|Sep-18-06|| ||Resignation Trap: Here's a photo of game 17 in progress:
|Sep-18-06|| ||positionalgenius: <Resignation Trap>Thanks for the link,thats a cool photo.|
|Sep-19-06|| ||Chess Classics: I wonder if you can contribute Botvinnik's collapse in this match to not having played with a second. On the other hand, he did win back the title 3 years later under the same circumstances.|
|Sep-19-06|| ||Maatalkko: Botvinnik had good reason to be suspicious of his second. I remember one famous game that Kasparov had annotated, in which Smyslov as Black had very deep prep for a kind of KID that Botvinnik hadn't yet used. Botvinnik vs Smyslov, 1954.|
|Oct-29-06|| ||talisman: what was the second's name?|
|Dec-12-06|| ||Ch3ckmate: what meaning or tasks does the "second" have?|
|Dec-12-06|| ||code13: The second's main task was to help with analysis. In particular adjournment analysis.|
|Dec-12-06|| ||Ch3ckmate: <code13> thanks for answering my questions|
|Feb-11-07|| ||Open Defence: wow a lot of decisive games... for both sides....|
|Feb-11-07|| ||talisman: <Open Defence> take a look at the 24th game from the 1st match.any idea why smyslov would offer draw? or agree to a draw?|
|Mar-19-08|| ||Knight13: This match is really good.|
|Mar-20-08|| ||positionalgenius: <Knight13> Yes- they are legends of the game...|
|Sep-30-08|| ||Whitehat1963: In four of the five short "grandmaster" draws in this match, Botvinnik played white. I can only guess he was tired and needed a break and that Smyslov was happy to oblige. Are there other explanations?|
|Feb-07-09|| ||bluberry66: wowww
|Feb-07-09|| ||bluberry66: people he was doing fine|
|Sep-17-09|| ||Pawn and Two: In the above opening comments, it states that Botvinnik used no seconds for either the 1957 or 1958 title matches with Smyslov.|
However, in "The World Chess Championships of 1957 and 1958", by Harry Golombek, he states that Botvinniks's seconds for the 1957 match were Averbakh and Goldberg, and just Goldberg for the 1958 match.
In addition to writing a book on these matches, Golombek was in attendance as an International Judge.
Perhaps Averbakh and Goldberg were seconds in name only. Does anybody have additional information regarding Botvinnik's use or not use of seconds in the 1957 & 1958 title matches?
|Sep-17-09|| ||suenteus po 147: <<Ch3ckmate: what meaning or tasks does the "second" have?> code13: The second's main task was to help with analysis. In particular adjournment analysis.> Actually, the second's main task is to fetch cheese sandwiches and beer :)|
|Apr-05-10|| ||thegoodanarchist: <suenteus po 147:
Actually, the second's main task is to fetch cheese sandwiches and beer :)>
Bent Larsen said, "Mayny people don't understand the role of a second. Their most important function is to bring their player milk and cheese sandwiches. This is what Edmonson did for Fischer".
-- "How to Get Better at Chess: Chess Masters on Their Art", pp. 65-66
|Apr-24-11|| ||bronkenstein: <Their most important function is to bring their player milk and cheese sandwiches> :)|
BTW Botvinnik´s finest game of the match , in his opinnion , was 13th , and almost no kibitzing there ...?
I tried to remember some of the comments on that one from his autobiography , and paraphrase them there atleast .
|Jun-10-11|| ||AVRO38: This was the first decisive title match in 20 years. Smyslov actually winning a title match before Botvinnik.|
|Jun-16-11|| ||AVRO38: This is also the first World Championship match without a Queen's Gambit game!|