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Biel Chess Festival Tournament

Alexander Onischuk5.5/9(+3 -1 =5)[games]
Magnus Carlsen5.5/9(+4 -2 =3)[games]
Judit Polgar5/9(+2 -1 =6)[games]
Teimour Radjabov5/9(+2 -1 =6)[games]
Yannick Pelletier5/9(+2 -1 =6)[games]
Alexander Grischuk5/9(+2 -1 =6)[games]
Bu Xiangzhi3.5/9(+2 -4 =3)[games]
Alexander Motylev3.5/9(+1 -3 =5)[games]
Loek van Wely3.5/9(+2 -4 =3)[games]
Boris Avrukh3.5/9(+1 -3 =5)[games]

 page 1 of 2; games 1-25 of 45  PGN Download
Game  ResultMoves YearEvent/LocaleOpening
1. Carlsen vs Bu Xiangzhi 1-0842007Biel Chess FestivalD10 Queen's Gambit Declined Slav
2. Van Wely vs Judit Polgar 0-1402007Biel Chess FestivalE17 Queen's Indian
3. Onischuk vs Radjabov ½-½462007Biel Chess FestivalE62 King's Indian, Fianchetto
4. Grischuk vs Motylev ½-½412007Biel Chess FestivalD19 Queen's Gambit Declined Slav, Dutch
5. Pelletier vs B Avrukh ½-½262007Biel Chess FestivalD94 Grunfeld
6. Motylev vs Pelletier  ½-½532007Biel Chess FestivalB48 Sicilian, Taimanov Variation
7. Onischuk vs Grischuk 1-0362007Biel Chess FestivalD17 Queen's Gambit Declined Slav
8. B Avrukh vs Van Wely  ½-½262007Biel Chess FestivalD11 Queen's Gambit Declined Slav
9. Radjabov vs Bu Xiangzhi ½-½152007Biel Chess FestivalB97 Sicilian, Najdorf
10. Judit Polgar vs Carlsen ½-½432007Biel Chess FestivalC80 Ruy Lopez, Open
11. Pelletier vs Onischuk ½-½252007Biel Chess FestivalE06 Catalan, Closed, 5.Nf3
12. Grischuk vs Radjabov ½-½662007Biel Chess FestivalE73 King's Indian
13. Carlsen vs B Avrukh ½-½362007Biel Chess FestivalB42 Sicilian, Kan
14. Van Wely vs Motylev 0-1382007Biel Chess FestivalA25 English
15. Bu Xiangzhi vs Judit Polgar 1-0342007Biel Chess FestivalA35 English, Symmetrical
16. Radjabov vs Judit Polgar ½-½442007Biel Chess FestivalE20 Nimzo-Indian
17. B Avrukh vs Bu Xiangzhi 1-0342007Biel Chess FestivalD10 Queen's Gambit Declined Slav
18. Grischuk vs Pelletier 1-0542007Biel Chess FestivalB47 Sicilian, Taimanov (Bastrikov) Variation
19. Onischuk vs Van Wely 1-0292007Biel Chess FestivalD44 Queen's Gambit Declined Semi-Slav
20. Motylev vs Carlsen 0-1352007Biel Chess FestivalC95 Ruy Lopez, Closed, Breyer
21. Carlsen vs Onischuk 1-0392007Biel Chess FestivalD43 Queen's Gambit Declined Semi-Slav
22. Judit Polgar vs B Avrukh ½-½352007Biel Chess FestivalC65 Ruy Lopez, Berlin Defense
23. Pelletier vs Radjabov  ½-½222007Biel Chess FestivalA40 Queen's Pawn Game
24. Grischuk vs Carlsen ½-½552007Biel Chess FestivalE10 Queen's Pawn Game
25. Bu Xiangzhi vs Motylev 1-0392007Biel Chess FestivalD23 Queen's Gambit Accepted
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Aug-03-07  Marvol: <They should be getting the slots that are undeservedly being enjoyed in Linares, Corus etc by some players who have stagnated ... with little or no capacity to improve ... players like Van Wely.>

I have to take exception to this. Van Wely is a welcome fighter in tournaments that are all too often marred by players that play short draws and are happy to get to +1 or something and preserve their rating. Svidler and Adams of late seem to have fallen in that category.

FWIW, in this Biel for instance I think van Wely did more -i.e. fought harder- to deserve his invitation than Radjabov, who seemed content to draw himself to the rapid tiebreak after a counterpunch here and there. Besides, I have barely noticed Avrukh, and Motylev mainly distinguished himself through appaling time handling.

Finally, van Wely hardly gets invitations anyway to the top-flight tournaments apart from Corus, which happens to be in Holland.

Aug-03-07
Premium Chessgames Member
  WannaBe: <AlexandraThess> Agreed, 110%.
Aug-03-07  AlexandraThess: <percyblakeney>&<WannaBe>, The truth is that devoting such amount of time and energy to chess, at least at this age (or maybe in general?!) results in underdevelopment, in sense of education, 'emotional building', and even intellect. Even prodigies should live harmonic life in order to materialize their potential in full. Finally, the idea of chess is to be a means/way for self-development and improving human analytical reasoning.
Aug-03-07  percyblakeney: <The truth is that devoting such amount of time and energy to chess, at least at this age (or maybe in general?!) results in underdevelopment, in sense of education, 'emotional building', and even intellect>

Blackburne wrote: <I have never allowed my children to learn it, for I have seen too much of its evil results> about the game, even if that maybe is to be a bit too negative...

Aug-03-07  Rolfo: <AexandraThess> I think the main reason for young Magnus' success, is due to his wise parents in more than one sense. He is allowed to do natural things for his age, fotball, social activities, schoolwork etc.. Read his fathers blog from the very beginning.
Aug-03-07  whytenite: How do we know the proper way make a chess prodigy a world champ? I think if we feed him spinach on thursday, and take him for walks on fridays. Then he will be champ. Bascially, i am saying the stars need to align, get lucky, hard work, determination, good given talent, proper nurturing, diet, exercise, rest, strong family foundation, and be as good at chess as I am :)
Aug-03-07  Timex: Carlsen wins!!

http://previews.chessdom.com/china-uk

lookie here, china vs. england, this should get interesting. The teams are not bad too.

Aug-04-07
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  lostemperor: <AlexandraThess: The truth is that devoting such amount of time and energy to chess, at least at this age (or maybe in general?!) results in underdevelopment, in sense of education, 'emotional building', and even intellect...>

I must agree. Such as people like Kasparov and Fischer. Kasparov being far more dangerous than Fischer. While not many take Fischer very serious other than being a nutcase, Kasparov actually thinks he has some kind of a superior understanding in everything! This man has been a complete failure in all he has done outside the chessboard. He sold out the game of chess. "His" organisations like GMA and PCA, if not founded by kasparov, they were for his purposes, have vanished into thin air. His KasparovChess site has gone bankrupt with a million debt. He single-handely created chaos in the chessworld. And now he wants to do the same with Russia. With a new political movement for more democracy (Iraq has more democracy now also!). Fortunately the people are not buying him. All Garry Kasparov care about is Garry Kasparov.

But for ordinary young people chess can be very inspiring!!

Aug-04-07  zanshin: <lostemperor> Otoh, Karpov is supposedly a billionaire:

http://www.nysun.com/article/59276

Aug-04-07  WarmasterKron: Yuck, Armageddon playoff. I don't think I can improve on what Chessbase had to say on the matter:

"We have been unable to confirm rumours than an earth tremor was felt in Biel, during the final game, believed to have been caused by Mikhail Botvinnik revolving in his grave at the thought of a major international tournament being decided in such fashion..."

Indeed.

Aug-05-07  percyblakeney: Having rapid/blitz tiebreaks in tournaments is maybe a bit pointless, but hardly that terrible considering that the World Championship has the same system. If one single winner absolutely must be found it's probably not worse than for example Linares having been decided by number of black wins, even if I don't think there's anything wrong with sharing first.

Carlsen didn't dislike the Biel tiebreak, maybe understandable since he won:

<It is a very interesting idea that could be replicated in other places. Of course, weariness can be a decisive factor. However, it gives a clear winner in a tournament and that is very important. Chance plays a lesser role than with the Sonnenborn-Berger point system.>

http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail...

Aug-05-07
Premium Chessgames Member
  JointheArmy: <Kasparov actually thinks he has some kind of a superior understanding in everything!>

How is this different than your average genius?

Aug-05-07
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: I don't think I have a superior understanding in everything at all!
Aug-07-07  WarmasterKron: <Having rapid/blitz tiebreaks in tournaments is maybe a bit pointless, but hardly that terrible considering that the World Championship has the same system>

I rather object to the World Championship having it, too. There was enough tutting with Kramnik beating Topalov on rapid tiebreaks - imagine the outrage if either had won the title on an Armageddon game.

Aug-07-07  percyblakeney: <I rather object to the World Championship having it, too>

Naturally, I think having blitz tiebreak in the World Championship and World Cup is worse since it really means something, regardless if it goes to Armageddon or not. In a tournament like Biel one can always choose to care very little about the tiebreak, since it isn't all that important how it ends up.

In the World Championship and qualification blitz skill will get more and more crucial since many matches will go to tiebreak. In the World Championship 2004 twelve of the matches were decided by Armageddon games, and many more in the previous blitz games.

Aug-07-07  Akavall: I wonder how fair Armageddon games are themselves. Does anybody know if white and black tend to score 50-50?
Aug-07-07  percyblakeney: <Akavall> I remember checking up the FIDE World Championship 2004, and there 9 of 12 Armageddon games were won by white.
Aug-07-07  Akavall: <percyblakeney> Thanks. Of course this is a small sample, but maybe having white is better, since by the time the Armageddon games is played fatigue is already a huge factor, maybe the extra minute is very helpful, while draws under such circumstances are a fairly rare anyway. Maybe.
Aug-07-07  WarmasterKron: <Naturally, I think having blitz tiebreak in the World Championship and World Cup is worse since it really means something, regardless if it goes to Armageddon or not.>

Indeed. As if the initial two-game mini-matches weren't bad enough!

Aug-08-07  percyblakeney: <Some more on tiebreaks, Armageddon games and so on>

Updated Armageddon statistics, including all World Championships (men and women, 2001-06), the World Cup, Biel, the Radjabov-Carlsen match and the World Blitz Championship: in 35 Armageddon games white won 19 times. So the chances seem fairly even, but both having white and an extra minute would probably make me bet on white if the players are on the same level.

In the latest knockouts (World Championship 04 and World Cup 05) approximately half the matches were decided by rapid/blitz. For example Carlsen was eliminated in shorter time controls in the World Championship 2004, World Cup 2005, and Candidates 2007, also Mamedyarov went out in rapid/blitz both in 2004 and 2005.

Since it's not uncommon in these knockouts with players having most of their matches decided in rapid/blitz (some played a tiebreak in 4 of their last 5 matches), it's hard to underestimate how important rapid/blitz skill will continue to be (especially if there will be no other way to reach a title match than winning the World Cup).

Aug-08-07  Akavall: <percyblakeney> <Updated Armageddon statistics, including all World Championships (men and women, 2001-06), the World Cup, Biel, the Radjabov-Carlsen match and the World Blitz Championship: in 35 Armageddon games white won 19 times. So the chances seem fairly even, but both having white and an extra minute would probably make me bet on white if the players are on the same level. percyblakeney>

So they do appear to score roughly evenly. Thanks for more info.

Aug-08-07
Premium Chessgames Member
  Appaz: <percyblakeney> Interesting info, thank you.

The Onischuck-Carlsen game proved a successful black strategy: at least twice white had to deviate to avoid exchange of queens or repetition. I can imagine that must be frustrating under such pressure.

Aug-10-07
Premium Chessgames Member
  Peligroso Patzer: The games from the Carlsen-Onischuk playoff (which have not been indexed to this page) are available here: http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches...
Aug-27-07  Themofro: Video of some of the blitz games, Aramgeddon game and breif interview afterwards with Magnus Carlsen at:

http://www.youtube.com/?v=nOL_fYEEBsI

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