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| Mar-06-08 | | laserlight: <First place, even shared first place, in a tournament with Topalov, Leko, Aronian, Shirov, Carlsen, Ivanchuk and Radjabov is damned impressive.> True, but he is the world champion. He is supposed to be impressive. |
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| Mar-06-08 | | Abejorral: Please God, dont let Anand win, i just hate the way he is doing it, draws, draws.... |
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| Mar-06-08 | | laserlight: <Please God, dont let Anand win, i just hate the way he is doing it, draws, draws....> I think his philosophy is: you win some, you draw some, in that order. |
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| Mar-06-08 | | Abejorral: <Hang on. First place, even shared first place, in a tournament with Topalov, Leko, Aronian, Shirov, Carlsen, Ivanchuk and Radjabov is damned impressive> I dont think so, Kasparov used to win Linares, no sharing first place, and with much more won games against stronger opposition. |
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| Mar-06-08 | | unsound: Anand's won more games than anyone else except Carlsen. |
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Mar-06-08
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Topalov,V - Leko,P
click for larger viewAnalysis by Fritz 11:
1.  (2.75): 41...Rd1 42.Rd6 h6 43.f3 Rb1 44.d5 Rd1 45.Rg7+ Kh8 46.Ra7 Kg8 47.Rc7 h5 48.Rg7+ Kh8 49.Rxg5 Kh7 50.g4 fxg3+ 51.Kxg3 Kh6 52.Kf4 Rf7 53.Rg8 Kh7 54.Re8 Kg6
2. (3.05): 41...Rf1 42.f3 h6 43.d5 Rd1 44.Rd6 h5 45.Rg7+ Kh8 46.Rxg5 Kh7 47.g4 hxg4 48.Rxg4 Rf7 49.Rxf4 Kg6 50.Kg3 Rg1+ 51.Kf2 Rd1 52.Ke3
3. (3.20): 41...g4 42.Rg7+ Kh8 43.Rxg4 f3 44.Ra7 fxg2 45.Kxg2 Rd1 46.Re4 Rg8+ 47.Kf3 Rf8 48.Kg4 Rh1 49.Kf5 Rh6 50.Re6 Rh2 (alexandru123, 06.03.2008)
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Mar-06-08
 | | percyblakeney: Anything can happen in Anand-Topalov in the last round, Topalov is beating Leko and will still have chances to take the title. |
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| Mar-06-08 | | stonebrain2006: Topalov - Leko
41.f6 was just played |
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| Mar-06-08 | | stonebrain2006: Leko answered 41...Re4 |
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Mar-06-08
| | virginmind: 20ply
Topalov,V - Leko,P
click for larger viewAnalysis by Fritz 11:
1. (3.71): 42.Rg7+ Kh8 43.Re7 Rxe7 44.fxe7 Re8 45.Ra7 Kg7 46.d5 Kf7 47.d6 Rb8 48.Rc7 g4 49.Rc8 g3+ 50.Kh3 Rxc8 51.d7 Re8 52.d8Q gxf2 53.Qd5+ Kxe7 54.Qf3 Rd8 55.Qxf2
2. (2.95): 42.d5 Rd4 43.Rg7+ Kh8 44.Rd7 Kg8 45.Rg7+
3. (1.71): 42.Rd6 f3 43.g3 Re2 44.Rg7+ Kh8 45.Rxg5 Rxf2+ 46.Kh3 h6 47.Rg6 Kh7 48.Rg7+ Kh8 49.Ra7 Kg8 50.d5 Rb8 51.Kg4 Rf1 52.Rdd7 f2 53.d6 Re1 (alexandru123, 06.03.2008)
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Mar-06-08
| | virginmind: at 22 ply fritz says 42.Rg7+ is +4.35 |
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| Mar-06-08 | | stonebrain2006: Leko is toasted |
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Mar-06-08
| | dramas79: < <Hang on. First place, even shared first place, in a tournament with Topalov, Leko, Aronian, Shirov, Carlsen, Ivanchuk and Radjabov is damned impressive>
I dont think so, Kasparov used to win Linares, no sharing first place, and with much more won games against stronger opposition.> ...and your point is...? |
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| Mar-06-08 | | slomarko: <Please God, dont let Anand win, i just hate the way he is doing it, draws, draws....> i don't understand why are so many people attacking Anand for his draws. he learned from Kramnik make a couple of wins to take you to +2 or +3 and then draw the rest. |
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Mar-06-08
| | Chess Classics: <znprdx> Eh, I don't really know. Kasparov was okay with Linares 1993 when he got second place to Ivanchuk. Nobody really contested that Kasparov was the champ then (except for Rustam Kamsky, but he was a nutcase.) Whoever wins this tournament has impressed me, whether it's Anand solely or a four-way tie. Regards,
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Mar-06-08
 | | keypusher: <<First place, even shared first place, in a tournament with Topalov, Leko, Aronian, Shirov, Carlsen, Ivanchuk and Radjabov is damned impressive.> True, but he is the world champion. He is supposed to be impressive.> But znprdx seemed to be saying that a shared first <wouldn't> be impressive at all. I disagree. Anyway, having the world champion title doesn't magically make you invincible or unstoppable. We've had primus inter pares champions and dominant champions, and I think Anand falls more into the former category. A champion who wins tournaments constantly for years and years, like Karpov and Kasparov did, is very rare. |
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| Mar-06-08 | | Riverbeast: These guys are playing for draws against Anand with white...what is he supposed to do? He can't win every game. Shirov on the other hand, is getting passed around like a spliff |
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| Mar-06-08 | | Abejorral: <dramas79>
My point is that if Anands wins with shared 1st place, it wont be impressive at all. |
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Mar-06-08
| | percyblakeney: It's hard to complain about Anand not winning enough tournaments, he won Linares last year, as the World Championship, and seems to win Linares again this year. |
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| Mar-06-08 | | Abejorral: <i don't understand why are so many people attacking Anand for his draws. he learned from Kramnik make a couple of wins to take you to +2 or +3 and then draw the rest> So, we should be blaming Kramnik ? :-) |
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Mar-06-08
| | virginmind: 23ply
Topalov,V - Leko,P
click for larger viewAnalysis by Fritz 11:
1. (4.99): 43...Rxe7 44.fxe7 Re8 45.Ra7 Kg7 46.d5 Kf6 47.d6 Rg8 48.d7 Kxe7 49.d8Q+ Kxd8 50.Ra8+ Ke7 51.Rxg8 Kf6 52.Kh3 Kf5 53.Rh8 Kg6 54.Kg4 h6 55.Kf3 h5 56.Ke4 h4
2. (11.52): 43...f3 44.Rxe4 Kg8 45.Re7 g4 46.Rg7+ Kh8 47.Rxg4 h5 48.Rg5 Kh7 49.gxf3 Kh6 50.f4 Rf7 51.d5 Rf8 52.f7+ Kh7 53.Ra7 Kh8 54.Kg3 Kh7 55.d6
3. (11.86): 43...Kg8 44.Rxe4 Kf7 45.Re5 Kg6 46.f7+ Kxf7 47.Rf5+ Kg8 48.Rxg5+ Kf7 49.Rf5+ Kg8 50.Rxf8+ Kxf8 51.Re6 Kf7 52.d5 f3 53.gxf3 h6 54.Kh3 h5 55.Kg3 Kf8 56.d6 Kf7 57.d7 Kxe6 (alexandru123, 06.03.2008)
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Mar-06-08
| | percyblakeney: After today Topalov will have won the last seven decisive games between him and Leko. |
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| Mar-06-08 | | Riverbeast: <My point is that if Anands wins with shared 1st place, it wont be impressive at all.> Maybe not to you.
Winning Category 21 tournaments is always impressive to me |
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Mar-06-08
| | percyblakeney: Now if Leko had drawn that final game in Brissago and been the World Champion now I'm sure there would be some complaints :-) |
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Mar-06-08
| | agoo: Abejorral is getting carried away with his hate of Anand.A fly trying to fight a tiger! |
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