chessgames.com
Members · Prefs · Laboratory · Collections · Openings · Endgames · Sacrifices · History · Search Kibitzing · Kibitzer's Café · Chessforums · Tournament Index · Players · Kibitzing

🏆
MATCH STANDINGS
Karjakin - Short Rapid Match

Sergey Karjakin7.5/10(+7 -2 =1)[games]
Nigel Short2.5/10(+2 -7 =1)[games]

 page 1 of 1; 10 games  PGN Download 
Game  ResultMoves YearEvent/LocaleOpening
1. Short vs Karjakin 0-1602008Karjakin - Short Rapid matchB23 Sicilian, Closed
2. Karjakin vs Short 1-0372008Karjakin - Short Rapid matchB12 Caro-Kann Defense
3. Karjakin vs Short 1-0382008Karjakin - Short Rapid matchB05 Alekhine's Defense, Modern
4. Short vs Karjakin 1-0322008Karjakin - Short Rapid matchB23 Sicilian, Closed
5. Short vs Karjakin ½-½572008Karjakin - Short Rapid matchB23 Sicilian, Closed
6. Karjakin vs Short 1-0592008Karjakin - Short Rapid matchB12 Caro-Kann Defense
7. Karjakin vs Short 1-0482008Karjakin - Short Rapid matchA52 Budapest Gambit
8. Short vs Karjakin 1-0942008Karjakin - Short Rapid matchC32 King's Gambit Declined, Falkbeer Counter Gambit
9. Karjakin vs Short 1-0492008Karjakin - Short Rapid matchD37 Queen's Gambit Declined
10. Short vs Karjakin 0-1742008Karjakin - Short Rapid matchC78 Ruy Lopez
  REFINE SEARCH:   White wins (1-0) | Black wins (0-1) | Draws (1/2-1/2)  
 

Kibitzer's Corner
< Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 3 OF 3 ·  Later Kibitzing>
Jul-06-08  Atking: <the results speak for themselves.> yes but not for me.
Jul-06-08  Pyke: Game 7 is over and Karjakin goes 5.5/7 with yet another victory. Perhaps Short should not have played the Budapest Gambit against 1.d4.
Jul-06-08  Augalv: Short won game 8 after 94 moves.
Jul-06-08  offtherook: < Game 7 is over and Karjakin goes 5.5/7 with yet another victory. Perhaps Short should not have played the Budapest Gambit against 1.d4> Short is playing a lot of the same openings I am fond of: closed Sicilian, caro-Kann, Alekhine, budapest, king's gambit.
Jul-06-08  siggemannen: I was watching today's game live and commentators were pretty hillarious. They kept switching evaluation from move to now.

- "Now I think black wins"
- "But now, white definitely wins" etc..

And commentating was done by Tukmakov & Sosonko, both GM's and very strong players.

Jul-06-08  Pyke: <<offtherook> Short is playing a lot of the same openings I am fond of: closed Sicilian, caro-Kann, Alekhine, budapest, king's gambit.>

I was not intending to critizise him per se. It is just, that it seems to me that he plays the same openings as he plays at playchess in blitz games.

It's only that I thought he would choose some more solid approach to this match - perhaps he doesn't take it to seriously and just wants to play some good chess, enjoy himself and prove that he can keep up with the youngsters.

It certainly makes for some great entertainement.

Jul-06-08  waustad: I like seeing some openings that they would never play in a classic time major tourney. Faulkbeer no less. These are partly training and partly entertainment for the audience. As far as Short's form, I would imagine that it is very hard to continue the level of effort that it would take to be 2700+. Many players who get there don't maintain that strength for long. Players with very long peaks seem to be more the exception than the rule. Of course they're the ones we remember so it may lead to selective memory issues.
Jul-06-08  offtherook: <I was not intending to critizise him per se. It is just, that it seems to me that he plays the same openings as he plays at playchess in blitz games> Right, I just found it interesting that he's playing several of the same sub-par openings I can almost get away with at patzer level.Budapest gambit? Even I've given up on that one. But I did love game 8. King's Gambit forever!
Jul-06-08  offtherook: Of course, after game 7 Karjakin had the match clinched, so Short could do whatever he wanted and have fun. He has seemed to get pretty good positions out of the openings, even with his Budapest gambit, but must be falling into time trouble or something along those lines.
Jul-06-08  Udit Narayan: Nice chess match :-)
http://www.svitske.tv/images/0003/4... http://www.svitske.tv/images/0003/4... http://www.svitske.tv/images/0003/4... http://www.svitske.tv/images/0003/4... http://www.svitske.tv/images/0003/4... http://www.svitske.tv/images/0003/4... http://www.svitske.tv/images/0003/4... http://www.svitske.tv/images/0003/4... http://www.chessbase.com/news/2008/...
http://www.chessbase.com/news/2008/...
Jul-06-08  AlekhineKid: I don't understand this match, Wasn't Short Karjakin trainer at one point.
Jul-06-08  offtherook: < I don't understand this match, Wasn't Short Karjakin trainer at one point.> I'm not sure about that, but Karjakin is much younger than Short so he may well have been taught by Short when he was younger and by now have surpassed his teacher. After all, Kramnik was Kasparov's old student before beating him in a match.
Jul-07-08  karik: <I don't understand ...> No, no, no. Karjakin has been assisting and teaching Short for years. Now he trying to demonstrate how good a teacher he is. But it seems his teaching skills are way shorter than playing skills.
Jul-07-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  Marmot PFL: Short had a good position but threw it away in time scramble.
Jul-07-08  Atking: <siggemannen: I was watching today's game live> Where you can see the game in live? I try myself and couldn't?
Jul-07-08  larsen959: for ATking - look earlier kibitzing (the 2nd Web address) chess.life.com.ua the 10th game is a good endgame of Queens!
Jul-07-08  Atking: Thanks <larsen959>! I came too late. It seems that N Short threw it away again in time pressure an equal position.
Jul-07-08  zanshin: I guess the final score is Karjakin 7.5 - Short 2.5. Pretty dominant performance by the young Ukrainian GM.
Jul-07-08  eremite: Just an excellent performance of my young compatriot!
Jul-07-08  Augalv: <eremite: Just an excellent performance of my young compatriot!>

Excellent performance indeed by future world champion Karjakin.

Go Sergey!

Jul-08-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  brankat: Way to go Sergey. Congratulations!
Jul-08-08  amuralid: Go Sergey!
Jul-08-08  offtherook: <future world champion Karjakin.> Karjakin, and also Carlsen. Who else are the up-and-comings who are going to form the next generation of dominant players?
Jul-08-08  Augalv: <offtherook: <future world champion Karjakin.> Karjakin, and also Carlsen. Who else are the up-and-comings who are going to form the next generation of dominant players?>

Agreed <offtherook>, Karjakin <and Carlsen>

Sep-21-08  LINGGIT: Short will beat Karjakin in a World Championship Match.
Jump to page #    (enter # from 1 to 3)
search thread:   
< Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 3 OF 3 ·  Later Kibitzing>
NOTE: You need to pick a username and password to post a reply. Getting your account takes less than a minute, totally anonymous, and 100% free--plus, it entitles you to features otherwise unavailable. Pick your username now and join the chessgames community!
If you already have an account, you should login now.
Please observe our posting guidelines:
  1. No obscene, racist, sexist, or profane language.
  2. No spamming, advertising, or duplicating posts.
  3. No personal attacks against other members.
  4. Nothing in violation of United States law.
  5. No posting personal information of members.
Blow the Whistle See something that violates our rules? Blow the whistle and inform an administrator.


NOTE: Keep all discussion on the topic of this page. This forum is for this specific tournament and nothing else. If you want to discuss chess in general, or this site, you might try the Kibitzer's Café.
Messages posted by Chessgames members do not necessarily represent the views of Chessgames.com, its employees, or sponsors.
Spot an error? Please suggest your correction and help us eliminate database mistakes!


home | about | login | logout | F.A.Q. | your profile | preferences | Premium Membership | Kibitzer's Café | Biographer's Bistro | new kibitzing | chessforums | Tournament Index | Player Directory | Notable Games | World Chess Championships | Opening Explorer | Guess the Move | Game Collections | ChessBookie Game | Chessgames Challenge | Store | privacy notice | contact us
Copyright 2001-2017, Chessgames Services LLC