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|Apr-11-10|| ||Petrosianic: <This story is not true.>|
Well, SI wrote it in 1960, so no time for Tal to set the record straight. I wonder where they ever got it in the first place. And I'm more curious as to what happened to Botvinnik's wife, and why she died in (I guess) her 40's. That's pretty rough. Did he ever remarry, I wonder?
|Apr-11-10|| ||Petrosianic: In light of Bronstein's earlier comment, here's a comment from Al Horowitz, who picked Tal to win:|
<Tal plays Bronstein's style, only much better, and absolutely without Bronstein's weaknesses.>
Al opines that it was Bronstein's tendency to tire and blunder that kept him from winning the 1951 match, although to give Botvinnik his due, he hadn't played a game in 3 years when that match started.
|Apr-11-10|| ||A Karpov Fan: these games are amazing|
|Aug-25-10|| ||GrahamClayton: Newsreel footage with Russian commentary:
|Feb-12-11|| ||talisman: <Lev Khariton> that was spot on.|
|Apr-21-11|| ||bronkenstein: <Tal plays Bronstein's style, only much better, and absolutely without Bronstein's weaknesses.>|
IMO Bronstein (esp @ his peak ) is much more complete and well rounded player than Tal of the 1960 .
Misha managed to ´complete´ his style , raising technique and positional strategy while still being able to play brilliant tactical game during his second peak , due to cooperation with Karpov ( they were toping the rating list together briefly at that time ) .
Horowitz was simply blinded by Tal´s winning streak and brilliant games i would say (not that he was alone :)
|Apr-29-11|| ||talisman: THE 2nd most famous championship of all time, 1960...without a 1960 picture.|
|Apr-30-11|| ||kamalakanta: Many of us (myself included) were not aware of Nezhmetdinov's strong influence on Tal's "style" when looking at Tal's games in years past.|
However, after looking at Nezhmetdinov's games, his influence on Tal becomes very obvious. He had a plus score (3-1) against Tal and was one of Tal's seconds during the match in 1960.
|Apr-30-11|| ||M.D. Wilson: <Although this playing style was scorned by ex-World Champion Vasily Smyslov as nothing more than "tricks", Tal convincingly beat every notable grandmaster with his trademark aggression.>|
Ah, Korchnoi, as expected, owned Tal. Spassky wasn't a slouch, either. Almost everyone else, sure.
What I find more amazing is Botvinnik's absolute domination of Tal in 1961; he was like a man prepared, I mean, possessed.
|Apr-30-11|| ||M.D. Wilson: <bronkenstein: <Tal plays Bronstein's style, only much better, and absolutely without Bronstein's weaknesses.>
IMO Bronstein (esp @ his peak ) is much more complete and well rounded player than Tal of the 1960 .|
Misha managed to ´complete´ his style , raising technique and positional strategy while still being able to play brilliant tactical game during his second peak , due to cooperation with Karpov ( they were toping the rating list together briefly at that time ) >
The collaboration between Tal and Karpov in the 1970s hasn't been analysed in great depth, but it was a period of development for both players. Tal taught Karpov the essence of the initiative and when to play dynamically; Karpov's superlative technique and positional mastery helped to foster Tal's 1970s Renaissance, when he was stronger than ever before.
|May-01-11|| ||HeMateMe: What a terrific book, written about this match.|
|Aug-20-12|| ||Eggman: Chessgames.com: for the picture above the caption reads "Tal and Botvinnik, 1958." Is this a mistake? They didn't play any kind of serious game until 1960.|
|Aug-20-12|| ||perfidious: <Eggman> Must be, though I remember reading a story in which Tal somehow managed to learn where Botvinnik was staying on holiday. When young Misha knocked on the door of the cottage, board in hand, Mrs Botvinnik explained that the elder Misha was napping.|
|Aug-25-12|| ||Cemoblanca: Ahhh Misha! 1 of my favorite players of all time & "Super Nez" falls also into this category! Please play a lot of chess in heaven & don't forget to sacrifice! ;0) RIP!|
|Jun-25-14|| ||ACMEKINGKRUSHER: I have just barely started reading TAL's book on the match. It is FABULOUS! I am quite pleased so far with it. Much better than Topalov's "cry-baby" book on his later match.|
|Jun-25-14|| ||penarol: Perhaps I have not read too many chess books, but I think that Tal´s book on the 1960 match is the best chess book I have ever read. I also think that it is not the best book for a chess beginner. Of course that happens with many chess books.|
|Jun-26-14|| ||Petrosianic: Everybody liked the book, but nobody actually has anything good to say about it. Talk about damning with faint praise.|
|Jun-26-14|| ||Olavi: The book is graet, but unfortunately Hanon Russell's translation is poor. Or has a revision been published?|
|Jun-26-14|| ||Petrosianic: Yes, but what's great about it? Nobody seems to know. Is it great analysis, great behind the scenes stuff, great insight, or is it just that the author is popular therefore the book must be good? Generally, if people like a book, they have lots of good things to say about it. If they just say "Yeah, it was good", but not in any specific way, I feel that they really DIDN'T like it much, but are just being polite.|
|Jun-26-14|| ||Olavi: The personality, I would say. He is witty, modest, sarcastic at times, and he gives the impression of being honest. Well you never know about that...|
|Feb-20-15|| ||keypusher: By the way, do we know that the picture at the top is from the 1960 match? Looks like a team event.|
|Feb-20-15|| ||Petrosianic: Tal and Botvinnik only played each other twice outside of their World Championship matches. I can't say 100% that this isn't one of those two games, but I have seen this picture used for this match before, and their ages seem more like early 60's than mid 60's. It could be from the 1961 match, but there's no reason to think that.|
|Feb-20-15|| ||keypusher: <Petrosianic> I googled and found some other 1960 match images that include the guy to Tal's left, so I guess you are right. (Does anyone know who the two men seated beside Tal and Botvinnik are?)|
This is from the 1961 match (it's a less-retouched version of the one on the 1961 match page).
|Feb-20-15|| ||Olavi: A clear indication that this is from one of their matches are the clocks on the wall behind, showing the respective used time. They would not be there in a team match.|
|Feb-20-15|| ||Olavi: Nor would the flags.|
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