal challenge. |
|May-03-08|| ||slomarko: <MichAdams: It would be an interesting test case if Sutovsky's right, as an Israeli, to participate in this event, were to be the subject of legal challenge.> what the hell are you talking about?|
|May-03-08|| ||MichAdams: I'm referring to the supposition that Israel is not a nation within the bounds of the geographical region known as Europe. Which would consequently invalidate his right to participate in said event.
|May-03-08|| ||cannibal: <MichAdams>
Are you by any chance familiar with the situation in the near East? That's why Sutovsky is here (or why Israel is in the UEFA), trying to throw them out would be more than ridiculous - and definitely not "an interesting test case".
|May-03-08|| ||Rottamo: This is chess discussion arena, if you guys want to speak about world politics,then there are other forums for that.|
|May-03-08|| ||slomarko: why wasn't this provocative post deleted too? <MichAdams: I'm referring to the supposition that Israel is not a nation within the bounds of the geographical region known as Europe. Which would consequently invalidate his right to participate in said event.>
if you leave this leave my reply too.|
|May-04-08|| ||zluria: Israel takes part in all of the european competitions: Basketball, football, the eurovision, you name it. Chess is no different.|
|May-04-08|| ||MichAdams: <if you leave this leave my reply too.>|
Applying that logic, they'd end up having to leave the entire exchange, so, even though I condemn <cg.com>'s act of unwarranted censorship, their pruning was prudently done.
|May-04-08|| ||MichAdams: <Israel takes part in all of the european competitions: Basketball, football, the eurovision, you name it. Chess is no different.>|
Yes, they should all be made the subject of legal challenge. I'm under no illusion that any European court would rule against them, but it'd still be interesting to see the torturous reasoning used in justification.
|May-04-08|| ||virginmind: <MichAdams> kamceatka is in russia and look on the map how far this peninsula is from "the geographical boundaries" of europe - and still russians are playing in eicc.|
but then again, back to chess. congratulations to the winners of eicc and to those qualified to the world cup.
|May-04-08|| ||MichAdams: But part of Russia is in Europe, so, in a legal sense, participation by any of its citizens is justified. I'm not aware that any part of Israel is in Europe (aside, perhaps, from their embassies).|
|May-04-08|| ||virginmind: hey, where have all the posts gone? who's the boss here?|
oh, i see...
|May-04-08|| ||MichAdams: Just be grateful that <cg.com> saved you from further embarrassment.|
|May-04-08|| ||virginmind: oh, i thought you are the one who should be embarrassed about posting racial based considerations, and switching to ad personam when in lack of arguments.|
|May-04-08|| ||MichAdams: The ad hominem remarks were just the icing on the cake. The cake being the puerility of your arguments. As for racial based considerations, you apparently have no scruples about Israel being an explicitly Jewish entity.|
|May-04-08|| ||WannaBe: I don't know how the word 'explicitly' is used here, but according to http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_t...|
<Making up 16.2% of the population, Muslims constitute Israel's largest religious minority. Israeli Arabs, who comprise 19.8% of the population, contribute significantly to that figure as over four fifths (82.6%) of them are Muslim. Of the remaining Israeli Arabs, 8.8% are Christian and 8.4% are Druze. Members of many other religious groups, including Buddhists and Hindus, maintain a presence in Israel, albeit in small numbers.>
|May-04-08|| ||MichAdams: By explicitly, I meant founding documents such as:
It's partly because of the present and future demographic realities amongst Israel's population, that I call for the country's dissolution. 3 or 4 million Jews could easily be absorbed back into the West, especially if similar numbers of Muslims went in the opposite direction.
|May-04-08|| ||virginmind: <MichAdams> puerile (or completely superficial) was argumentation such as the one about the arabic numerals you've mentioned - before being deleted.|
|May-04-08|| ||MichAdams: I was only responding in kind to the idiotic notion that Sutovsky be allowed to compete in the European Championship, because of the Bible. Better come up with a better legal defence than that.|
|May-04-08|| ||Augalv: <slomarko: why wasn't this provocative post deleted too? <MichAdams: I'm referring to the supposition that Israel is not a nation within the bounds of the geographical region known as Europe. Which would consequently invalidate his right to participate in said event.>> |
I don't see what's so provocative about this post.
Why are players from a non-European country such as Israel competing in the EICC? I don't see any Iranian or Palestine players in the participant's list.
|May-04-08|| ||MichAdams: I'd be prepared to make a principled exception if an event was a FIDE qualifier of some description, and the suitable alternative (such as one played in a country that didn't diplomatically recognise Israel) was rendered unsuitable.|
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