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Dortmund Sparkassen 2005 Tournament

Arkadij Naiditsch5.5/9(+3 -1 =5)[view games]
Loek van Wely5/9(+3 -2 =4)[view games]
Peter Svidler5/9(+1 -0 =8)[view games]
Etienne Bacrot5/9(+3 -2 =4)[view games]
Veselin Topalov5/9(+3 -2 =4)[view games]
Vladimir Kramnik4.5/9(+2 -2 =5)[view games]
Michael Adams4.5/9(+2 -2 =5)[view games]
Peter Leko4/9(+2 -3 =4)[view games]
Emil Sutovsky3.5/9(+1 -3 =5)[view games]
Peter Heine Nielsen3/9(+1 -4 =4)[view games] Chess Event Description
Dortmund Sparkassen 2005

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 page 1 of 2; games 1-25 of 45  PGN Download
Game  ResultMoves Year Event/LocaleOpening
1. Adams vs Topalov 1-055 2005 Dortmund Sparkassen 2005C43 Petrov, Modern Attack
2. Leko vs Van Wely 1-055 2005 Dortmund Sparkassen 2005B31 Sicilian, Rossolimo Variation
3. Kramnik vs Svidler ½-½25 2005 Dortmund Sparkassen 2005B44 Sicilian
4. P H Nielsen vs Bacrot 1-036 2005 Dortmund Sparkassen 2005D15 Queen's Gambit Declined Slav
5. Naiditsch vs Sutovsky 1-028 2005 Dortmund Sparkassen 2005B33 Sicilian
6. Sutovsky vs Kramnik 1-051 2005 Dortmund Sparkassen 2005C65 Ruy Lopez, Berlin Defense
7. Svidler vs P H Nielsen ½-½43 2005 Dortmund Sparkassen 2005C42 Petrov Defense
8. Topalov vs Naiditsch 1-027 2005 Dortmund Sparkassen 2005D37 Queen's Gambit Declined
9. Leko vs Adams ½-½21 2005 Dortmund Sparkassen 2005C88 Ruy Lopez
10. Van Wely vs Bacrot 1-047 2005 Dortmund Sparkassen 2005E97 King's Indian
11. Bacrot vs Svidler ½-½38 2005 Dortmund Sparkassen 2005A40 Queen's Pawn Game
12. Adams vs Van Wely 0-154 2005 Dortmund Sparkassen 2005B81 Sicilian, Scheveningen, Keres Attack
13. Kramnik vs Topalov 1-041 2005 Dortmund Sparkassen 2005E00 Queen's Pawn Game
14. P H Nielsen vs Sutovsky ½-½56 2005 Dortmund Sparkassen 2005D87 Grunfeld, Exchange
15. Naiditsch vs Leko 1-059 2005 Dortmund Sparkassen 2005B31 Sicilian, Rossolimo Variation
16. Van Wely vs Svidler ½-½52 2005 Dortmund Sparkassen 2005D86 Grunfeld, Exchange
17. Adams vs Naiditsch ½-½37 2005 Dortmund Sparkassen 2005B90 Sicilian, Najdorf
18. Sutovsky vs Bacrot 0-131 2005 Dortmund Sparkassen 2005C92 Ruy Lopez, Closed
19. Leko vs Kramnik ½-½25 2005 Dortmund Sparkassen 2005B46 Sicilian, Taimanov Variation
20. Topalov vs P H Nielsen ½-½34 2005 Dortmund Sparkassen 2005D63 Queen's Gambit Declined, Orthodox Defense
21. Kramnik vs Adams ½-½58 2005 Dortmund Sparkassen 2005C91 Ruy Lopez, Closed
22. Svidler vs Sutovsky ½-½29 2005 Dortmund Sparkassen 2005B31 Sicilian, Rossolimo Variation
23. Naiditsch vs Van Wely ½-½60 2005 Dortmund Sparkassen 2005B42 Sicilian, Kan
24. P H Nielsen vs Leko 0-160 2005 Dortmund Sparkassen 2005E06 Catalan, Closed, 5.Nf3
25. Bacrot vs Topalov ½-½93 2005 Dortmund Sparkassen 2005A56 Benoni Defense
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Jul-21-05  pantlko: <Montreal1666>

1. Van Wely 8
2. Leko 4
3. Topalov 10
4/5. Bacrot/Svidler 9+9
6. Kramnik 10
7/8. Adams Naiditsch 10+3
9. Nielsen 9
10. Sutovsky 9

The total is 81....shared 1st position!!!!!!....whose prediction this is?

Jul-21-05  Montreal1666: <pantlko:> Thanks. That was one of the possibilities for WannaBe (who has tied for 1st). Can you do this one too please:

1. Leko
2. Topalov
3. Svidler
4. Bacrot
5. Kramnik
6. Adams
7. Sutovsky
8. Van Wely
9. Nielsen
10. Naiditsch

Jul-21-05  pantlko: <Montreal1666>

1. Leko 3
2. Topalov 9
3. Svidler 10
4. Bacrot 9
5. Kramnik 9
6. Adams 10
7. Sutovsky 8
8. Van Wely 5
9. Nielsen 9
10. Naiditsch 1

Total is 73

Jul-21-05  Montreal1666: <pantlko:> Thanks. See you
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  lostemperor: Checking on me aren't you <Montreal1666> heheheh.

<pantlko> I'm very happy to see you know the calculating method ;) I might just need someone who can help or replace me sometimes and you are a candidate! But you prove I was right. <Montreal1666> was trying to prove I was wrong and that a shared standing prediction would be advantegeous to a non-shared one. Saying that one of the possibilities of WannaBe would result in 81 points also was not the result he was hoping for :). Assuming Adams got 9 and Naiditsch 4 there, your calculations were perfect and resulted in 81 points.

But <Montreal1666> that second format I gave of WannaBe's non shared standing prediction, would have resulted in 79 points what is just what you wanted to hear, right ;). I'm afraid I litterally did a number on you! Mistakenly really! I just realize it now. Like I said I was too quick to post that then and I did not really calculate the numbers.

WannaBe's prediction
not shared (format 2)
1. Van Wely 8
2. Leko 4
3. Topalov 10
4. Svidler 9
5. Bacrot 8
6. Kramnik 10
7. Naiditsch 4
8. Adams 8
9. Nielsen 9
10. Sutovsky 9

That's 79 points assuming he would have put Nielsen ahead of Sutovski if he may not make a shared standing prediction (and that is a big if).

Jul-21-05  Medusa: So, someone interested in telling wich was his favorite game of the tournament?????

mine is Van Wely vs Topalov, 2005

Jul-21-05  pantlko: <lostemperor> ok.. i was wrong there..adams got only 9 and naidistch 4.

<I'm very happy to see you know the calculating method ;) I might just need someone who can help or replace me sometimes and you are a candidate!> thnks .pls do not hesitate whenever u need any help.

Jul-21-05  Montreal1666: <lostemperor> I was actually testing <pantlko:> to see if he will make a good replacement for you!!!!!.
Jul-22-05  pantlko: lol.............
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  lostemperor: Here finally the results of the final standings prediction game 2005 after 4 tournaments

Sorry that it took some time. I was kind of busy (and not just here at Thanks for your patience. It was exciting and fun for me and I hope for you too.

First place, it may not have slipped your mind, is TIMER*! Congratulations!

16/3 TIMER*
15/3 Troewa*
14/4 Phoenix, Vishyfan
12/3 Annie K.
11/3 fgh*
11/4 Firebyrd* iron maiden*
10 SnoopDogg, WannaBe
10/4 suenteus po 147*, percyblakeney
9/3 bobbyboomer*
8/1 Like a GM
8/2 Neto71*, Chris00nj*,
8/3 gadfly**, assasinator
8/4 acirce
7/1 Montreal1666
7/2. Appaz*, 810609
7/3 Dionyseus
7/4 Elo
6/1 squaredance*, matrix, moonlitknight,
6/2 Shams
6/4 lostemperor*
5/1 jahhaj*, Joshka*, Neto71*, RayMayard*, tanginamo*, tatnho*, thebeginner*, Yannis*, sheaf*, balthez 5/2 OneBadDog*, Sneaky*, Catfriend 5/3 cade*

4/1 tamud*, gladiator367
4/2 child of my tears*, legend*, ranchogrande amuralid, backwardevelopement, kubis, Paul123,

3/1 boganel*, tatnho* TheRaptor*, TylerD* aragorn69, BurningSun cade3, goosey, isolatedpawn, shortsight, tldr3, pyryk pekpekAdik, scorpionfrog, ThePawn 3/2 Ezzy*, farim11*, offramp*, yoozum*, jafar, Kolobok, Nakosonorense, pantlko, PinkPanther , pretendyourlying, Robin01, 3/3 radu stancu*, AgentRgent, where is my mind 3/4 cu8sfan, betsson

2/1 champsupernova , DaveMurray, JimBean Deepfritz8.0 pretendyourlying, weepingwarrior, willc21 2/2 mtolay, 2/3 AdrianP, The Slid

1/1 Mr.siffler*, abaduba, aggresivechess, ahmadov, crumpy, elcliderc,, karpova, r7justin, stevesteve22, GBknight, Dodus, Fulkrum, InfinityCircuit, Ingolf, mulondabl, paradigm, refutor, Ron, sonofabishop, THEpawn, tsj2000, zarra, zorro 1/2 hintza, MinorPieceActivity, moroisthebest, sandyobrien, yourbrilliance.

* correct on a tournament winner prediction

If there is a mistake I will hear from you. And indeed, next tournament will be Fide's worldchampionship tournament in September!

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  Annie K.: Wow, how did I make it to fifth place?! Kewl! :D

Thanks, <lostemperor>! :)

Jul-22-05  Montreal1666: <Annie K.> You are the best!!!

Going back to HP, Why has been in such big success? Hasn't there been many many classics childern books involving magic?

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  Annie K.: Um, nope, only fifth best, at least at this time, and in this tournament. ;)

<Going back to HP, Why has been in such big success? Hasn't there been many many classics childern books involving magic?>

Sure, but HP is not your average fairy tale. For one thing, Jo Rowling has an excellent sense of humor - those books are FUNNY!!! And she has all the other ingredients for a good read right, too. :) You really should give it a try - maybe from the beginning this time? ;)

Another thing about this series is, that the level rises with each book, along with the protagonist's age (each book covers one year). So by HP4, for example, it's more teenage literature than children's, anyway. However, it is fun right from the beginning. :)

Jul-22-05  Montreal1666: <Annie K.:> Ok so you are saying the similar past books are not as funny. Thanks. If you ever decide to write a summary of the HP1, we will all read it with pleasure!!!
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  Annie K.: That I don't want to do, because I would rather people read it for themselves. ;)
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  TIMER: <lostemperor> Thanks for the congratulations.

I enjoy these events, and I am especially looking forward to the most important tournament of all, the (FIDE)World Championship in September!

Jul-27-05  fgh: What? I ended up 5th (or 6th)? Maybe I'am not so bad in making predictions afterall :-)
Jul-28-05  witty: Can someone answer my following question:

If there are queens and kings on board and white has one extra pawn on e5, is the game a draw or win for white, or else draw or win depends on kings or queens position?

Jul-28-05  Montreal1666: <witty:> you should post this question on Kibitzer's cafe.
Jul-30-05  Queens Gambit: I was wondering wich game received the prize to the brilliance game????
Jan-14-06  iron maiden: The dates and format of the 2006 edition of Dortmund were just announced on the homepage of the Aeroflot Open.

<As in the three previous tournaments, the organizers of AEROFLOT OPEN 2006 and the super tournament in Dortmund have agreed that the winner of A1 tournament in Moscow will be invited to play in Dortmund from 23 July to 5 August 2006. This year a two-round round-robin tournament of six players (category XIX) will be held.>


Jan-14-06  Mameluk: Mhm, bad news for chess and mainly for top chessplayers. They won´t have again where to play, A winner, Naiditsch and only 4 spots more with almost 20 elite players...
Jan-14-06  diction: yes, a decision like that goes somewhat against the times when there are more and more players in the elite
Jun-30-06  suenteus po 147: It seems things have changed slightly since the last post. Rather than six players, this year's Dortmund will feature eight players, but in a single round robin tournament rather than a double. Isn't this extremely low? There will only be 28 games played by the end.
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