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|Oct-20-08|| ||Ipecac: "I have just lend the crown to Anand"
"Iīm incredibly solid"
|Oct-20-08|| ||shach matov: <you think Kramnik is in top form> Not just me, Kram's fan and massive kibitzer <acirce>,among others, thinks so too.|
|Oct-20-08|| ||The Rocket: There is nothing to beg for its just for Kramnik to through in a kings indian if in fact Anand will continue with d4(which seems most likely).|
yes it can lead to sharp position were kramnik might have to use up aloth of time but the situation is desperate now and queens gambit declined is very drawish especially when white wants to.
|Oct-20-08|| ||PhilFeeley: I thought everyone here might like this. Hal bond is an IA from Canada at the match in an official capacity. He's blogging daily from the match on the Chess Canada website (http://www.chesscanada.info/forum/f...)|
Here is some of what he has to say about Game 5:
<Another White bites the dust! Anand goes up 2 games.
The day started with a visit from a German TV station (MRD?) who interviewed Werner and were then granted permission to follow us through our pregame routine on stage and backstage. They aired about an hour ago and they promised Werner a DVD of their proposed 2.5 minute clip. As game time approached I was chatting with GM Ian Rogers' wife Cathy when Anand suddenly arrived and I had to rush off mid sentence.
Anand retreated three times today to his private area. On the first occasion I could see from my monitor that he was struggling to open a container. He came out of his room. I met him in the hallway and he asked for some help to open his flask of hot chocolate. The lid was far too snug but I could not fail him! When presented the open flask he looked at me and said "ah, stronger". So I am stronger than Anand. Hmmm.
I give Kramnik a lot of credit. Almost all of the questions at the post game press conference were directed at him, and he was great. They asked about the repeat variation and he was ready for it. He granted that anand made some very nice preparation but " My team has also done some work. It's a sharp game and one mistake can decide the game... Nd4 was a blunder of course, I didn't see ...Ne3" This move does happen at the end of the combination, about 5 moves later mind you.
According to the prematch bulletin, Kramnik had won 6 times with white prior to the match, while Anand had won 4 games- 2 whites and 2 blacks. Now their career score is 6-6 and Anand has won 4 times with Black! Israel Gelfer was suggesting that this is the first time in the history of the World Championship that black has scored the first 2 wins.
We shared a ride to the hall today with Illescas, who is doing the Spanish commentary. I suggested that Kramnik's team would not have had much of a rest day yesterday. He almost disagreed. "Anand's team too, they will have to work hard to find new surprises." I wonder if he will change his mind. I sure wouldn't want to be Leko or Rublevsky right now. Kramnik was asked point blank if the match has become desperate. He smiled "Well it could be better...(applause) Being minus 2 is a difficult situation, but there are still a few games to go and we will see what happens">
|Oct-20-08|| ||kamalakanta: Hi! I found this site to be quite interesting:
It has a link to various interviews with Vladimir KramniK. To read these is a good way to get to know the man AND the player...
Question: When there were these short draws they were heavily criticized. There was a lot of negative press. Do you understand this criticism?
Kramnik: Itís a complicated matter. From one side I can understand this, but basically, I may be subjective, I may be wrong, but still I think this criticism is not justified. Itís about your philosophy, how you see things. I believe, and now I may be a bit too harsh, that there should be more respect for the players. Iím not arrogant, I am not trying to present myself as a big star, but I think there should be more human understanding and respect. First of all, there are short draws like in the third game. What can you do? Itís completely drawish, it would be ridiculous to continue playing. Then there were a couple of games where we agreed a draw in a more or less playable position, but there were not too many of these. These draws you have to understand. A player can feel badly, anything. Amateurs want to see a game, but we are also entitled to some understanding from them, that sometimes you have certain problems. For example, if I go to a concert of a great pianist or violinist, I respect this person so much that if he plays 15 minutes and then says, I am sorry, Iím not able to play, okay, I donít mind, because I know how high is his level, how hard he works and how much he gives of himself. In fact, how much he sacrifices to achieve what he achieves. This is a matter of respect. I donít know what happened, why in the years that we may almost call the golden period of chess, there was so much respect for chess players. Petrosian and Spassky had no fewer quick draws than us, but they were maestros and could afford it. Because in the next game they would do something enjoyable for us, they would give us a present, some nice fight. We agreed that sometimes they needed to rest, whatever...í
Site with various interviews with Vladimir Kramnik
|Oct-20-08|| ||GeauxCool: Is Kramnik just trying to develop Vishy's Variation as a contribution to theory?|
|Oct-20-08|| ||kamalakanta: From the same Kramnik Interview (2005) Part 1
Question: I see you coming back after the first game saying, guys, we have a problem. Our schedule has been turned completely upside-down.
Kramnik: Yes, of course, I didnít expect this turn of events. In the first game you play something solid to get into the match. Of course it can happen that you win, but itís a completely new situation after Game 1 already. Probably I didnít do very well in this situation.í
Question: Was it psychologically difficult?
Kramnik: Well, psychologically it is still more difficult to be behind. You can say that everything is difficult psychologically, but this is basically easier to deal with. I donít know what happened after this game but for a while I lost touch. I was having problems with white, not getting much. And Peter was playing very solidly with white. Before the match I was thinking that we would both press with white and that we would have complicated games. But somehow it started to become a little bit dry, not because we wanted to, but simply because we couldnít find the keys with the white colour. Something was wrong for some strange reason. Maybe I got too confident after this early win and thought that nothing could happen, that everything was under control, and in Game 5 I paid for this. Partly because I was too relaxed. í
Question: The second game you lost was beautifully played by Leko, but on the other hand it was clear that something went seriously wrong in your preparation.
Kramnik: It was an incredibly strange coincidence. It was a brilliant game from Peterís side, because over the board it was not easy to find all these moves in such a sharp position, but from my side it was stupidity. It was clearly a hole in my preparation, but it was a very strange hole. We analysed this whole line and then some hours before the game we found this idea with 18...Nf6 and 21...Qg6. We briefly checked 22.Ne4, okay White is slightly better, but Black can hold. Then somehow we got this idea of 22.ab5, but there was very little time to check it. We looked at 22.ab5, did some analysis, it seems that White is better. Of course, I understood how dangerous it is, but the fact that we ended up in this position after 25...Qd3, was a complete coincidence. If Peter had not had 19 minutes but, say, 49 minutes in this position after 21...Qg6, I would, of course, sit quietly and find all this and never play ab5. But he was clearly under pressure, clearly suffering and while he was taking all this time and thinking about 21...Qg6, I made this decision. I was in the rest room and decided to play fast, not to give him time to think. To put further psychological pressure on him by responding immediately. I was checking variations and I already saw queen d3, but I thought it was just a perpetual. After all we had probably checked this with a computer so it shouldnít be lost, because otherwise the computer would have shown that such a position is clearly lost. I was also checking 22.Ne4 again and thought it is probably drawish, and then, just two minutes before he made his move, I decided that if he played 21...Qg6, I would play 22.ab5 immediately and just see what would happen. Of course, it was fully my mistake, I should have thought, no matter how much time he had. This kind of thing had never happened to me before. You are White, you play all moves according to your preparation and you shake hands. This is something unbelievable, especially in a world championship match with a limited number of games and an incredibly tough opponent. You just give a point with white. I donít know if this ever happened in a world championship match before.í
Question: Was it easier to cope with because it was such a coincidence?
Kramnik: No, for me it would be easier to lose normally. This can happen. Still, I started to play better after this. This is something I HAVE NOTICED VERY OFTEN: THAT AFTER A LOSS I PLAY BETTER. So it was both a blow and it helped me in a way to play better. In world championship matches one of the most important things is not to make, in tennis language, unforced errors. This you shouldnít do. You really should make your opponent suffer before he can beat you. He really has to show everything, but just giving a point like this is strictly forbidden.í
|Oct-20-08|| ||kamalakanta: From the same Kramnik Interview (2005) Part 2
Question: Leko miraculously saved a couple of his black games. Were there moments when you began to despair that you were never going to tear down his defences?
Kramnik: I NEVER LOST HOPE, not even before the last game. There was something I had, probably wrongly, put into my mind. Some time ago, I donít remember for what reason, I was checking all world championship matches. I cannot speak about the matches of Steinitz and Chigorin, because this was different chess, but for instance if you start with Lasker and Capablanca, when it is already becoming serious, I noticed something interesting. It never happened that the one who played worse or not better than his opponent, managed to win. The outcome was always fully deserved. The person who won or kept the title was at least not worse than his opponent. Not in one single match. Here I had the feeling that I didnít play worse. Maybe I didnít play much better than Peter, but I didnít have the feeling I was playing worse. And thatís why I had this psychological thing that I should not lose this match. According to this idea I should equalise the score and not lose the match. (Smiles) But of course one thing is to think about this, another thing is reality. I might not have won this last game and then my theory would have been proven wrong.í
Question: Judging by the 13th and 14th games an outsider might say that if you had played more aggressively sooner, you wouldnít have had these problems.
Kramnik: Partly you are right but it is also about your opponent. In a way Peter also became a bit too defensive, he allowed me to play more aggressively. In a match itís always about both players; you are never alone in a match. I allowed him to play as he did in the middle of the match and here it was partly his fault that he allowed me to press really hard. You can call this a mistake, but it is unavoidable. When I played against Garry, he was also pressing very hard at the end of the match. Weíre humans. You are very close, you want to make a draw, you want to defend, you want to take the title. Even with a lot of experience you do this.í
|Oct-20-08|| ||SetNoEscapeOn: <cannibal>
That seems like the sensible course, but also both players have to take into account what they've prepared over so many months. I would guess that includes different weapons for different match situations, but this was a difficult one to have anticipated.
Kramnik was talking about black's position when he said "I'm incredibly solid" in the game 4 press conference. He wasn't bragging.
I don't know, maybe Anand should play e4, especially since he has two whites in a row. This might give Kramnik's team more to think about over the rest day It's true they must understand that he could switch to e4 at any moment. But it seems like until he actually plays e4, they don't have to do any work on it; they can still use the preparation they did before the match.
|Oct-20-08|| ||kamalakanta: Here are some Anand interviews:
|Oct-20-08|| ||acirce: <he has to play something where Anand can't just make an easy draw, even if he wants to. Maybe not yet Benoni time, but Orthodox Queen's Gambit won't do the trick.>|
It makes sense, but what do you suggest? The Semi-Slav I guess would otherwise be ideal - ambitious yet perfectly sound, and Kramnik knows a lot about it - but the problem is that his opponent also knows one thing or two, and recently even won a couple of fairly impressive games with it...
But OK, it might be a bit uncomfortable for Anand playing it from the White side. I don't know.
Then it's a question about move orders. If we're working with the premise that Anand should not be allowed to "just make an easy draw, even if he wants to" we'd have to avoid making the Slav Exchange possible ;-) Maybe 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 again and now 3.Nf3 d5 4.Nc3 c6 or if 3.Nc3 play 3..Bb4 as usual. The Nimzo is decent for winning chances too. Especially if Anand plays 4.f3 again, and he can't have prepared that many different lines.
|Oct-20-08|| ||PerfectMoves: <shach matov: This is turning into a pretty disastrously and humiliating match for Kramnik fans and puts his match with Kasparov in 2000 in perspective.>|
Once again more crap from the biased Kramnik basher team. Why bringing again the Kasparov match at this moment? This is the Anand vs. Kramnik match, there's no need to mix things.
All Anand's fans should remember that this match isn't over yet. It's simply naivetť, or something worst, to consider Kramnik dead at this early point of the match.
In the past Anand has collapsed in other matches, there's nothing indicating it couldn't happen again.
|Oct-20-08|| ||bharatiy: <Perfectmoves> even if whatever you say to Anand's fan may be true, to say the match is in early stage is wrong its almost at half stage. Not at all early stage after g3 probably you could have said that. Also if we have to go into past Kramnik has never been two down in match. Whatever Anand's past you are recollecting is either 13 years before or 18 years before. The match is not over, for sure, but to score three wins with three whites for Kramnik is little difficult now.|
|Oct-20-08|| ||bharatiy: <PerfectMoves> you are asking Matov not to bring 2000 match with Kasparov, but you are bringing Anand's 1995 match, that's little hypocritical.|
|Oct-20-08|| ||acirce: What if Kramnik tries this weapon? You'd think it would work?|
To the Organizing Committee
of the match Kramnik vs Anand
To the Appeals Committee
To all mass media
Ladies and Gentlemen,
The careful study of the video recordings from the rest rooms done by the technical experts of the Russian team revealed the following facts which we would herewith like to bring to your attention:
1. After each move Mr. Anand immediately heads to the rest room and from it directly to the bathroom. During every game he visited the relaxation room 25 times at the average and the bathroom more than 50 times Ė the bathroom is the only place without video surveillance.
2. Unlike Mr. Anand, the World Champion Vladimir Kramnik spends his time mainly at the playing table. The average number of times he visited the rest room and the bathroom is 8 and 4 respectively.
A short statistical sample derived from the camera recordings in the rest room during the third game shows:
15.54 Ė Anand plays move 15
15.55 Ė Goes into the bathroom
15.56 Ė Goes out of the bathroom
15.57 Ė Goes into the bathroom
15.59 Ė Goes out of the bathroom
16.03 Ė Goes into the bathroom
16.04 Ė Goes out the bathroom
16.07 Ė Comes out for move 16
The behavior of Mr. Anand is very similar to the above during all games played so far.
The logical question arises: How many times during a game does a player need to go to the bathroom and with what regularity? The logical answer is: between 5 -10 times at the most, but not 50 as the statistics from the games played so far shows.
We would like to once again remind you that the bathroom is the only place without video or audio surveillance.
In our opinion these facts are quite strange, if not suspicious.
In relation to the above, and to ensure the best conditions for fair play and rule out all suspicions we demand:
1. To stop the use of the rest rooms and the adjacent bathrooms for both players.
2. If a player needs to go to the bathroom, he can use the public bathroom, but only with permission from the Arbiter and accompanied by an assistant arbiter.
3. The Organizing Committee should present the video tapes from the rest rooms to all journalists accredited in the press-center so that they can verify for themselves the facts described by us.
Should this extremely serious problem remain unsolved by 10.00 oíclock tomorrow (October 21th, 2008), we would seriously reconsider the participation of the World Champion Vladimir Kramnik in this match.
Manager of the Russian team>
|Oct-20-08|| ||Jim Bartle: Hmmm, something rings a bell somewhere, can't put my finger on it...|
|Oct-20-08|| ||Red October: <acirce> you could add a chapter on how Anand has played 1.d4 all of a sudden and perhaps some % correlation with the new Rybka 3 Book ?|
|Oct-20-08|| ||badest: <acirce: What if Kramnik tries this weapon? You'd think it would work?> LOL! Too bad Anand doesn't go to the bathroom too much... :D Maybe Kramnik should hire Danailov as a coach though ... hehehehe. ;)|
|Oct-20-08|| ||samikd: <acirce> What about the Queen's Indian ? (Unless Anand allows the Nimzo Indian, which I don't think he will ). Its not the most attacking try for Black, but at least is sharper than the QGD.
With Rublevsky in his team, Vlady might even try the Queen's gambit accepted. He has played it in the past. Problem is, just like the semi slav, Anand used to 'know a thing or two' about the QGA in the nineties|
|Oct-20-08|| ||jhoro: <acirce: 1. After each move Mr. Anand immediately heads to the rest room and from it directly to the bathroom.>|
according to the arbiter Hal Bond
Kramnik still outperforms Anand in this department by a wide margin:
<Anand departed to his private quarters twice during the game. Kramnik left the stage 13 times from move 11-27, and on 10 occasions he used the loo. I snuck in for a random check while he was on move 16. As usual, nothing was awry.>
|Oct-20-08|| ||SetNoEscapeOn: <acirce>
They have to stop him now, before the rapid games. There, they have a foolproof system.
|Oct-20-08|| ||yogi1986: He should play the Botvinnik system! Somebody should make a phone call and make-up with a certain Latvian.|
|Oct-20-08|| ||acirce: <samikd> Yes, I guess the Queen's Indian is plausible. It is strategically complex and it's not that easy for White to kill all play. But certainly White should not have to lose against it either with solid play. Besides, Anand has actually used 1.d4 a few times specifically against Adams in recent years when he expects the QID. So he does have some experience and knowledge about it from the White side.|
The QGA on the other hand sounds more odd as a winning weapon. It's more like a 1.d4 equivalent to Petroff...
|Oct-20-08|| ||yogi1986: acrice what do you think of Kramnik playing the Botvinnik system with dxc4 assuming Anand would go for Bg5?|
|Oct-20-08|| ||acirce: <yogi1986> I think that it has probably gone out of fashion on super-GM level for a reason. It's probably just not good enough. Not that I personally have any idea, but I think there is a bit of consensus about that. However, if Noomen is right... http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail...|
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