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|Jun-25-07|| ||khursh: From www.chess.com
Most drawing Grandmaster. Ulf Andersson of Sweden has drawn 74% of his games against top-level opposition, winning 10%, and losing 16%.
|Jun-25-07|| ||gmgomes: Andersson x Ribli: 9 moves, no draw until now.|
|Jun-25-07|| ||gmgomes: Ribli draws in 15 moves.
Andersson x Timman: 12 moves, no draw until now.
|Jun-25-07|| ||gmgomes: The other games:
Sokolov x Mecking is a Spanish Chigorin, with some action at queenside (small edge for Sokolov - move 19)
Vaganian x Portish is a QGA, with a nice edge for Vaganian - move 12
Beliavsky x Khalifman is a Queen´s Indian, where white has sac a pawn and seems to have compensation for it - move 14.
|Jun-25-07|| ||gmgomes: Andersson x Timman: draw in 19 moves, so in the battle of drawmasters Ribli won with 15 moves.|
|Jun-25-07|| ||percyblakeney: <Andersson x Timman: draw in 19 moves, so in the battle of drawmasters Ribli won with 15 moves.>|
The last round is usually a bit more peaceful, and that's when Andersson and Ribli meet, it will be interesting to see how it turns out :-)
|Jun-25-07|| ||virginmind: <gmgomes> on playches i see they drawn in 14 moves. also, ribli draw in 16 moves.
this is really beginning to look like total neglect or even contempt for the public. it is simply embarrasing. how can they act like this?|
|Jun-25-07|| ||gmgomes: <The last round is usually a bit more peaceful, and that's when Andersson and Ribli meet, it will be interesting to see how it turns out :-)> I think they will follow:
Karpov vs Leko, 1995
|Jun-25-07|| ||gmgomes: About serious games:
Portisch blundered with 20... e5 and now it is a win for Vaganian.
Baliavsky x Khalifman looks drawish after 23. Ng4
while Sokolov x Mecking is a double edged game, which Sokolov has the best chances.
|Jun-25-07|| ||VargPOD: Vaganian-Portisch 1-0 official.
Also Sokolov-Mecking is very interesting, looks like we could have another decisive game this round.
|Jun-25-07|| ||gmgomes: <Vaganian-Portisch 1-0 official.> it seems that Portisch missed 17.... Rxd4, even with wining chances for him!|
|Jun-25-07|| ||VargPOD: Drawmaster statistics: all four players with all draws. In order average game length, longest game, shortest game, number of under 20-move draws|
Andersson: 21; 33(black, Beliavsky); 13(white, Suba + white,Khalifman); 4
Beliavsky: 37,75; 62(white, Timman); 27(black, Ribli); 0
Ribli: 24,25; 53(black, Timman); 11(white,Suba); 3 (+one 20-mover)
Sokolov: 30; 83(white, Chiburdanidze); 17(black, Khalifman); 2 (+one 20-mover)
Looks like Beliavsky is only one of this bunch trying (but getting no results).
|Jun-25-07|| ||Kangaroo: <<VargPOD>: ... Also Sokolov-Mecking is very interesting, looks like we could have another decisive game this round.>
You meant that Mecking would win, did you not? He has an incredible feeling about classical chess!|
|Jun-25-07|| ||Kangaroo: Beliavsky has winning chances against Khalifman, which will equate Vaganian and Khalifman before the last round where they face each other.|
|Jun-25-07|| ||VargPOD: Sokolov-Mecking 0-1 official, after a Sokolov blunder. Beliavsky's advantage against Khalifman looks definitive.|
|Jun-25-07|| ||gmgomes: <Sokolov-Mecking 0-1 official, after a Sokolov blunder. Beliavsky's advantage against Khalifman looks definitive.> Double edged game; Sokolov had good wining chances, but ended up losing the game - one of the best games of this tournament so far.|
|Jun-25-07|| ||VargPOD: And Beliavsky finally grinds a fine win, Beliavsky-Khalifman 1-0 official! Three decisive games, the best round in this tournament. |
Ribli and Andersson have a chance of +0 -0 =10, they are meeting in the last round.
|Jun-25-07|| ||DUS: Who is playing white tomorrow, Vaganian or Khalifman?|
|Jun-25-07|| ||Davolni: Congratulations to veteran Vaganian (former world #3) for his victory against Portisch!!!!!!!!!!! |
22 moves..... that's what I am talking about!!!!!!!!!!
|Jun-25-07|| ||DUS: <Davolni> Congrats! But Portisch is even "more" veteran than Vaganian. I wish Vaganian can beat "less" veteran Khalifman too.|
|Jun-25-07|| ||Davolni: Oh yeah, You are right <DUS>. "Veteran" I meant for Armenian team. So whoever wins the last game wins the match? is that how it is?|
|Jun-25-07|| ||DUS: I think so. You are right, Vaganian is a veteran.|
|Jun-25-07|| ||gmgomes: Portisch was born in 1937, while Vaganian is much younger (1951).|
|Jun-25-07|| ||gmgomes: <Congratulations to veteran Vaganian (former world #3) for his victory against Portisch!!!!!!!!!!!>|
Most of these guys where very well qualified; I caught some information in chessmetrics.com:
Lajos Portisch Best World Rank: #3
Rafael Vaganian Best World Rank: #3
Andrey Sokolov Best World Rank: #4
Alexander Beliavsky Best World Rank: #3
Ulf Andersson Best World Rank: #3
Henrique Mecking Best World Rank: #4
Alexander Khalifman Best World Rank: #8
Zoltán Ribli Best World Rank: #8
Jan Timman Best World Rank: #3
It may differ a bit from Fide List; I know that Mecking for instance reached #3 in Fide list, while he reached only #4 on chessmetrics, but it is a good indication.
|Jun-25-07|| ||DUS: <gmgomes: Portisch was born in 1937, while Vaganian is much younger (1951).>|
Of course. Thats why I said Portisch is "more" veteran. With age they do not play better. For veterans I think they should organize short game tournaments, like blitz type maybe. It is hard to play several hours even for young players.
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