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|Aug-14-08|| ||PhilFeeley: <Harika>'s win today was pretty shaky. It could have gone to QvsR and a draw after the 50-move rule. I guess Kazimova didn't want to play it out.|
|Aug-14-08|| ||notyetagm: <roberts partner: Safarli has the best tie-break, followed by Braun then Howell.>|
Yes, good point, since the tiebreak is usually based on cumulative score, hence starting out 4/4 gives Safarli the best tiebreak. Of course, the tiebreak only counts in Safarli's favor if he finishes tied for the lead. :-)
So you give the best tiebreak as
So if there is a 10-point tie involving Howell and Negi, then Howell wins it. And if there is a 9 1/2-point tie involving Safarli, then Safarli wins it.
So Howell wins the title if he wins his White game tomorrow against Gupta regardless of what Negi does, while Safarli is a much longer shot, needing
1) a draw in Howell-Gupta
2) Braun to win or draw in Braun-Negi
3) a White win for himself in Safarli-Rodshtein
And Braun could win the title too. He needs
1) a draw in Howell-Gupta
2) a White win for himself in Braun-Negi
3) Rodshtein to win or draw in Safarli-Rodshtein
So it looks like it is theoretically possible that Howell, Gupta, Negi, Braun, and Safarli could all become World Junior Champion tomorrow. Wow.
|Aug-14-08|| ||flockyguy: Sorry guys,i don't know it needs to score ten points or more to win the championship...Anyway thanks for the info...it's just a bit sad that Wesley don't have a chance to win it! I'm rooting for him coz he's a Lone Ranger! hehehe... He is the only one i know who's good in chess from his country...Philippines!!!|
|Aug-14-08|| ||FrogC: Howell will never have a better chance - White on top board and a win for the championship. Good luck, David! And whatever happens, I hope the UK press take some notice.|
|Aug-14-08|| ||notyetagm: <FrogC: Howell will never have a better chance - White on top board and a win for the championship. Good luck, David! And whatever happens, I hope the UK press take some notice.>|
Yes, Howell is completely in control of his destiny: he has the better tiebreak compared to Negi, the only other player who can reach 10 points if Howell wins.
So Howell simply needs to win a White game and he becomes the World Junior Champion.
Too bad that Hou Yifan's donation of a 1/2-point to him now seems to be so critical. How she failed to win that endgame is beyond me.
|Aug-14-08|| ||Ashram64: is Hou Good enough for a GM norm here?|
|Aug-14-08|| ||visayanbraindoctor: <flockyguy: Hi guy's, does Wesley So has still a chance to catch up with the leaders?>|
After all is said and done, what GM Wesley So needs is a professional team of seconds and trainers. Many top European players can afford this, or have sponsors and patrons. In the former Soviet bloc, chess schools exist and tournaments are funded by the new rich of the now independent republics. In China, chess is funded by the state.
On principle, I generally do not comment on Philippine chess players; and in the case of GM So, I have noticed a lot of unrealistic expectations of him in the posts here in CG. IMO this can only hurt him in the long run. Too much expectation can be a psychological bust to chessplayers. I suggest let him develop on his own, without extra pressure; he certainly has the talent to reach at least candidates level in his own sweet time. And I hope he eventually gets a proper team to back him up.
<flockyguy: it's just a bit sad that Wesley don't have a chance to win it! I'm rooting for him coz he's a Lone Ranger! hehehe... He is the only one i know who's good in chess from his country...Philippines!!!>
The Western international version of Chess has been played in the Philippines for a long long time, probably since the Spaniards, who invented it, arrived in the 16th century. The whole Spanish Empire of old probably played it as a past time. Capablanca was a product of this old Spanish Empire, and it just happened he was born in the Cuban colony of Spain, but he could have been born anywhere there, even in the Philippine Islands colony part of the Spanish Empire. Until the 1970s, the Philippines was the strongest chess playing country in Asia, and started producing Grandmasters even then. Unfortunately, the financial infrastructure for chess has never properly existed. Every aspiring Asian chessplayer south of China has to be a 'lone ranger' most of the time, and unless one has the incredible talent of a Capablanca or Anand (who also mostly used to be a 'lone ranger' in the 1980s), non-European, non USA, former non-Soviet bloc chess players cannot hope to glean a professional living out of chess and tend to eventually quit competitive chess to start looking for an economically more decent career.
In India, as with most of Asia, the proper infrastructure for chess did not exist either, but they are lucky that Anand, who I regard as the second most naturally talented chess player in history second only to Capa, was born there; and he has inspired a chess culture in his country (western chess that is; the original version of chess has always been played in India). A Capa (born in a far-flung colony of the old Spanish Empire) or an Anand are genuine 'anomalies', chess geniuses who would rise to the top regardless of their origins.
|Aug-15-08|| ||timhortons: visayanbraindoctor- i chat with one IM from russia at icc and he told me chess is not appealing to kids in russia, theres no money in it.|
he told me maybe theres 50 GM in russia and not all of them recieve sponsorship. some recieve sponsorship from colleges, some from there province.
he told me theres special school that had chess in there curriculumn and not all school has it, some provinces dont even had one.
most russian grandmaster now prefer poker he told me.
by the way hes from seberia.
|Aug-15-08|| ||zluria: Looks like the games started early today.
|Aug-15-08|| ||zluria: Hou Yifan is playing a Yugoslav attack against Le Quang Liem's Sicilian Dragon (I love chess opening names). In that game, White has played Bh6 and the Bishops have been exchanged, and Black immediately replied with the Rxc3 Rook sacrifice. All very usual in this opening.|
|Aug-15-08|| ||zluria: An early draw for Wesley.|
|Aug-15-08|| ||visayanbraindoctor: <timhortons: i chat with one IM from russia at icc and he told me chess is not appealing to kids in russia, theres no money in it.>|
Maayong adlaw. Unfortunately for us in the Philippines, there never was any money in chess in the first place. My impression is that many of our intelligentsia have played it as a past time since Spanish times (my grandfather who was a doctor and his brothers who were professionals and who were born around just at the end of Spanish times were chess aficionados for example), but there have been no true chess professionals yet, who made a regular living out of chess. How many promising players have we had, who later quit serious chess for other careers? We have had a head start among Asian countries because of the Spanish influence, but since our fellow Asians, the Chinese, began funding chess with state funds around the 1970s, we quickly lost our advantage. The Chinese supremacy in Asia started to show pretty clearly in the Olympiad results of Asian countries in the 1970s and 1980s. Since the 1990s and the break-up of the Soviet Union, the central Asiatic countries from that Union have joined the fray, beside a resurgent India inspired by Anand. For the most part hereabouts, chess remains a past time.
The Russian IM is perhaps metaphorically expressing his woes at the present state of chess in Russia. In Soviet times, the state funded chess generously. Karpov, Kasparov and the other Soviet champions are products of the state-funded Soviet school of chess; and its last Mohicans are Kramnik, Morozevich, Svidler, etc. But the trainers are still around; training methods are still in existence; and even though its at a smaller scale, top class Russian-funded tournaments are still ongoing. (For instance, the upcoming Tal Memorial is fundamentally a traditional Russian tournament where foreign players are invited; in the upcoming one, only Leko was not born in a republic of the former Soviet Union). Russians and other ethnic peoples from the old Russian Empire have been playing chess professionally since the time of Chigorin, and its social institutions that support chess are deeply rooted in its culture since the era of the Russian Empire.
IMO the only way for chess to develop professionally in the Philippines is for the government to allocate some funds for it. For example, the PCF could lobby the Philippine government to allocate funds to hire seconds and trainers for GM So, etc.. Just possibilities.
[For <notyetagm>, I know you're in the USA, but since you're a great fan of Chinese players and following them up, you might be getting confused why some Filipinos have Chinese surnames and looks (I look a bit Chinese myself). The answer is that Chinese, especially from Fukien-Amoy, have been traditionally migrating to SouthEast Asia for centuries. So you'll find many Chinese-looking people in Malaysia, the Philippines, etc.)
|Aug-15-08|| ||timhortons: For <notyetagm>, I know you're in the USA, but since you're a great fan of Chinese players and following them up, you might be getting confused why some Filipinos have Chinese surnames and looks -|
ok to put it straight, the surname of our 14 year old grandmaster Wesley So sound chinese, . It is that chinese influence in filipino culture is great.
|Aug-15-08|| ||Strongest Force: Did my girl win yet? Y'all know who i am talking about.|
|Aug-15-08|| ||tsj2000: Well done India! GM Abhijit Gupta defeated David Howell and he is now
World Junior Champion!! Still GM Negi from India has a chance. Anand's chess legend lives on!|
|Aug-15-08|| ||hitman84: It's a grand double for us on Independence day! :)
|Aug-15-08|| ||angslo: <hitman84: It's a grand double for us on Independence day! :)>|
|Aug-15-08|| ||shivasuri4: Abhijeet Gupta is first and Parimarjan Negi is second!|
|Aug-15-08|| ||praddy06: its been a great month for indian chess
Anand winning Chess Classic Mainz
Sasikiran winning Najdorf Memorial
Kidambi winning Badalona International
Abhijeet Gupta winning World Junior Championship
Harika winning Girls World Junior Championship
only Humpy was a disapointment in North Urals Cup hope she wins the world championship starting next month
|Aug-15-08|| ||blueofnoon: <Strongest Force> Yes, Hou Yifan won today after some nice endgame technique - looks like she's quite mature for her age.|
|Aug-15-08|| ||Strongest Force: Thanks, blueofnoon, for your report. Hou is very very mature for her age; and, she is not just "GM strength" anymore, she is a real GM! Her 13 games from this tournament is easily a grandmaster performance. She will be women's world champ some day and she will most-likely be over 2600 by the end of 2008!|
|Aug-15-08|| ||timhortons: <strongestforce> ill take note of woman master hou.|
to indian chess cheers!
these achievement simply state how effective youre system is in chess!
|Aug-15-08|| ||mkrk17: Congrats to Abhijeet Gupta and Harika to win especially on this day (India's indenpendance day)|
|Aug-15-08|| ||notyetagm: <mkrk17: Congrats to Abhijeet Gupta and Harika to win especially on this day (India's indenpendance day)>|
Wow, what a great way for Indian chess players to celebrate their Independence Day! With not one but _TWO_ World Junior Champions!
|Aug-15-08|| ||notyetagm: I just realized that Gupta won the 2008 World Junior Championship title by winning all 5(!) of his last games. Wow. What a money player, reminiscent of Dr. Lasker's great finishes.|
With the title on the line after round 8, Gupta went on a five-game winning streak(!) in rounds 9 thru 13 (5/5!) to win the tournament.
He seemed to come out of nowhere. I followed this event closely and wondered where in the world this Gupta guy was coming from. He suffered two losses earlier on but finished with that incredible 5/5 to take the title.
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