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|Sep-10-06|| ||positionalgenius: <aw1988>Its blind to not take age into consideration.|
|Sep-10-06|| ||aw1988: I agree. And it's even more blind to credit age as the only thing.|
|Sep-10-06|| ||positionalgenius: <aw1988>Come on-Leko is in his prime,in his home country,and Karpov is 55.Chess players lose the ability to play great chess at about 45.So Karpov's result was actually much better than many expected.|
|Sep-10-06|| ||aw1988: This is an argument we'll never finish, so I'm dropping it now... I still profusely disagree, of course.|
|Sep-11-06|| ||positionalgenius: <aw1988>OK...|
|Sep-13-06|| ||Chess Classics: <positionalgenius> 45? Kasparov retired at what, 47? Didn't he play some pretty good chess in the last few years of his reign?|
|Sep-13-06|| ||positionalgenius: <chess classics>yes,but he won alot less and made many more draws-except for his finale at Linares 2005,of course.Look at Linares 2003,2004 you see alot of draws.|
|Sep-13-06|| ||Chess Classics: <positionalgenius> This could partly be explained by the onslaught of Topalov, Anand, and co. I don't think that Kasparov got that much worse, I think that chess caught up to him. In 1985, he was 20 years ahead of his time, but he hasn't really progressed that much since.|
|Sep-13-06|| ||positionalgenius: <chess classics>Yes.What about Kramnik?
He was the only one challenging Kasparov in the 1990s.|
|Sep-14-06|| ||Chess Classics: Karpov challenged him in 1990. Short challenged him in 1993. Anand challenged him in 1995. Your point is taken-but I figured if I mentioned Kramnik and Topalov in the same sentance I would start a huge fight. =)|
|Sep-14-06|| ||aw1988: And Shirov also challenged him...|
|Sep-14-06|| ||positionalgenius: <chess classics>LOL.Yes,it would have started a nuclear exchange...:)|
|Oct-01-06|| ||Brown: Kasparov's last dominant year was 2001, when he ripped through the top 3 GM tournaments, taking first place in each.|
Some subtle evidence of his lack of focus on chess (book writing) or slipping in general can be seen in his last classic games against Shirov, where he found himself in some very precarious positions.
|Nov-27-06|| ||WarmasterKron: <Chess players lose the ability to play great chess at about 45.>|
Eh? What about Lasker? Korchnoi? Petrosian? Blackburne? Karpov may be past his prime at 55, but he still has the ability to play great chess.
|Nov-28-06|| ||code13: Smyslov reached the candidates' final in his sixties.|
|Nov-28-06|| ||Maatalkko: Well, he made it past the quarterfinals by winning at roulette...|
|Nov-28-06|| ||code13: Very true but then he won the semi-final.|
|Nov-28-06|| ||Open Defence: < Maatalkko: Well, he made it past the quarterfinals by winning at roulette... > and that was after drawing level with Huebner if I am not mistaken who is no push over....|
|Nov-28-06|| ||Maatalkko: <Open Defence> Agreed, Huebner is a very competent Grandmaster. But still, I think it's funny that they decided a Candidates match with a roulette wheel. Maybe that's how they should have tie-broken the 1951 World Championship, and the Topalov - Kramnik match, and the 2000 U.S. election.|
|Nov-28-06|| ||Brown: <<Chess Classics:> <positionalgenius> 45? Kasparov retired at what, 47?>|
Kasparov was born in '63, so if he retired in '05, and my math skills are up to snuff, that would make him @ 42 when he retired. He hasn't reached 45 yet, much less 47.
|Nov-28-06|| ||Maatalkko: I think Kasparov could come back tomorrow and be the best again with two months prep. That's what I think.|
|Oct-20-08|| ||Woody Wood Pusher: Karpov can still perform at 2700 Elo at the age of 55...amazing!|
|Jun-03-09|| ||minasina: Leko-Anand Rapid Match (2009)|
<Leko-Carlsen> Rapid Match (2008) Carlsen-Leko Rapid Match (2008)
Leko<->Kramnik Rapid Match (2007) Leko vs Kramnik Rapid Match (2007)
Leko-Karpov <Rapid> Match (2006) Leko-Karpov Match (2006)
Leko<->Adams <Rapid> Match (2005) Leko & Adams (2005)
|Dec-16-10|| ||minasina: Leko-Gelfand Match (2010)|
|Jul-25-11|| ||Everett: FWIW, here are some facts to clarify things above.
Kasparov left chess at age 42, and Karpov left competitive WC chess at 48, in 1999 after defending the FIDE titles in '96 (Kamsky) and '98 (Anand).
Through '96, Chessmetrics has Karpov as #2 behind Kasparov, at age 45. His rankings dip quickly after that, however, as he is overtaken by Kramnik, Anand, Ivanchuk and a few others.
To be so good for so long is an amazing testament to both players.
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