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|Jul-01-07|| ||orio24: Very convincing victory for Kramnik. It will be very interesting in Mexico. It seems he is at this moment real WC, and the top favorite.|
|Jul-01-07|| ||Marmot PFL: Kramnik won one less game than the other seven players combined. Certainly Leko and Anand were trying just as hard to win (Gelfand and Carlsen less so it seemed).|
|Jul-01-07|| ||suenteus po 147: It should also be noted in Kramnik's favor that he tied for least draws in this tournament.|
|Jul-01-07|| ||square dance: great tournament by kramnik. the fact that he's finished ahead of anand in both classical tournaments they've played in this year should make him the slight, albeit clear favorite in mexico city. at least as far as that two horse raced is concerned.|
|Jul-01-07|| ||wolfmaster: Expectedly, Kramnik wins.|
|Jul-01-07|| ||ahmadov: <orio24: Very convincing victory for Kramnik. It will be very interesting in Mexico. It seems he is at this moment real WC, and the top favorite.> I wonder what Topalov and Danailov think about this situation now...|
|Jul-01-07|| ||chancho: He'll be preparing himself for the next two months for Mexico. If he can stay healthy (and we know he'll be very meticulous in his preparations) then he has a good chance of winning the event.|
|Jul-01-07|| ||notyetagm: <square dance: great tournament by kramnik. the fact that he's finished ahead of anand in both classical tournaments they've played in this year should make him the slight, albeit clear favorite in mexico city. at least as far as that two horse raced is concerned.>|
Yes, the bookmakers are going to have to change the odds to make Kramnik the favorite at Mexico City. Anand just does not get it done when it counts the way Kramnik does.
|Jul-01-07|| ||Kain3: <Ybrevo: I admire Peter Leko´s fighting spirit in this game. Last round, nothing much to gain and time-trouble. I hope he brings that spirit with him to Mexico in the Autumn.>|
It is said that he goes after the full point more often, a change that was really needed in Leko's style. This was evident in the WC qualifiers where Peter tried to win most of his matches, even with black and often in situations where he could drawed easily.
|Jul-01-07|| ||Sneaky: Well, Kramnik won Dortmund by whatever criteria you choose to apply. He had the most wins, the highest score, he simply played the best chess.|
|Jul-01-07|| ||chessmoron: Is Dortmund not interesting to everyone? The pages are less than last year. Maybe there's less trolls here not to bash on Kramnik "short draws" technique. Or everyone is busy vacationing or lounging on some striptease bar while their wife stays at home.|
|Jul-01-07|| ||brankat: <<Sneaky> <Well, Kramnik won Dortmund by whatever criteria you choose to apply. He had the most wins, the highest score, he simply played the best chess.>.|
This sums it up :-)
|Jul-01-07|| ||brankat: <cm> <Or everyone is busy vacationing or lounging on some striptease bar while their wife stays at home.>|
How do You know they stay at home? :-)
|Jul-01-07|| ||chessmoron: CIA businesses. Very confidential.|
|Jul-01-07|| ||Timex: http://www.fide.com/ratings/topstat...
Anand consolidates his no.1 position while Kramnik and Topalov drop.
Note: Carlsen is a super GM!!
Adams not a super GM!!
Chucky is No.4
My keyboard is not working for me. :(
|Jul-01-07|| ||Kain3: <Adams not a super GM!!>|
Something is not right with his rating, there are two Michael Adamses in the top 100, one at number 14 and one at number 25.
|Jul-01-07|| ||fgh: <Is Dortmund not interesting to everyone? The pages are less than last year. Maybe there's less trolls here not to bash on Kramnik "short draws" technique. Or everyone is busy vacationing or lounging on some striptease bar while their wife stays at home.>|
Hehehe I really enjoyed this post :-)
|Jul-02-07|| ||gokuson: so what/when is the next super tournament ?|
|Jul-02-07|| ||Hot Logic: Mexico and a super tournament it will be.|
|Jul-02-07|| ||iron maiden: Spare a thought for Biel, too; it starts in three weeks and has Radjabov, Grischuk, Carlsen and Polgar. http://www.bielchessfestival.ch/cms/|
|Jul-02-07|| ||collodi: Only 7 decisive games out of 25!!! I realize grandmasters are more likely to draw, and perhaps super-grandmasters to do so even more, but this drawish tendency in the long run is death for generating spectator interest in such tournaments. Is there any serious conversation these days in the chess community, especially among the governing bodies, about ways to reduce this deadening trend?|
|Jul-02-07|| ||kellmano: At least the draws here were reasonably fighting on the whole. If you do not like draws, I suggest you do not visit the Basna tournament!|
If you think about the good old days when there was a match to establish the WC, seven decisive games out of 25 would be fine.
|Jul-02-07|| ||acirce: I'm not crazy about the thought that the chess world would have to please people who so lack understanding of chess that they seriously think there is something wrong with draws. Chess doesn't have to adapt to get "popular" by attempting to get the nod from such people and shouldn't. It's like saying classical music should be more like rock music. Why should it? Let people who like rock listen to rock. Let people who hate draws take up shogi.|
|Jul-02-07|| ||Karpova: There's nothing wrong with draws and there were almost no short draws. Many of them were quite exciting and entertaining.|
And the fear of draws putting an end to chess - it existed already in Capablanca's time...
I prefer a game like Leko vs Mamedyarov, 2007 (draw)
over Mayfield vs Trinks, 1959 (win) any time.
|Jul-02-07|| ||YouRang: Unfortunately, there is a tendency in many people to regard decisive games as "exciting" and draws as "boring".|
The truth, of course, is that the game's outcome has nothing to do with it being exciting or boring.
What makes chess exciting:
1. How well and hard fought the game is played.
2. The observer's ability to comprehend and appreciate the ideas behind the moves.
I think that it's point #2 that is the problem. People don't really understand what's going on in a high-level game, so they focus solely on the outcome.
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