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|Feb-16-06|| ||yalie: <As I´ve already wrote, this rule is far from being stupid. Rublevsky, Sutovsky, Bologan and Jobava are big fighters who go for a win even with black. For me, Rublevsky is better class than Filippov, and I was glad he won. And finally, statistics published year or 2 ago clearly showed, that players who had 5 whites were much more succesful in general in the tournament.>|
yes white is statistically better .. but it is not clear to me that the statistical difference is enough to overcome a weak progressive score like Bologan's this time or Rublevsky in 2003. Clearly Filippov was the class of Aeroflot 2003. Yes, Bologan, Rublevsky, Sutovsky are big fighters with black ... but what will happen if you saddle them with 5 whites? Wouldnt they be at a disadvantage if the tie break was games played with black? I like Jobava's play and think he probably has more grounds for the win (although he lost teh head to head to Mamedyarov), but I still cant agree with Bologan being ahead of Mamedyarov and Sasikiran.
|Feb-16-06|| ||yalie: some links to my above argument:
"So Rublevsky, Vaganian, and Filippov all tied for first. Of the three, Filippov had a better Buchgolz tie break score for progress and performance. But Vaganian and Rublevsky each played five games with Black, and Filippov only four, and color distribution was the main tie-breaking factor at the Aeroflot Open this year. Does this rule make sense?
One strong Russian grandmaster, although he is a friend of Rublevsky’s, said that he considers Filippov to be the just winner."
|Feb-16-06|| ||yalie: Regarding Filippov's credentials for the title ... he had the best progressive score, faced the toughest opoonents, and beat Rublevsky in their head to head match (with black no less!) Any tie break other than the number of blacks would have put Filippov first.|
|Feb-16-06|| ||notyetagm: Bologan showed the strength of the Swiss Gambit this year.|
|Feb-16-06|| ||refutor: 9 rounds is easier for pairing purposes
with 10 rounds in an open tournament, pairing the last round so everybody ends up with an even amount of white's and black's is terribly painful
mamedyarov played a powerful game today IMPO (in my patzer opinion)
|Feb-16-06|| ||BIDMONFA: Aeroflot Open (2006)|
Champion - BAADUR JOBAVA, Sub-Champion - VIKTOR BOLOGAN
|Feb-17-06|| ||PhilFeeley: The website for this tournament was terrible. The games were often unavilable, at least for me, possibly because of server overload. Ditto for seeing the results at any time. Now the site doesn't even have the pgn file for download. The one I got yesterday doesn't have round 9. Or the games from the A2 group.|
|Feb-17-06|| ||Pawsome: Have to agree with <PhilFeeley>, the site sucked, but apparently Aeroflot Air provides dismal service too. At least they're consistent. And, how about the performance of Khalifman, who drew all of his games, the longest of which was a whopping 32 moves! He gets the wimp award for demonstrating a complete lack of fighting spirit.|
|Feb-18-06|| ||lostemperor: You have to go easy on those guys. It was -30 C again this winter in Moscow at the first week of the tournament. It was fortunate if anything worked. We now go to about +30 C in Morelia. That's almost a 60 degrees difference:)|
|Feb-18-06|| ||Petrosian63: Akopian's two losses to Georgiev in the last two tournaments costed him first place.|
|Feb-19-06|| ||Bobak Zahmat: It is pity they did not broadcast the games from other sections as well. Maybe next year's improvement!?|
|Feb-21-06|| ||larrewl: Does anyone know where I can get the pgn's for all the Aeroflot 2006 Tournament A1?|
|Feb-22-06|| ||Bobak Zahmat: <larrewl> You can get the pgn's at the official website, here is the link http://www.aeroflotchess.com/games/...|
|Feb-22-06|| ||VishyFan: <Bobak Zahmat: <larrewl> You can get the pgn's at the official website, here is the link> ha ha ha, all they have there is the first 29 boards of A1 section for each round......, that is all...|
|Feb-22-06|| ||Jafar219: <larrewl> It is here- www.ruschess.com|
|Feb-22-06|| ||Bobak Zahmat: <VishyFan> Really? Sorry I thought all the games were available.|
|Feb-23-06|| ||larrewl: <Jafar219> Only 245 games are listed at ruschess while the official site mentioned by <Bobak Zahmat> gives only 261. I guess the organizers of Aeroflot 2006 just weren't that organized. Thanks for your efforts.|
|Feb-23-06|| ||VishyFan: <larrewl> I already told you, they have 29 top board games from A1 section for each round, that makes it 29*9 = 261, that's it....|
|Feb-23-06|| ||larrewl: <VishyFan> You didn't notice that I was talking to <Jafar219>. I had read your email and also saw that the 1st two games of Aeroflot 2006 winner Baadur Jobava and the 1st three games of Kosteniuk were not included because they may have not been on the first 29 boards in the beginning. I'm probably vainly hoping to find a complete A1 pgn. :)|
|Feb-24-06|| ||VishyFan: <larrewl: <VishyFan> You didn't notice that I was talking to <Jafar219>.> But I was talking to you... :D|
<I'm probably vainly hoping to find a complete A1 pgn. :) > yes u are, there is no hope of getting one...., i tried and gave it up, but keep trying and do let me know if u find any, i'm also interested in the games of A2 section.... :)
|Feb-24-06|| ||EmperorAtahualpa: The games from the other sections than A1 are still not published!|
They are nowhere to be found on the official website www.aeroflotchess.com.
What kind of stupid tournament is this!?
|Feb-25-06|| ||Bobak Zahmat: <EmperorAtahualpa> Chill down man! |
If they haven't already published the games, the probably won't do it anymore. It is a bit sad ofcourse.
|Feb-25-06|| ||EmperorAtahualpa: <Chill down man!>
<Bobak Zahmat> Sorry, you're right. :) I was just annoyed with this tournament because I thought the coverage was extremely bad. The official tournament website was full of errors and they only publish a small part of the games, while so many other important players were playing too!
Isn't it silly when such a huge amount of people follow chess through the internet that they don't publish the games online?
Now only the players themselves and the tournament directors know the moves played in these games, so there's a big chance these games will go lost forever!
|Feb-25-06|| ||Bobak Zahmat: <EmperorAtahualpa> Ofcourse you are quite right. At Aeroflot the biggist amount GM, IM en FM are playing, so it is quite pity that our Russian friends do not take care of publishing those played games. I really hope they can improve it next year. |
|Oct-05-06|| ||samsal27: <Have to agree with <PhilFeeley>, the site sucked, but apparently Aeroflot Air provides dismal service too. At least they're consistent.> LOL!|
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