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| Jul-07-08 | | Pjalle: Percy, yes, not much point in a knockout based WC, it would be a joke with little credibility. Either they should make a proper championship cycle or simply forget the whole thing. Chess does not need an official WC, many sports are doing fine without like tennis and golf. The guy that is highest ranked and/or wins the big tournaments is 'the champ'. |
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| Jul-07-08 | | percyblakeney: <Either they should make a proper championship cycle or simply forget the whole thing> One problem with the Grand Prix is that the top players don't like to sign up for lots of tournaments in advance, where they are contractually obliged to participate but FIDE decides when and where the events take place. There's also Corus, Linares, Sofia, Dortmund and many other events to prepare for, and the World Championship cycle seems to be less attractive to the top players nowadays than it was back in the days of the "proper" cycles when players like Spassky, Fischer, Karpov and Kasparov won the title. So if the Grand Prix would continue it would probably also continue to be without most of the top 5. The knockout isn't too popular among the top players either. If for example Kramnik loses against Anand, his only chance to play for the title within 5 years will be through winning the knockout and then the following minimatch. I'm not sure if he would try doing that, and in any case previous knockouts have showed that the winner usually isn't one of the highest rated players. |
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| Jul-07-08 | | arnaud1959: <Pjalle> +1
The "Nr1" system works in general better than the "wc" system. The only disadvantage of the Nr1 system is that sometimes the Nr 1 changes too often and nobody knows anymore who's the best. But this is not a big problem I think. In tennis there was a time where the Nr 1 was constantly changing. Hewitt, Courrier, Moya and others became Nr 1 for a short while but today none of these guys are considered as great champions like Sampras or Federer. For chess it's the same thing. Many players got the "wc" title but after Fischer, Karpov and Kasparov which one of these guys will be remembered in 20 years as the best player? Probably none of them. I admit that Fischer is an exception to the rule. He preserved his title for a very short time but nobody argues about his value as wc. |
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| Jul-07-08 | | Davolni: Congratulations to Leko for winning Dortmund.!!!
:)I wonder was Levon invited? or how do they go as far as invitations in this tournament. Because keeping in mind that the event was in Germany, I'd think Levon wouldn't deny the offer. |
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| Jul-07-08 | | buhomorado: So, now whats the new rating of Chuky afther this tournament? He was 2790, after Aerosvit. Third placed of the world. |
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| Jul-07-08 | | mckmck: Do not under estimaate Kramnik.
Topa when accepted the match with Kramnik, thought of easy win because Kramnik form and health. After the agreement Kramnik started playing great and his health also improved. He went on to win against Topa. Even though i am Anand supporter, I expect and will bet on Kramnik's win. |
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| Jul-07-08 | | percyblakeney: <buhomorado> After Dortmund the top ten looks like this: 1. Anand 2798.0
2. Ivanchuk 2791.5
3. Carlsen 2791.1
4. Morozevich 2788.0
5. Topalov 2777.0
6. Kramnik 2772.9
7. Leko 2746.0
8. Radjabov 2744.0
9. Mamedyarov 2740.8
10. Aronian 2737.0
http://chess.liverating.org/ |
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Jul-07-08
 | | micartouse: <Davolni> Yes, I miss Aronian chess too and he's been at Dortmund before. I look forward to his next classical tournament. |
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| Jul-07-08 | | Refused: if I had to make a guess, I'd say Aronian had an invitation but declined, judging from some of his recent performances he might need a rest. Better to recharge batteries now and then, than overloading your schedule. Another candidate that resides in Germany would have been Kasimdzhanov. Since he lives somewhere near Bonn (that's at least my knowledge it would have been much closer to his home, than to Aronian's, who is living in Berlin. |
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Jul-07-08
 | | plang: Aronian is playing in the second Grand Prix tournament in Sochi starting July 30. |
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| Jul-07-08 | | buhomorado: thanks, percyblakeney.
Could we think Ivanchuk have chances to break the 2800 rating after 2009? sorry, my english is bad.
Whats next for Chuky? |
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| Jul-07-08 | | percyblakeney: <buhomorado> You're welcome! :-) Ivanchuk's next event seems to be the Grand Prix in Sochi, starting already at the end of this month. It's a strong field but if Ivanchuk is in Sofia form he could reach 2800 already there. The participants: Ivanchuk
Radjabov
Aronian
Svidler
Grischuk
Karjakin
Gelfand
Kamsky
Jakovenko
Cheparinov
Wang
Navara
Gashimov
Al-Modiahki |
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| Jul-07-08 | | randzo: what is the next great upcoming event? |
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Jul-07-08
| | plang: There are two tournaments prior to Sochi:
1) Biel (Carlsen)
2)The Poikovsky tournament takes place 8th-17th July 2008. Participants: Alexei Shirov, Dmitry Jakovenko, Sergey Rublevsky, Wang Hao, Ernesto Inarkiev, Andrei Volokitin, Vugar Gashimov, Victor Bologan, Alexander Onischuk and Emil Sutovsky. |
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Jul-07-08
 | | notyetagm: <plang: ...
2)The Poikovsky tournament takes place 8th-17th July 2008. Participants: Alexei Shirov, Dmitry Jakovenko, Sergey Rublevsky, Wang Hao, Ernesto Inarkiev, Andrei Volokitin, Vugar Gashimov, Victor Bologan, Alexander Onischuk and Emil Sutovsky.> Thanks. I thought I was going to start having withdrawal symptoms for the next two weeks until Biel started. Great to see Wang Hao getting a chance to prove himself like Wang Yue did at the FIDE GP Baku. |
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| Jul-07-08 | | Abejorral: Great to see Drawmnik ending 7th, almost end !!!
He got punished twice for playing the petrof, with the only porpuse of obtaining a short draw, he got smashed !!! Anand will <SMASH> him, no doubt !! |
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| Jul-07-08 | | Illogic: You must love Kramnik, he's all you talk about. |
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| Jul-07-08 | | KamikazeAttack: <You must love Kramnik, he's all you talk about.> He doesn't want anyone to forget his hero. |
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| Jul-07-08 | | Bobsterman3000: Kramnik seemed disinterested more than "out of form." Maybe he shouldn't have played (especially with no prize money at stake) and he could have used this time for more WC preparation and rest... |
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| Jul-07-08 | | Kaspablanca: abejorral have a big crush on Kramnik, i am sure about it, but he must know kramnik is married.:) |
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| Jul-07-08 | | yalie: sad to see that there were no Kramnik interviews from Dortmund .. |
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| Jul-07-08 | | yalie: from kramnik.com
<The Dortmund Chess Crown Sparkassen Chess Meeting took place from 28th June to 6th July. A Category 18 event where the participants were: Kramnik, Ivanchuk, Leko, Mamedyarov, Gelfand, Nepomniachtchi, Gustafsson, NaiditschHungarian GM Peter Leko was the clear winner, for the third time in his career. Clear favourite GM Vladimir Kramnik, who had won this event 8 times, performed below all expectations to finish with only 3/7. Kramnik is just focusing in his long awaited match against Anand in October, but anyway, this result was not anticipated.
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| Jul-07-08 | | messachess: <I thought I was going to start having withdrawal symptoms> Yeh, I feel better now too. |
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| Jul-08-08 | | Whitehat1963: Much as I don't like Kramnik either, I suspect he was playing poorly with the sole intent of giving Anand bad ideas, trying to suck him in to playing to Kramnik's strengths. Perhaps I'm a conspiracy theorist, but I can't see any other reason for Kramnik's poor performance in such a mediocre field. |
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Jul-08-08
| | notyetagm: <Whitehat1963: Much as I don't like Kramnik either, I suspect he was playing poorly with the sole intent of giving Anand bad ideas, trying to suck him in to playing to Kramnik's strengths.> Do you really think Anand is that stupid?
<Perhaps I'm a conspiracy theorist, but I can't see any other reason for Kramnik's poor performance in such a mediocre field.> Kramnik being out of form because he plays so rarely never crossed your mind? |
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