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|Jun-14-08|| ||talisman: <MrPatzer> well alexei can say he's in good company.name 3 participants who did not win 1 game in a world championship match.|
|Jun-16-08|| ||lorker: garry kasparov! ermm who else? vassily ivanchuk, and hmm... i think thats it isnt it?|
|Jun-16-08|| ||cuendillar: Fischer remained winless in 1975, but does it count like a match? There's also Lasker-Capablanca World Championship Match (1921), Lasker-Janowski World Championship Match (1910), Lasker-Marshall World Championship Match (1907).|
|Jun-16-08|| ||fromoort: Yep, it's red electrical insulating tape - very rare in India, Spain and Latvia. No wonder both Anand and Shirov are so happy to receive a roll as their prize.|
|Jun-17-08|| ||talisman: <lorker and cuendillar> great job.
alas, <fromoort> gets the FIDE duct tape prize.|
|Jun-25-08|| ||fromoort: <talisman>Lol...I'll still take it. It comes in pretty useful in many situations.|
|Oct-24-08|| ||hedgeh0g: <Lithuanian-born Alexey Shirov>|
I thought he was from Latvia...
|Oct-24-08|| ||Cactus: Yes, he is the 'Magician from Riga version 2.0', and Riga is in Latvia.|
|Oct-25-08|| ||VaselineTopLove: Doesn't chessgames have all the games from this knockout starting from round 1?|
I want to see if Anand had dropped a single game in this knockout.
|Oct-25-08|| ||percyblakeney: <I want to see if Anand had dropped a single game in this knockout.>|
He scored +7 -0 =9 in the classical games, and had to play rapid tiebreak only against Khalifman:
|Nov-02-08|| ||VaselineTopLove: I think Anand started considering this FIDE 2000 win to be important, especially after Kramnik beat Kasparov, because Anand never really felt he was inferior to Kramnik, Topalov, Leko or anyone else. He only acknowledged Kasparov as being the best in his generation, but probably felt he was the next best after GK, and saw no reason to degrade his own achievement once GK was no longer the champ and given that Kramnik's own match and tournament record wasn't all that spectacular (barring his win over GK).|
Had Kasparov won the K-K 2000 match, I'm sure Anand would not have valued his FIDE title as much as he does...
|Nov-02-08|| ||VaselineTopLove: FIDE should have organized a re-unification match between Anand and Kramnik (two different title holders) in 2001 instead of organizing another FIDE Knockout in 2001. That way the schism could have been resolved much earlier.|
Perhaps this was in the works but somehow never saw the light of day because of FIDE bureaucracy, or Kasparov's tactics at filibustering such an effort because that would leave him out, or Kramnik's refusal to defend his title so soon, just so that he could hold on to it for several years...
|Nov-02-08|| ||acirce: <VaselinTopLove> In principle it would have been a golden opportunity. However, it was obviously not Braingames' intention to unify the titles under FIDE instead of going on with their own cycle as planned, and it was obviously not Kramnik's intention to break his contract with them as the first thing he did as new champion.|
Anand was not overwhelmingly enthusiastic about the idea either. He said after winning the FIDE title in Tehran that a unification match would be fine but would not solve anything at all.
|Nov-02-08|| ||VaselineTopLove: What was Kramnik's contract with Braingames? And why did Anand feel a re-unification match would not have solved anything?|
|Nov-05-08|| ||hitman84: This is what Anand had to say in 2004.
<'I am always happy to try new formats'>
|Nov-05-08|| ||acirce: I was just referring to how Kramnik had agreed to defend his title against a challenger that was going to be produced by the Braingames cycle.|
This is from an interview Anand gave New In Chess right after winning the FIDE World Championship in New Delhi/Tehran 2000/01.
Anand: <[...] The chess world has broken into two and there is not much I can do about it. And I prefer not to waste my time on things that I can't do anything about. That was my attitude before and in Delhi also. This was the world championship and if people prefer to think otherwise, that's fine with me.>
Dirk Jan ten Geuzendam: <People may expect a different responsibility now that you won the world championship. When Kramnik won the match in London he said that a rematch was an option but that it was not the first thing we should look for. He found it his duty to at least try to come to some reunification in the chess world.>
Anand: <A unification match is fine but it really goes back to this irony that in effect Kramnik has seeded himself into the final of a reunification match. Or I have seeded myself into this final, whichever way you look at it. A reunification match is fine but if the FIDE system holds then I have to defend it again at the end of this year, whereas his title is more open-ended. He might be champion for life if Brain Games collapses. If a reunification match is on, fine, but I don't exactly feel that I have to go to a referendum now. I feel quite legitimate. Obviously it's never going to be what it was, but we have known this since 1993. I'm just fed up going back to that.>
DJtG: <You don't feel any urge to take the initiative...>
Anand: <Well, if I play a match with Kramnik, Kasparov will still be around and this rubbish will still go on. Nothing will be resolved by this match. We'll play and then Kasparov will claim that he wants a chance, but he won't play within FIDE, blah blah blah. I mean, I'll be happy to play a match but it will resolve nothing. Perhaps after seven years of this I am more cynical. I think the chess world has almost got to the point where people want it this way.>
New in Chess 2001/1
|Nov-05-08|| ||hitman84: So, I guess one can say that Kasparov's retirement helped solve the problems created by him and FIDE.|
|Nov-05-08|| ||acirce: Kramnik: <I have many ideas at the moment. This is quite problematic. What about FIDE, what about reunification? I have a contract with Brain Games and so far they have been fulfilling all their obligations, as I was fulfilling mine. If they are going to fulfil their future obligations, and I hope they will, I am going to do the same. It's a matter of Brain Games and FIDE if they want to find a solution to this problem. If they come up with an idea they can tell me and I will think about it. If not, I can't do anything, as I have a contract.> New In Chess, 2000/8|
Btw, a small correction: <New Delhi/Tehran 2000/01> It should simply be 2000, of course.
|Oct-03-09|| ||amadeus: Game Collection: 2000 - FIDE World Championship KO Tournament|
|Oct-03-09|| ||yalie: thanks <amadeus>.|
|Oct-04-10|| ||SetNoEscapeOn: A bug of some sort, <chessgames.com>? There are 12 games listed here, and 8 say they are from 2004, when Anand didn't even participate.|
|Apr-24-11|| ||I play the Fred: <After Cycle 17, FIDE abandoned its match-based championship entirely and created a new, tournament-based championship built around the format of the 1997 Groningen knockout tournament. The new format differed from the 1997 championship in that the knockout would be used to crown a FIDE champion rather than produce a challenger. The change in format was not made with the consent of the sitting title holder, Anatoly Karpov, who scoffed at the new format and challenged FIDE in court.|
The tournament took place from November 26 to December 28. The preliminary matches, including the semi-finals, were held in New Delhi, India, and the final match was held in Tehran, Iran. The knockout matches were best of two games until the semi-final round, which was best of four. The final round was best of six games. Tied matches were decided by rapid and then blitz games. The winner of the event was the veteran Indian Grandmaster, Viswanathan Anand, who defeated Bologan, Lputian, Macieja, defending champion Khalifman, and Adams before facing Latvian-born Alexey Shirov in the final round.
After only four games Anand scored three wins and a draw, thus capturing the 2000 FIDE World Chess Championship.>
Just as I did for the 1997 event.
|Feb-15-12|| ||Penguincw: Shortest world championship final ever. Anand drew the first game with black, then won the next with white, and rolled over Shirov to finally clinch in just 4.|
|Feb-07-13|| ||Tabanus: Dates of the four games would be 20, 21, 22 and 23 December, to judge from the reporting here:|
|Jun-16-18|| ||Tabanus: New link: https://gammel.bergensjakk.no/bs-ar...|
I changed to those dates. At least they are more right than January 2000, which it has been until today.
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