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12th European Individual Championship (2011)

Player: Baadur Jobava

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Game  ResultMoves Year Event/LocaleOpening
1. Jobava vs Potkin 0-126 2011 12th European Individual ChampionshipD11 Queen's Gambit Declined Slav

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  Shams: <parmetd> Could you show your work next time? I'm afraid I can award only partial credit, even though you got the right answer.
Apr-07-11  HowDoesTheHorsieMove: <I think you're wrong, one win is better than two draws.> Yes, I agree. But is it better than a win and a loss? That is not so clear.
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  Shams: Well, obviously we're comparing a win and a loss vs. two draws, otherwise there's no tie to break. This is if you weren't being facetious.
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  parmetd: I showed my full work. Good thing I was the professor in the this scenario so as the student it was not your choice whether to award credit or not.
Apr-08-11  shivasuri4: <parmetd>,I am sure you know that students can review the performance of teachers in a lot of schools too.With regard to the argument,many people would disagree with you(although I agree with you here).For example,the Bilboa organisers give 3 points for a win and a loss but just 2 points for a pair of draws.There must be a reason for that,you know.
Apr-08-11  kia0708: pity

shivasuri wrote:
<Please don't follow the crosstable positions here.They are not necessarily always arranged in correct order.>

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  parmetd: First of all, thats a round robin NOT a swiss. Second of all, thats NOT a tiebreak it IS the scoring system. Third, many many professional players have lambasted the football scoring system as an affront to all chess stands for. The draw is a natural result. The sooner spectators get over this the better chess has for progressing as a sponsored sport internationally. Now that I've corrected all your arguments student. I shall proceed to point out that student reviews go nowhere. Often unread. usually shredded. You didn't know that? You thought they actually got read did you?
Apr-08-11  wanabe2000: <turbo231>

Interview from Sports Express:

Question to Vladimir Potkin. "In the last round you played with the famous Judit Polgar, who could sometimes beat Kasparov and Kramnik and Ivanchuk, and other prominent players. While you were white, but in the performance of Judith acute "staroindiyka" particularly dangerous ..."

Vladimir Potkin's Reply: "I knew this, of course. Staroindiyskaya protection - Repertory debut Judit Polgar, I was ready for the fact that she can use it, and in this case would be a great fight. But Judith has chosen a more quiet and reliable protection Nimzo-Indian, making it clear that nobody's happy with it. Such a development suited me, since I had the best advanced performance. I offered a draw which Judith took without any hesitation. After the game she said she saw how well I played in this tournament, and therefore did not want to risk the dark."

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  Shams: What the hell are they talking about?
Apr-08-11  HeMateMe: Bad translation, Russian to English.
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  parmetd: better translation here:
Apr-08-11  turbo231: <wanabe2000: <turbo231>

Interview from Sports Express:>

Thanks. So Judit settled for a draw to secure third place. What man in that situation would have done what she did?

Apr-08-11  HeMateMe: Someone who has bills to pay?
Apr-08-11  turbo231: <HeMateMe: Someone who has bills to pay?>

I thought about that, maybe she needs the money.

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  parmetd: she also said she saw how in form Potkin was so she did not want to risk anything with black. Ie kinda implying if she had white it would be a different story.
Apr-08-11  shivasuri4: <parmetd>,in our schools here at least they are read,whether you like it or not.There was no need to be so rude anyways.
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  kingfu: Let's play Chess.
Let's play poker.

I have four kinks and they are not in my back!

Apr-11-11  turbo231: I wonder if Zsuzsa Polgar supports her sister's decision?
Apr-11-11  HeMateMe: She has said before that a negotiated settlement, in the last game of a tournament is acceptable, to lock in prize money. I think that comment was made years ago, when Judit had a relatively quick draw against Peter Leko, in a tournament that gave Leko first place over Anand. There was a picutre of Anand in the backround, giving the game in progress a suspicious glance (two Hungarian players, deciding first place in the event).
Apr-11-11  bharatiy: yes that was Corus 2005. Judit drew with Leko in last game and leko won the tournament. But to be fair to Leko, he had defeated Anand in that tournament and remained undefeated in that tournament. Also in the last round Anand had a chance to at least equal and share first by defeating Sokolov, but he could manage only a draw, and Sokolov was having quite a bad tournament with no win and 6 losses. Leko had white against Judit and with the kind of tournament he was having I dont think it was expected that he would lose. So at the end I think its unfair to accuse Judit for favoring her compatriot.
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  Aurora: <Peter Heine Nielsen protests ECU performance calculations>

"The 2011 Individual European Championship was also a qualification tournament, with the top 23 finishers getting a seat in the 2011 World Cup. Problem was that behind the first 23 players there were 29 with a tied score. So the performance was used to break the tie. <However the system produced some bizarre results <>>, as GM Peter Heine Nielsen explains."

If you read through his protest you have nothing but to agree with him.

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Apr-20-11  LIFE Master AJ: still no update to the scores here????
Jun-02-11  Goofy: What is truly wrong with Chess and the inability to find the perfect game or attack lies in the fact that the board is inbalanced from the start. Consider the King next to the queen moves one space while the queen anywhere. To balance the board and give both sides equality from the start one should have either two queens one on each side of white and blacks king increasing the board size by 9x8 or two Kings and Two Queens with the two Kings in the middle. Now that would make an interesting game of Chess. I just suppose the rocket scientists of Chess unlike myself have not figured these things out yet. Otherwise when all is said and done and the final best world's undefeatable computer is finally programmed or created that never loses white will be the winner everytime.
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  Octavia: Judit Polgar is 1st= hurra! She's getting back to the top!!!
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