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|Apr-03-10|| ||AuN1: korchnoi never won the title to begin with when he was younger and he was facing the likes of petrosian, spassky, keres, etc. nor did he dominate the way karpov did between '75 and '84.|
|Apr-03-10|| ||HeMateMe: karpov was 35 when Kasparov defeated him. Thats young enough; no excuses.|
|Apr-04-10|| ||percyblakeney: I think Karpov was closer to his peak in 1984-87 than Kasparov was, so it isn't easy to argue that Karpov was the better player of the two.|
|Nov-21-10|| ||PatMartino: Fischer was 29 as a WM|
|Jan-04-11|| ||Maatalkko: <HeMateMe> Actually Karpov only won 3 matches. 87 was a draw.|
|Jan-04-11|| ||HeMateMe: Defending champ has draw odds. A win is a win.|
|Jan-04-11|| ||Petrosianic: And a draw is a draw. Kasparov didn't win that match.|
|Jan-04-11|| ||HeMateMe: Tell that to the good folks at FIDE. Botvinnik's legacy was saved by the draw odds and automatic rematch clause. Kasparov got some benefit from this as well. Almost isn't good enough.|
|Jan-04-11|| ||Maatalkko: Draw odds means champ keeps title if it's a draw. The match was a draw, hence the "draw" odds. Keeping the title isn't the same as winning.|
Botvinnik never won a World Championship match as World Champion. Strange but true.
|Apr-13-11|| ||bronkenstein: Karpov never won a match aginst world champion :) ...and he played so many matches.|
|Apr-13-11|| ||Jim Bartle: I count three matches where Karpov played the WC: 86, 87, and 90. Lost two, drew one.|
|Oct-23-11|| ||visayanbraindoctor: For an analysis of all the games of this match, please go to User: bridgeburner and User: game mapping project, |
part of a project to determine and compare the error rates of key World Championship matches.
|Oct-23-11|| ||visayanbraindoctor: I agree with the write-up above:
<After a draw in the 11th game, Viswanathan Anand defended his title and became the undisputed 15th World Chess Champion.>
Kramnik voluntarily placed his World Title on the line in the 2007 FIDE World Championship Tournament, and so I believe that Anand won it back then fair and square. However, this can still be disputed because Anand did not beat Kramnik in a match. Furthermore, in the two games that they played in the World Championship Tournament, Anand could only draw Kramnik. Additionally, Kramnik also performed strongly to place second. For some of those that believe that Anand won the Title via the WC Tournament, the above circumstances devalue this Title; and for those that dispute, Anand never became champion at all (in 2007). This match definitively settles the question of who holds the Title. Anand has now become the Undisputed 15th World Chess Champion.
|Oct-23-11|| ||andrewjsacks: The braindoctor, as usual, is a great asset here. Thank you once again.|
|Oct-24-11|| ||bronkenstein: <Anand was playing just a tad better than Kramnik, Lasker and Schlechter> Well , who could imagine better compliment ?|
PS <bridgeburner> + <visayan> , THAT`S what I call contribution . BTW phenomenal opinion/fact ratio . But I will stop here , you might feel unpleasant ... =)
|Jul-06-12|| ||Eyal: In a recent lecture, Anand talks about his strategy for this match - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSOw..., from about 22:45 to 24:00. He says it "succeeded beyond his wildest dreams", especially since he prepared three special "ambush-variations" and Kramnik walked into each and every one of them.|
|Jul-06-12|| ||micartouse: I suspect Kramnik expected game 1 to go differently. In the well known interview with Tkachiev, he made the following comments:|
<Heís got an amazing ability to constantly stretch himself so that even in some kind of Exchange Slav he nevertheless manages to attack something and create something.>
<In the match against Anand everything went wrong from the very beginning, just as it did for Kasparov in his match against me. Iím actually a fatalist to a degree, and feel that if thatís how something goes then thatís how it was fated to happen.>
I think those comments are sort of tells into his mindset. His previous 3 matches, he got a big advantage by starting conservatively. I think game 1 when Anand had the better of the draw, it spooked Kramnik.
|Jul-06-12|| ||micartouse: Oh, I already said so on the game page. I need new ideas.|
|Jul-14-12|| ||Karpova: Anand: <Though I would say with Vlady it is tough. You look at that match. I mean, when your first game goes like that, you think, youíve done everything wonderfully and you think, you are a great match player. But in the games that followed I simply understood Vlady made some tactical errors. He challenged my preparation in an area (the Meran) where probably he didnít pay any attention to this sub-variation I played against him. He simply walked into an ambush. And that explains the huge score differential. Iíll be honest. For the rest of my life with Vlady, our results have been more or less even. Tending one way or the other, but basically even. And after a lifetime of such equilibrium you are winning by three points after six games, itís clear something went dramatically wrong with him. Now I feel you also have to be lucky. Vlady got in almost none of his preparation, I got in almost all of mine, and that happens just once in a while. He just walked into an ambush and that changed everything. The remaining games of our match did not go anywhere like that. And you have to remind yourself, this is probably normal and that was the exceptionally good day. You are not going to win that lottery every day.>|
|Oct-05-13|| ||offramp: First!
Or perhaps I should edit my ignore list.
|Sep-27-15|| ||jith1207: Ha Ha! <Offramp>|
|May-14-16|| ||thegoodanarchist: Anand's confidence must have been sky high after his second consecutive win with the Meran variation:|
Kramnik vs Anand, 2008
|Aug-02-19|| ||Chesgambit: too late Kramnik vs Anand match|
|Aug-25-19|| ||Caissanist: From an interview with Kramnik at chess.com:
<Your reign as champion ended with the 2008 defeat to Vishy Anand. What went wrong in that match for you?
He was just better in everything! I was too slow. I had sensed that chess was changing, but I didnít adjust. He used incredible, high-level computer preparation, certain tools I didnít use. I didnít think it was so important, and by the middle of the match, I realized it was basically over.
Heís an absolutely great player, and in fantastic shape, so even if I had been better prepared, Iím not sure I would beat him. It was just a bit of a pity because it was a fantastically organized match, a lot of interest, and somehow I didnít manage to put up a real fight. The sporting element was more or less over after six games, and I felt a bit like Iíd betrayed the sponsors and the public.
Everyone was expecting a tough, exciting match between two equals and it was quite one-sided. But you have to lose one day. I donít consider myself some kind of genius, so frankly, even being world champion three times is more than I thought I would achieve. I had to lose it sooner or later, and Vishy was probably the best opponent to lose to.>
|Aug-25-19|| ||fabelhaft: <Your reign as champion ended with the 2008 defeat to Vishy Anand>|
Or rather when Anand won the title in 2007.
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