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Fischer vs FIDE, 1975
Fischer forfeits.

After defeating Spassky in 1972, Bobby Fischer stopped playing serious chess, turning down several lucrative offers to play in public.

Fischer, circa 1971 In 1974, Fischer's challenger was decided: he was an emerging Russian chess superstar, Anatoly Karpov, who had defeated Korchnoi in the candidate's final to earn him the right to challenge Fischer.

In September, 1973, Fred Cramer, Vice President (Zone 5) of FIDE, proposed that the world championship match be decided on 10 wins, draws not counting. He also proposed that the champion retains his title if it were a 9-9 tie. This became known as the Cramer proposal. Fischer telegrammed FIDE informing them that they should adopt the Cramer proposal.[1]

Opponents of the proposal argued that the unlimited format is impractical, and that the 9-9 rule affords the champion too great of an advantage. Proponents claimed that the proposal would encourage exciting chess (because draws do not count) and that it more accurately determined the better player. Fischer argued the merits of the proposal in a 1974 letter to FIDE:

The first player to win ten games, draws not counting, with unlimited number of games wins the match. If the score is nine wins to nine wins, draws not counting, the champion retains title and the match is declared drawn with the money split equally. Versus the old system of the best of 24 games wins the match (12.5 points) and if 12-12 the match is drawn with the champion retaining the title and prize fund is split equally. Draws do count in this system.

The unlimited match favors the better player. This is the most important point, because in the limited game system the match outcome can turn on a very low number of wins, giving the weaker player a chance to "luck out." Also, in the limited game system the player who takes a game or two lead has an advantage out of all proportion. This creates an added element of chance. The player who wins the match should be the player who plays best over the long run, not the player who jumps off to an early lead.[2]

In June, 1974, the FIDE Congress in Nice approved the 10-win regulation and the elimination of draws from the scoring, but imposed a 36-game limit and rejected the 9-9 proposal. On June 27, 1974, Fischer sent a telegram from Pasadena, California to the FIDE Congress:
As I made clear in my telegram to the FIDE delegates, the match conditions I proposed were non-negotiable ... FIDE has decided against my participation in the 1975 World Chess Championship. I therefore resign my FIDE World Championship title.

In March, 1975, an extraordinary FIDE Congress was held in Bergen, Netherlands, and it was agreed to have an unlimited number of world championship games, but still refused the 9-9 rule (32 votes for it, and 35 votes against it). [3] Fischer, unwilling to budge, refused to defend his title.

In Karpov's memoirs he recounts how he was disappointed to not have a chance to become champion in the traditional manner:

I don't know how Fischer feels about it, but I consider it a huge loss that he and I never played our match. I felt like the child who has been promised a wonderful toy and has it offered to him but then, at the last moment, it's taken away.[4]

On April 3rd, 1975, Karpov was declared the 12th World Champion.

FOOTNOTES

  1. Robert James Fischer, by Bill Wall
    2 Bobby Fischer letter to FIDE, 1974
    3 Robert James Fischer, by Bill Wall
    4 Karpov on Karpov: Memoirs of a Chess World Champion, by Anatoly Karpov, Athenuem Press, 1992.

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Apr-01-17
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  Joshka: <Clement Fraud> Well if you had chess warriors like Kasparov/Karpov running FIDE then you would. But not criminals like Kirsan!! Also, young players today are very lazy and do not want to commit to a long grueling schedule. The younger generation is interested in quick/fast playing. Also more of the traditionalists are just a dying breed, it's a new world. They'll probably come a time when rapid will just replace the classical time controls even al together. But your preaching to the choir when you talk about the long traditional match!! AMEN!! THANKS!!
Apr-01-17
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  Joshka: <Clement Fraud> <non-events like Carlsen-Karjakin> Yes, also, this younger generation grew up WITHOUT winners and losers. It's not politically correct to be a loser nor winner. This way neither player really loses, nor wins. Losers get trophies in schools now JUST for participation...so "Non Event" is actually what they prefer!!!!!
Apr-02-17
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  Sally Simpson: Hi John,

" Why do a lot of people try to be witty about an event that very regretfully never happened?"

it did happen....in another time zone.

Sometimes some of the posts from that time zone appear on here.

You probably do not know this, but in that other time zone you and me are married to each other.

PS: In our married time zone Fischer Won in 1975 and lost to Tal in 1978. It's an exciting Time Zone for Chess that one. (Korchnoi does not defect, everyone else does.)

Apr-02-17  john barleycorn: < Sally Simpson: ...

You probably do not know this, but in that other time zone you and me are married to each other. ...>

Please, don't remind me of that misstep in my life.

Apr-02-17  Howard: Are you two still legally married ?
Apr-02-17
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  Joshka: <Clement Fraud> Also, with regards to long dramatic matches, the days of good vs evil seem to be over in World Chess Championship Matches.

These kids are all buds/Facebook 'like' friends, everybody knows everybody's personal stuff....it's just way different environment.....I see Lebron James hugging his opponents in professional basketball....one day in the not too distant future, the combatants in a chess championship will be slapping each other on the backs, high fives and all that happy bs.....oh well

May-06-17
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  offramp: If the rematch rule had been in existence 1966 to 1977 (which it wasn't), would Fischer have been able to ask for a rematch in 1976?
May-06-17
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  thegoodanarchist: < offramp: If the rematch rule had been in existence 1966 to 1977 (which it wasn't), would Fischer have been able to ask for a rematch in 1976?>

I award this comment the title "Question of the Day"

May-06-17
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  thegoodanarchist: Examine all moves that smite, because these smite be the best ones.
May-06-17
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  offramp: I think there should be a page for the 1976 Karpov-Fischer Rematch.
May-07-17
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  Absentee: <offramp: If the rematch rule had been in existence 1966 to 1977 (which it wasn't), would Fischer have been able to ask for a rematch in 1976?>

Nope.

May-07-17  Olavi: Excellent angle, offramp. Just think what a psychological ploy: he upset Spassky in game two, now he goes one better! Well I don't think it would have worked against Karpov, already a man of steel...
May-07-17  morfishine: I thought we settled all this: Fischer was burnt out, he was simply tired of chess

He surrendered the titled under a cloak of condescending righteousness

Fischer was not afraid of any mortal over the board and anybody who thinks so should check themselves into the nearest lunatic asylum

That pretty much covers it

*****

May-13-17
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  thegoodanarchist: <morfishine: I thought we settled all this: Fischer was burnt out, he was simply tired of chess

He surrendered the titled under a cloak of condescending righteousness

Fischer was not afraid of any mortal over the board and anybody who thinks so should check themselves into the nearest lunatic asylum>

What if two lunatic asylums are equidistant from these people?

"Lunatics Are Us" is ten blocks West of here, but "Bob's Lunatic House" is ten blocks South.

May-13-17
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  Joshka: Fischer mentions on many occasions (Cavet interviews, ect.) that ONCE he won the title, he'd concentrate on other ares of his life.......he did just that. Although he expected to play more matches, he presumed opponents would not duck him, and he be granted Champion spoils that ALL SOVIET Champions enjoyed. His only miscalculation was that he forgot the Soviets still controlled World Professional Chess!!! Thus they would do ANYTHING to bring him down!! And so they did.

The dishonest MSM in many ways felt they were responsible for Fischer's rise, and they were determined as well to keep him in check with constant unfair publicity. Much the same as to what is happening to our President. Both New Yorkers/brash/confidant/the peoples Champion/ the parallels are so uncanny for anyone willing to see. Big difference with Bobby, as a fighter one would think he'd just hang onto it, he just did it his own way, and abdicated it. The MSM knows it's got a tiger by the tail, cause our President will not let it go!! In fact this is a ratings bonanza for the MSM. Champions that resign will cause the public to lose interest. But the MSM they actually welcome the fight, cause the ratings go thru the roof!!! What a glorious time to be alive!!! For you young folks who have no idea what is was like with the brash Fischer taking on the MSM/interviews/being MISQUOTED/ all that is happening with our President now, is very familiar in many ways to what was going on with Fischer.

May-18-17  The Boomerang: "I've seen a lot of posts on this page comparing the respective records of Karpov and Fischer against certain GMs and I'll just say this: Rudolf Spielmann was the only player to have played at least ten tournament or match games against the adult Capablanca with an even score (+2 -2 =8). Does anybody here seriously think that Spielmann was better at chess than Alekhine?"

Some comparisons are silly. Is it fair to compare Fischer's Spassky record against Karpov v Spassky?

To me thats the common denominator and worth looking at. Fischer beat Spassky7-2 wins, and Karpov 4-1 in their candidates match.

May-18-17  The Boomerang: Fischer would have got scared for sure going through Karpov's games in 1974.

Top GM's dont usually admit it but they do, Carlsen for example mentioned getting scared going over Anand's games in prep for their 2013 match in the 'Magnus' doco.

Fischer never faced anyone as strong as Karpov so would have been a little intimidating.

Who knows who would have won. Maybe Karpov causes an upset like in 1927.

Or Fischer wins both 75 and 78. Karpov was strong enough to win. Gave Garry heaps of trouble in all their matches.

May-18-17
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  Big Pawn: Karpov didn't approach Fischer's 2789 live rating until much later. It seems to me that Fischer was about 100 rating points stronger still.

If Fischer had continued to play at the level he played at in 70-72, his rating might have been something like 2830 or so.

I think it's not unreasonable to think that Fischer could have remained champion, even with Kasparov and Karpov on the scene, until he neared 40 or so. Maybe 43 or 44.

May-18-17
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  Big Pawn: <Fischer never faced anyone as strong as Karpov so would have been a little intimidating.>

Karpov had all he could handle with Korchnoi.

In 1974 Karpov barley beat him in the candidates +3 -2 =19

Then in 78 he barely won again 6 to 5 and 21 draws.

I think Fischer would have remained champion until age caused his brain to slow down.

May-18-17  Petrosianic: <The Boomerang: Fischer would have got scared for sure going through Karpov's games in 1974.>

You're mistaking an opinion for a fact. Also overlooking the fact that Fischer resigned his title before his challenger had been decided.

May-18-17  john barleycorn: <Petrosianic: ... Also overlooking the fact that Fischer resigned his title before his challenger had been decided.>

that cannot be emphasized too often as it is overlooked too often. also it should be noted that after Spassky's loss the Soviets pumped in a lot of money into chess and Karpov was considered the first "result" according to Krogius. However, the only yardstick there was, was Spassky and Karpov beat him convincingly after 1973. Proving what? well, nothing.imho

May-18-17  Petrosianic: With 20/20 hindsight, it seems clear that Fischer retired in 1972, occasionally toyed with unretiring, but never did until 1992. It's understandable that people weren't sure about that at the time, but now it's very clear.
May-18-17
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  RookFile: There wasn't a GM anywhere in the world, not one - Karpov included - that would have thought Fischer would have been anything other than the favorite in a 1975 match against Karpov. You still have to play that games, of course, and anything can happen. Sadly, we'll never know.
May-18-17
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  Sally Simpson: Fischer was certainly considering the idea of playing Karpov. He asked Bob Wade to gather all of Karpov's known games.

Bob Wade, one of the few players Fischer really trusted. It was Bob Wade who gathered all of Spassky's games prior to the '72 match for Fischer.

"He [Bob Wade] said fischer intended on playing Karpov because fischer asked bob to find all of karpovs games and send them to him and bob said he did as requested, and that fischer mainly wanted early games to look for weaknesses Karpov might of coverd up rather then eradicate."

http://chessworld.net/chessclubs/fo...

May-19-17
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  RookFile: Makes sense. Miles stumbled on something when he beat Karpov by answering 1. e4 with ....a6. Not that Fischer would have played this exact defense, but the idea is to make a murky position. Now, Karpov is smart too - he would have gotten ready for Fischer's poisoned pawn Sicilian. I think Fischer would have done something different - but what it would be, I have no idea.
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