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|Feb-21-06|| ||Bobak Zahmat: <Chesstosterone> You are quite right. Aronian is an exceptional talent. He can totally change the game from a losing (worse) position to (an almost) winning position. I'm happy we have seen this youngman in action during World Cup, Corus and now in Linares. I think he we'll become one of the favourite players of the audience in the nearby future.|
|Feb-21-06|| ||DutchDunce: Just noticed that there are only two exclusively-e4 openers in the Linares crowd this time (the two Peters). We might have a record percentage of non-e4 openings in this tourney.|
|Feb-21-06|| ||originalface: <Ragh> I'm pretty sure Topalov is 'here to stay' (2800+), I'm sure even Kasparov would agree. Actually, I would be surprised, even at this stage, if Topalov doesn't win this tournament.|
|Feb-21-06|| ||Dr.know: Ragh: Otherwise, how can you explain the fact that Anand was consistently in top 3 over the past 10 years, whereas Toplov struggled to be within top 10 for most of that period. |
-->Anand is 6 years older than Topalov. Time changes. Topalov is the best know.
|Feb-21-06|| ||refutor: maybe topalov just doesn't like mexico? ;)|
|Feb-21-06|| ||larrewl: Where can I find the results of all the Linares rounds? Thanks in advance for your help!|
|Feb-21-06|| ||MeatGrinder: <Ragh: Otherwise, how can you explain the fact that Anand was consistently in top 3 over the past 10 years, whereas Toplov struggled to be within top 10 for most of that period.>|
Topalov has been a top 5 player for many years.
|Feb-21-06|| ||PhilFeeley: <larrewl: Where can I find the results of all the Linares rounds? >
Try this: http://linares.soloajedrez.com/|
|Feb-21-06|| ||kinggambits: I dont think its fair to compare Anand and Topo. These two players are the best, its due to them chess has found a new life,recently.For someone who has destroyed Svidler, Moro, Leko and others in St Luis. I wouldnt be surprised if Topo comes back strong in the second leg|
|Feb-21-06|| ||4daluvofchess: <s4life: This is slippery slope at best, Topalov has never been close to 2800 before, for more than a year now, he's been around 2800 until finally surpassing it last October, there has been an obvious improvement in his overall game.... your argument fails to mention this.>
True, but he also failed to mention that anand has also crossed 2800...
I don't think Anand is the better player at this moment, but if they were both to die (God forbid) one would have to say Anand has been the stronger player overall (i.e greater life accompishments). Same with Kramnik, for that matter... although my views on the topic have not changed. |
<kinggambits> lol I said "St. Louis" myself in a post some time ago <San Luis>
|Feb-21-06|| ||Montreal1666: Anand is in his late 30's and already past his peak. Topalov is 30 and still has room for improvement. He can be the World Champion for many years.|
|Feb-21-06|| ||ahmadov: <originalface> <Actually, I would be surprised, even at this stage, if Topalov doesn't win this tournament.> I am sorry to disappoint you but Topalov will NOT win this tournament.|
|Feb-21-06|| ||you vs yourself: <ahmadov> Topalov is only 1.5 pts behind with 11 rounds remaining. You know how many rounds he took to make up a deficit of 1.5 against Kasparov? 3!! Look at the leader board here: Peter and Peter. Both are easily content with taking a draw and not losing from now on. It's a good strategy that'll get him in the top 3, but it gives Topalov a chance to win the tournament. Unless the two Peters and Topalov play uncharacteristic chess, the tournament favorite is still Topalov.|
|Feb-21-06|| ||ahmadov: <you vs yourself> Yes, I understand that it is early to predict, but I think Svidler and Ivanchuk will do their best not to evaporate their chances. At the same time, it is good that Topalov is behind because this creates greater rivalry between the leaders. In other words, a very interesting tournament awaits us.|
|Feb-21-06|| ||poorpawn: <Montreal1666: Anand is in his late 30's and already past his peak. Topalov is 30 and still has room for improvement. He can be the World Champion for many years.>
A generalization with "exceptions"|
|Feb-21-06|| ||suenteus po 147: Any word on what tomorrow's live game will be?|
|Feb-21-06|| ||CowardlyKnight: <Anand is in his late 30's and already past his peak.> What indicates that Anand is past his peak? The fact that he currently has the highest rating he has ever achieved? Or perhaps you think the quality of his games has lowered? That might be hard to argue if one looks at the brilliant games he played at corus.|
|Feb-21-06|| ||CowardlyKnight: <suenteus po 147> Of course it has to be Peter Leko VS Vassily Ivanchuk.|
|Feb-21-06|| ||petrovalovski: Truer words were never spoken.|
|Feb-21-06|| ||suenteus po 147: <CowardlyKnight> I hope it is Leko-Ivanchuk. I have a lot riding on that game :)|
|Feb-21-06|| ||SanChess: The tournament is still very open and is difficult to predict a winner at this stage. The best of Topalov and Radjabov is yet to come; Bacrot is playing solid and may start winning anytime; Aronian will win some games and upset any favourite; Leko is showing concentration and ambition; the unpredictable Ivanchuk is keeping watch on his own and Svidler is happy within himself. Who is it gonna be!?|
|Feb-21-06|| ||millangonzalez: do you know a web site, where all the games can be seen live?? Thank you|
|Feb-21-06|| ||TruthHurts: <chesstosterone>, what's missing in your comment is that unlike computers Aronian is often strategically outclassed against the best players in the world while for example hydra was not against Adams... Your comments are right but your post is incomplete as it does not present Aronian obvious weaknesses. |
<Well, after following Corus and now Linares, I have found the following conclusions:>
To be completly objective you should also have observe that he was rarely taking any positional advantage against the top elite (even with white) and so far, in Corus and Linares has not beat any top elite players (in corus he beat players eventually ranked 12,13 and 14 by the way...)...
You should have notice his incapacity to beat the very best players in the world or to generate better positions against them. Your comment is a one-sided. The qualities you described are right and I also always asserted that Aronian had these, but you don't report any of his weaknesses... As a matter of fact when he faces the top 10, top 15, if his opponent does not blunder in time trouble(like against Ivanchuk) he struggles for the draw... You may like his fighting spirit, I do apreciate it also, but it's a shame for any chess fan to admire a player because he mostly takes advantage or try to save his face thanks to his fast play or opponent's blunders...
|Feb-21-06|| ||tsyer: <Truthhurts>, there is no shame in admiring a chess player that is better than 99.999% of all chess players in world, who is better than you, me and most everyone else on this site will ever hope to be.|
|Feb-21-06|| ||TruthHurts: <<Truthhurts>, there is no shame in admiring a chess player that is better >|
"better " is relative", I don't think Aronian is the 4th best player in the world :), like his elo ranking suggests... By the way a "chess" fan should admire great chess and pure style or you're exactly like a soccer supporter only admiring who's winning, chess is an art, it's a shame to admire such a style... By the way admiring is not the best thing a human can achieve lol. idoles, admiring etc is more for fanatics than for supporters. Supporters support objectively, admiring is ridiculous and is for fanatics.
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