Sep-13-06
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| suenteus po 147: I would like to thank <chessgames.com> for constructing this page for the historical information especially, which I think heightens the enjoyment of the games played when we have their context to view them against. |
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| Sep-13-06 |
| dehanne: Steinitz was just crushed in this match. |
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| Sep-13-06 |
| jamesmaskell: Steinitz went mad...cool! I thought it was just Rubenstein and Fischer... 2 Ruy exchange wins by Lasker, thats classy! |
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| Sep-13-06 |
| nikolajewitsch: < jamesmaskell: Steinitz went mad...cool!> Not cool at all! Steintz's end is one of the most tragic episodes in the history of chess! Madness means suffering and misery and is not cool. |
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Sep-13-06
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| percyblakeney: The result of this match didn't only have to do with the age of Steinitz, he was still a formidable opponent also a couple of years later, as his result in the exhausting tournament in Vienna 1898 shows (and I doubt he was hopelessly mad by then...): http://xoomer.alice.it/cserica/scac... Beating an old but still very strong Steinitz with 10-2 is one of many proofs of Lasker's extremely high level of play the years before and after 1900. |
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Sep-13-06
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| paulalbert: I have a question about the pictures used here and the writeup of the 1894 match. Are they purported to be pictures at the actual matches? Both Lasker and Steinitz look younger here than the picture used in the 1894 writeup. I have seen both pictures before, but I'm not sure I've seen a caption. Paul Albert |
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Sep-13-06
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| chessgames.com: If photographs are provided they should be from the actual match. The photo in Lasker-Steinitz World Championship (1894) is from the Montreal games of that match. This photo above, we have come to learn is unfortunately is also from Montreal 1894. We have not been able to locate any photographs from the Moscow match; it is possible that there simply aren't any. |
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| Sep-13-06 |
| jamesmaskell: Love the top banner with linking between matches. Nice and simple. |
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Sep-13-06
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| positionalgenius: <chessgames.com>This site just gets better and better... |
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Sep-13-06
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| Ron: Don't forget that Lakser said that the fact he defeated Steinitz is due to no defect in Steinitz theories.
Lasker considered himself a follow of Steinitz. What a great champion. |
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Sep-14-06
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| whatthefat: Chessmetrics rates this as the 2nd best match performance of all time, behind only Fischer's drubbing of Larsen. Steintiz was indeed past his prime, but still rated 2754 for #4 in the world. |
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| Sep-14-06 |
| lazydaisy: wow. thank you chessgames, this is what i always wanted. great job. |
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| Sep-20-06 |
| Bartleby: <Madness means suffering and misery and is not cool.> I have to say, this choice remark is nearly sig material. Ah, I enjoy surgical removal of context, like organ transplants. Pity that Pillsbury didn't follow up his Hastings tour de force and win 2nd (or 1st!) at Petersburg 1896, considering he was leading in the first half of the event. Damn syphilis! A little change in standing may have given him the cred needed for a title challenge in 1896. Pillsbury's window of optimum strength was a short one (1895--1900 approximately), and 1896 would have been good a year as any. |
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| Jul-28-07 |
| actionhero56: <"More wins for Lasker followed, one after another, and after only 17 games, Lasker retained his title with the tremendous score of 10 to 2 (and 5 draws). Four weeks later, Steinitz's mind went, and he was sent to a psychiatric clinic. He was soon found to be hopelessly mad."> No wonder he lost so bad, he was half-crazy at that point anyway. |
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| Aug-21-07 |
| sanyas: If chess is your life, and you leave it, you go mad. cf. Morphy, Steinitz, Fischer. |
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Aug-21-07
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| Stonehenge: <sanyas> Yes, there's a fine line between genius and insanity. Those players you mention all crossed that line. |
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| Aug-21-07 |
| Petrosianic: Steinit didn't leave chess, he simply lost a title match. Though he was hospitalized after the match, he wasn't exactly "hopelessly" mad. He continued to play chess up through 1899. |
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Feb-27-08
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| Knight13: <Four weeks later, Steinitz's mind went, and he was sent to a psychiatric clinic. He was soon found to be hopelessly mad.> Wow! He must've really hated Lasker. |
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Aug-11-08
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| keypusher: There apparently is a typescript of an unpublished book (annotated by Tarrasch) of this match. From Winter's Chess Notes: <5691. Lasker v Steinitz (C.N. 5687)From Michael Clapham (Ipswich, England):
‘I have a typescript of a book on the second world championship match between Lasker and Steinitz, although no book was ever published on this match. The title page states that the games were taken from Deutsches Wochenschach with annotations by Siegbert Tarrasch. I do not know who compiled the typescript, but there are the occasional “Translator’s Notes” which may provide some clues.’> http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/...
The link has a couple of pictures from the typescript (scroll down). I'd love to see the whole thing. |
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| Oct-23-08 |
| OJC: < Four weeks later, Steinitz's mind went, and he was sent to a psychiatric clinic. He was soon found to be hopelessly mad. > Not only is this nonsense, it doesn't even quote the source correctly. The relevant extract from the link is: < ... In their second championship match, Lasker destroyed Steinitz. He won the first five games with ridiculous ease. Three draws followed and then two more victories for Lasker. It ended with a 10-2 score. The final game was played on January 14, 1897. Four weeks later, Steinitz's mind went and he was sent to a psychiatric clinic. In 1899 he played miserably in the London tournament and shortly thereafter was found to be hopelessly mad. ... > |
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Apr-24-09
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| talisman: Steinitz gets excited, semi-levitates, and starts playing the ivories, when he makes his signature move for the giuoco piano. Lasker was not amused. |
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Lasker-Steinitz World Championship Rematch (1896)
However, before that match could take place, there was one more very strong tournament to get through:
the Nuremberg Tournament in the summer. In addition to Lasker and Steinitz, the line-up included Tarrasch,
Pillsbury, Chigorin, Blackburne and an upcoming star from Vienna by the name of Carl Schlechter. In August of
1896, after 18 intense rounds of chess, Lasker took the top honors at Nuremberg with a score
+12 -3 =3, one of the crowning achievements of his career. Steinitz's sixth place with a score of
+10 -6 =2 was a disappointment, and did not bode well for his chances in the upcoming Moscow match.
