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| Dec-18-06 | | DCP23: <PinkPanther>: <The only really "strong" chess player who participated was Svidler, and not that I really ever respected him that much in the first place, but he's really fallen down a few notches in my book.> That says nothing about Svidler, but a lot about you. |
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| Dec-18-06 | | PinkPanther: Oh really? Care to elaborate? |
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Dec-18-06
 | | Plato: <PinkPanther> Can you name five Grandmasters, past or present, whom you do respect? All I've ever seen you do is denigrate strong GMs. |
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| Dec-20-06 | | PinkPanther: Would you like that?
Let's see, starting with my chess idol:
1.Michael Adams (a positional god)
2.Vishy Anand (I'm no fan of his, but I do respect him)
3.Garry Kasparov
4.Anatoly Karpov (I have the utmost respect for his style)
5.Akiba Rubinstein (see the comments on Karpov)
6.Mikhail Botvinnik (see the comments on Karpov)
7.Bobby Fischer
8.Alexander Alekhine - I greatly respect tactical accuracy. It seemed to me like most of his combinations were very profund, but also based on correct ideas and calculations.Do I really need to keep going? Svidler just seems like a guy to me that hasn't accomplished much....I mean really. He just doesn't stand out to me. He seems like a nice guy, but as a chess player it's like "meh", you know? I don't have a lot of respect for tactical tricksters, I prefer a slow, correct, positional crush. |
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| Dec-20-06 | | adair10: <PinkPanther: He can't even win a 4th rate Russian Championship..... > This tournament had average rating of about 2622. There are very few national championships that can get that strong (maybe Ukrainian and Armenian) assuming all best players participate. Do you consider those championships 4th rate championships? Also, if Ivanchuk and Aronian don't win, are they not great players anymore? |
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| Dec-20-06 | | Rawprawn: If anyone is still tuned in, why did Jakovenko resign the second tiebreak game? |
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| Dec-20-06 | | PinkPanther: 2622 is laughably weak for a Russian Championship. Combine that with the fact that Svidler is what...130 points higher rated than that, and all you're doing is making my point for me. |
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Dec-20-06
 | | Rolfo: <pink> I think some of the reactions are based on the impression that you are showing lack of respect.. The way you are expressing your opinion.. Think of it |
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| Dec-20-06 | | Mameluk: <pinkpanther> You don´t get that 9 of the participants were young ambitious players who are on huge rise. Just watch January´s rating list for 3 winners, and 2010 rating list for Khairullin and Nepo. |
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| Dec-20-06 | | PinkPanther: Too bad the tournament wasn't being played in 2010, idiot. I don't care how they're "weak" or why they're "weak". The main thing is that by Russian championship standards they're weak and for Svidler to not even be able to win this tournament...hell, he never led it at any point, is pathetic. |
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Dec-20-06
| | Rolfo: I don't try anymore |
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| Dec-20-06 | | TIMER: <PinkPanther> Somebody like Morozevich would have taken no prisoners against this kind of opposition. Whereas Svidler doesn't seem to want to take more risks to beat weaker players- it is not his style, and he doesn't get very motivated like Morozevich or Topalov would. I agree that he gave away too many draws, as if as top seed he did not expect to dominate, which is surprising. Svidler could get a similar result to this in a super-tournament despite the much tougher opposition. |
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| Dec-20-06 | | Mameluk: Of course the main reason, why solid 2650+ players like Malakhov, Motylev, Dreev or Zvjagintsev did not play this tournament was, that these weak youngsters terribly kicked their asses in qualification. |
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| Dec-20-06 | | PinkPanther: Motylev, Dreev and Zvjagintsev aren't the best Russia has to offer either. They're, at best, 2nd rate Russians. I know why Kramnik wasn't there, but where were Grischuk, Moro and Bareev? |
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| Dec-20-06 | | PinkPanther: You see what I'm getting at? No Kasparov, no Kramnik, no Moro, no Grischuk, no Dreev, no Bareev...and Svidler still can't win? |
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Dec-20-06
 | | Gypsy: <Svidler has won the Russian Championship four times, in 1994, 1995, 1997, and 2003.> I'd say that evidence shows Svidler can win it alright; he just didn't this time. |
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| Dec-20-06 | | PinkPanther: And who was playing in all those tournaments. I'd be interested to see. |
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Dec-21-06
| | Gypsy: <And who was playing in all those tournaments. I'd be interested to see.> That's a trick question, right? http://db.chessmetrics.com/CM2/Sing...
http://db.chessmetrics.com/CM2/Sing...
http://db.chessmetrics.com/CM2/Sing...
http://db.chessmetrics.com/CM2/Sing... |
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| Dec-21-06 | | PinkPanther: <Gypsy>
Thanks for proving my point. Every one of those Russian Championships was second-rate at best. |
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Dec-21-06
| | Gypsy: <PinkPanther> Oh, I thought you ment Svidler is just not capable of winning ammong such competition. < You see what I'm getting at? No Kasparov, no Kramnik, no Moro, no Grischuk, no Dreev, no Bareev...and Svidler still can't win? > |
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| Dec-21-06 | | PinkPanther: When you say that you're a 4-time Russian champion, the implication is that you beat the very best the country has to offer, which he never did. |
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| Dec-21-06 | | PinkPanther: In what I said before, I was grasping for straws. I don't really hold Dreev and Bareev in very high regard, but they would have been an improvement over the players that were actually there. |
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| Dec-21-06 | | petrovalovski: You sound like you have a 300000000 elorating. |
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| Dec-21-06 | | Prugno: <PinkPanther> If you tried looking at the GAMES instead of the ratings, you would realize that this was in fact a very high level Russian championship, probably better than last year's. It was not the relatively "old guard" like Svidler and Rublevsky who played badly (of course they are also human so the occasional mistake was made), but the youngsters who played well. Let's see if Jakovenko scores more or less points than Moro in the strong closed event in Pamplona beginning tomorrow... |
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| Dec-21-06 | | PinkPanther: We shall see. |
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