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|Feb-07-08|| ||LKor: Thanks, <Eyal>, for the clarification! I just think that rewarding only wins with black is still not enough: managing a draw with black is more respectable than the same "achievement" with white!|
|Feb-08-08|| ||percyblakeney: Wijk aan Zee (A) statistics 1996-2008 for the participants of the latest edition of the tournament:|
Anand +50 -9 =84
Topalov +36 -25 =69
Kramnik +30 -12 =75
Adams +28 -13 =77
van Wely +23 -56 =90
Ivanchuk +18 -6 =54
Leko +17 -6 =81
Polgar +12 -12 =41
Aronian +11 -4 =24
Radjabov +11 -5 =23
Gelfand +9 -14 =42
Carlsen +5 -6 =15
Eljanov +2 -5 =6
Mamedyarov +1 -6 =19
|Feb-08-08|| ||adair10: Thank you, <percyblakeney>. I took the liberty to use your statistics in rearranged form showing overal plus or minus (number of wins minus number of losses) and total number of games played.|
van Wely -33/169
The most games were played by Anand and van Wely with strikingly different outcomes
|Feb-08-08|| ||percyblakeney: <adair10> Interesting, and if Kasparov is added his score would be +18/39. Players like Aronian and Radjabov have good chances to advance in these statistics if they can keep playing anything similar to their latest starts.|
|Feb-08-08|| ||Eyal: <Players like Aronian and Radjabov have good chances to advance in these statistics if they can keep playing anything similar to their latest starts.>|
And so does Carlsen, of course... His overall score doesn't look very impressive yet (still "suffering" from the weak performance of last year), but he's already won a tournament - something which a player like Adams, with his supposedly more impressive score, never managed to do (though he came quite close at 2004) and probably never will.
|Feb-08-08|| ||slomarko: <-33> omg|
|Feb-08-08|| ||percyblakeney: <And so does Carlsen, of course...>|
Indeed. At the same time the results show that it's not easy to line up the wins in a tournament like Wijk. Pono has never had a plus score, also Svidler has a career minus. I think Shirov has in total +1 after many starts. Carlsen, Radjabov and Aronian are probably able to get a plus many years in a row, but not many other players will be able to do it.
|Feb-08-08|| ||SwitchingQuylthulg: <percyblakeney, adair10> There are some things wrong with those numbers. Leko's +11/114 should be +11/104 (which indeed is what <percyblakeney>'s initial stats show). Adams having 118 games also looks a bit strange, given that this number is not divisible by 13... perhaps there's one draw too many or something?|
|Feb-08-08|| ||percyblakeney: <Adams having 118 games also looks a bit strange, given that this number is not divisible by 13... perhaps there's one draw too many or something?>|
Correct, it should be +28 -13 =76 for him. Link worth reposting:
|Feb-08-08|| ||adair10: Leko's score should be as <SwitchingQuylthulg> corrected me +11/104, not +11/114. As much as we think Aronian, Radjabov and Carlsen have the best chance to get to the top, it still will be very difficult. For example, Aronian needs to participate (or more accurately needs to be invited) in 8 more tournaments and produce an astonishing average score of +4.25 to catch present Anand. Only now I realized how good a record Anand has. <SwitchingQuylthulg> please correct me if my math has failed me again|
|Feb-09-08|| ||percyblakeney: <Only now I realized how good a record Anand has>|
Anand's eleven latest scores in Wijk: +3 +4 +6 +3 +4 +4 +4 +3 +5 +2 +2. Not easy to ever get comparable results for anyone. But apart from Anand (and of course Kasparov in his three starts) the other top players have scores that look very possible to reach.
|Feb-09-08|| ||sapfy: Carlsen will probably beat Anand's record. Barring the unforseen, he is likely to play every single WaZ for the next 20+ years.|
|Feb-15-08|| ||hitman84: Nursery pot from chessbase :
Finally we get to know more about the writers and journalists whose contributions are overlooked by many chess fans.
This is just hilarious!
Chess players are better footballers :)
|Feb-15-08|| ||Red October: Vladimir Potkin looks like Shirov's brother|
|Feb-15-08|| ||hitman84: I wonder who is the better chess player among the trio Aruna Anand, Sofi Leko and Pilar Molina :)|
|Feb-15-08|| ||slomarko: <I wonder who is the better chess player among the trio Aruna Anand, Sofi Leko and Pilar Molina> who the cares who is the better chess player question is which of the 3 looks best. i vote for Pilar.|
|Feb-15-08|| ||hitman84: umm.. slo, looks like santa disappointed you :p|
|Feb-15-08|| ||Open Defence: I have an Iraninan friend who looks a bit like Sofia Leko|
|Jan-25-09|| ||notyetagm: <Open Defence: I have an Iraninan friend who looks a bit like Sofia Leko>|
|Jan-25-09|| ||Open Defence: <notyetagm> I am a mother lol|
|Jan-25-09|| ||whiteshark: Oops! Wrong year... :D|
|Jan-25-09|| ||NakoSonorense: <whitesshark> Got lost? Here are the directions:|
Corus (2009) xD
|Jan-25-09|| ||notyetagm: <whiteshark: Oops! Wrong year... :D>|
|Jan-25-09|| ||notyetagm: <Open Defence: <notyetagm> I am a mother lol>|
Sorry. Most kibitzers here are male.
|Jan-25-09|| ||whiteshark: Tks <NakoSonorense>. I clicked on Corus w/o any further thought when I realised I'm wrong. I wonder if it's just me, wait, who posted before me...
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