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Dec-05-06
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| Sneaky: I think this was the WCC that had a really beautiful trophy awarded to the winner--solid gold, encrusted with diamonds, supposedly worth a small fortune in itself. A heck of a lot better than a wreath! |
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Dec-05-06
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| Karpova: Another very close match between those two legends - who would have expected the younger Gary to retire first in 1990? |
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| Dec-06-06 |
| Scarecrow: Why did they play games 23 and 24? Kasparov had the 12 points he needed after the 22nd already. |
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| Dec-06-06 |
| TIMER: <Scarecrow> I think that they split the money in the event of a tied match, and from the point of view of the result, obviously Kasparov would prefer to win the match outright than on a tie and similar reasoning for Karpov. |
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| Dec-06-06 |
| Scarecrow: <TIMER> Oh yes! Thank you. When looking at the scoreboard, the Kasparov-Kramnik match popped into my mind, which they abandoned when the winner was decided (after 15 games out of 16). But the champion lost there, so 'winning' meant a definite victory for Kramnik and didn't include the possibility of a tie. 1/8 of 3 million dollars is a good reason after all to play on even if you know you lost (or even better, won :))) |
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| Dec-12-06 |
| Chess Classics: <Sneaky> Yes, the Korloff trophy was worth about $1 million USD, but I think Kasparov sold it to create a relief fund for the recent Armenian conflict in Baku-he thought it was ugly. (According to Fred Waitzkin, at least.) Regards,
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| Feb-04-07 |
| sitzkrieg: SO how is this. Karpov in his recent interview on playchess says he could have won this match, and that he didnt use many chanches. The info above suggests that Karpov didnt really have a chanche.
But when I (briefly) look at the games I dont see where Kasparov missed wins. Can anyone point out the games with those clearly missed opportunities (for whatever side)? |
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Feb-04-07
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| percyblakeney: In the final game Kasparov preferred to offer draw when he was winning: Kasparov vs Karpov, 1990 |
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| Oct-31-07 |
| jamesmaskell: Looking through a database of Ruy Lopez Flohr-Zaitsev variation games, it seems to me that after the match, the Zaitsev variation seemed to be a bit of a downer for Black, with White getting plenty of wins against it. |
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| Oct-31-07 |
| RookFile: So, what is this, anyway, a test?
Chessgames is completely wrong here. This match did not end 12 to 11. The final score of this match was 12.5 to 11.5 - there were indeed 24 games in this match actually played, not 23. |
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| Oct-31-07 |
| Eggman: <<Chessgames is completely wrong here. This match did not end 12 to 11. The final score of this match was 12.5 to 11.5 - there were indeed 24 games in this match actually played, not 23.
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Quite correct, <RookFile>. There was indeed a 24th game, for although Kasparov had held the title by reaching 12 points, he had not yet won the match and thus the lion's share of the prize money. This was the 24th game:
Kasparov vs Karpov, 1990. It was indeed drawn and the final score of the match was indeed 12.5-11.5 in GK's favour. |
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Nov-06-07
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| chessgames.com: We believe that the tournament record is corrected now. |
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| Nov-26-07 |
| pacorrum: Not a single victory with black, for either player. |
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Jan-29-08
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| amadeus: Opening Analysis (Rybka 2.3.2a, 17plies)
<After move 15>
White Karpov: 10 x 1 [=1] / avg.eval: +0.28 (standard deviation:0.27) White Kasparov: 8 x 4 [=0] / avg.eval: +0.23 (sd.:0.33) <After move 20>
White Karpov: 11 x 0 [=1] / avg.eval: +0.29 (sd.:0.22) White Kasparov: 8 x 2 [=2] / avg.eval: +0.23 (sd.:0.41) <0.10-fold>
After move 15:
White Karpov: 9 x 0 [=3]
White Kasparov: 7 x 1 [=4]
After move20:
White Karpov: 9 x 0 [=3]
White Kasparov: 7 x 1 [=4]
Karpov's largest advantages: games 3 and 23
Kasparov's largest advantages: game 16 |
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| May-04-08 |
| matingthreat: you can watch coverage of this match here - http://video.google.com/videoplay?d... |
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| Sep-22-08 |
| offramp: I think this was the best K-K match, and one of the best WC matches ever. |
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| Oct-12-08 |
| Octal: Any reason as to why Karpov had a nicer chair throughout the entire match? You can view the video posted earlier by <matingthreat> for pictures of this. |
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| Nov-28-08 |
| Brown: <sitzkreig> <percyblakenly> It seems this game... Karpov vs Kasparov, 1990 ...saw Karpov squander winning positions on move 26 as well as move 28. |
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| Dec-22-08 |
| Inf: <matingthreat> Thank you very much for that link! I have always wanted to see how a GM "thinks" during a match on a video... of almost 3 hours! |
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| Dec-23-08 |
| Inf: Were computers being use by these 2 during this time? Or not? |
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| Dec-23-08 |
| AnalyzeThis: Not for analysis, as computers at that time were IM strength, at very best weak GM strength. But they may have used computers for database reasons.... (games and openings). |
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| Dec-23-08 |
| littlefermat: <Inf: Were computers being use by these 2 during this time? Or not?> Maybe. There was a minor controversy over the outcome of this game: Kasparov vs Karpov, 1990
and relevant kibitzes:
<SetNoEscapeOn: It's really interesting that during this game, there was a great controversy over whether or not Kasparov analyzed the adjourned position with a computer. For myself, I don't see the difference between looking at an adjourned position with a computer or with seconds (other strong grandmasters).Some people have lamented the end of adjournments but I prefer chess as a competition between two players.> Followed by:
< Eyal:...This was pretty much the view expressed by Karpov following the match, when he said that he had the impression Kasparov was determined to adjourn the game a second time (on move 89) because he couldn't find the winning plan by himself over the board, and needed the help of his seconds (http://video.google.com/videoplay?d... at 45:40). Recently, however, Karpov has been lamenting in an interview the loss of adjournments as hurting the quality of the game...> |
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Dec-24-08
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| acirce: Of course computers could be used for basic blunder-checking if nothing else. |
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| Aug-17-09 |
| ozmikey: <pacorrum> I just noticed that too. The first WC match without a black win in 80 years, if the database is correct! The mid-eighties Kasparov might have tried for a win in games 15 and 19, though. |
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| Aug-29-09 |
| Hesam7: A 2 hour and 45 minute long video on this match with commentaries from Kasparov and Karpov: http://video.google.com/videoplay?d... |
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