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Topalov-Kamsky Match

Veselin Topalov4.5/7(+3 -1 =3)[view games]
Gata Kamsky2.5/7(+1 -3 =3)[view games]

TOPALOV vs KAMSKY
Sofia, Bulgaria, Feb. 17-27 2009

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Game  ResultMoves Year Event/LocaleOpening
1. Topalov vs Kamsky ½-½35 2009 Topalov-Kamsky MatchD86 Grunfeld, Exchange
2. Kamsky vs Topalov 0-132 2009 Topalov-Kamsky MatchC65 Ruy Lopez, Berlin Defense
3. Topalov vs Kamsky ½-½37 2009 Topalov-Kamsky MatchD81 Grunfeld, Russian Variation
4. Kamsky vs Topalov 1-073 2009 Topalov-Kamsky MatchC92 Ruy Lopez, Closed
5. Topalov vs Kamsky 1-055 2009 Topalov-Kamsky MatchC07 French, Tarrasch
6. Kamsky vs Topalov ½-½43 2009 Topalov-Kamsky MatchB12 Caro-Kann Defense
7. Topalov vs Kamsky 1-045 2009 Topalov-Kamsky MatchC07 French, Tarrasch
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Feb-26-09  WhiteRook48: Topalov is definitely going to win
Feb-26-09  tud: Kamski was OK prepared in openings but he missed the territory advantage which is pretty important (when shall we see the first match in USA ??). I also have the feeling that he emerged well from French defense (good job Sutovski) but failed later because he was not very aquainted with the position.
Feb-26-09  Paragua: I bet for Anand against Topalov in the World Championship. Anand please defeat this guy..
Feb-26-09
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  HolyKnight: I can hardly wait for Topalov to say Anand is getting help from a computer from his shoe phone.
Feb-26-09
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  drkodos: s4life: "From most of the comments I've seen criticizing the players, one would think most of those kybitzers can beat Kamsky in a match and Topalov is just a has-been, a lucky player who did nothing to win. Alas, I sometimes wish Rybka wouldn't exist."

Wounded ducks.

Feb-26-09
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  SetNoEscapeOn: <Petrosianic>

<That's like saying Fischer-Kovacevic proved Fischer would lose to Topalov. It's nonsense. Let's keep the worship services in the designated Fischertarian threads.>

No, you do not understand. Whenever a Fischer fan on this site says "Fischer", they do not mean Bobby Fischer, they specifically mean Bobby Fischer during the candidates matches of 1971 and the first half of the Fischer-Spassky match in 1972. Then they identify (or wait for) weak or inaccurate games by modern players, and compare them with "Fischer". The goal is always to say "Aha, this proves that Fischer was much stronger than the players today".

So never mind the fact that Topalov and Kamsky have played much, much better chess in the past than they showed in this match. Forget that Topalov has played some of the most amazing attacking and sacrificial games in chess history over the last four years.

Of course it goes without saying that one should never be so silly as to think that it is relevant that Fischer was destroyed 4-0 by Tal during the 1959 candidates; or that he lost 7 games in the 1962 candidates tournament; or that he drew (technically lost) a match with a declining Sammy Reshevsky. It is always the 1971-1972 Fischer vs whatever example they can find that allows them to uphold and strengthen their Fischer Faith. Understood?

Feb-26-09
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  talisman: Understood... 1971-1972...two pretty good years for Fischer. you see in '72 Fischer was a lil bit older than he was in '62.
Feb-26-09
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  AgentRgent: <visayanbraindoctor: Are you a history teacher?> Yes

<I have heard that Governor General/ President/ Chief Justice Taft suffered from a meningioma, a brain tumor; and that Dr. Harvey Cushing, the great American Neurosurgeon, operated on him. Do you have details on this?> I have no information on Taft ever having a brain tumor. He was known to be obese and hypertensive, almost certainly had sleep apnea, and it has been suggested that he was hypersomnolent. I do know that Dr. Cushing and Taft corresponded on at least one occasion, on Dec. 14, 1926 but I do know know what the letter contained.

<Or was it another American President or Presidentiable that Dr. Cushing operated on? I am not sure of the details of these events.. I may be entirely mistaken.> I know that President Grover Cleveland had surgery for maxillary cancer performed by W.W. Keen in 1893, but I know of no American President who had surgery for a brain tumor.

Feb-26-09
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  socratead: I cannot understand all this venom and contradiction. It was a nice chess match. The players did their best. The games were entertaining. I wish success and I congratulate both the winner and the loser! It seems to me that they play better chess that us, the kibitzers anyway... I really want to see Anand - Topalov now!
Feb-26-09
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  NakoSonorense: Anand's next in Topalov's bucket list.

Go Topa!

Feb-26-09
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  visayanbraindoctor: <AgentRgent> Wow thanks for all the info!

Feb-26-09
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  visayanbraindoctor: Kamsky should have at least 10 years left of his career. He should not retire. But he better think of re-managing his time on the chess clock if he wishes to get back to the Candidates in the future. Kamsky self-destructed in his troubles with the clock.

Anand and Topalov are now the best in the world; and have proven it over the board. So they do deserve to play the next World Championship match. I am scared though of what the Topalov camp will do to the institution of the Chess World Championship succession if Topalov beats Anand.

Feb-26-09
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  visayanbraindoctor: Suddenly I am thinking: Isn't there a special FIDE clause that allows Kamsky to play in the next cycle's Candidates? He should not retire by all means. Instead he could endeavor to improve his time management.
Feb-26-09
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  chancho: According to the news report, they will play the 8th game. Quite frankly this makes no sense.
The match has already been decided.
Must be part of the match contract.

http://www.novinite.com/view_news.p...

Feb-26-09  sillybilly47: Topa beats Anand.
Feb-26-09  SBB: I think that your link is incorrect. The official site says that the closing ceremony will take place tomorrow.
Feb-26-09  znprdx: <Feb-26-09 znprdx: 25...Ba4 was brilliant (instead of the ugly ..Bc8)After spending the losing one-hour on it –it is a tragic irony that this led naturally to the 32...Bd3 line (I’m curious how many players would find that under pressure – I presume Rybka was the source for this ) Wouldn’t 27 ...Qb2!? be better than ..Qc4> instead of all this mindless 'yadda-yadda' could we please discuss the CHESS - it was an amazing battle....
Feb-26-09  vanytchouck: <chancho: According to the news report, they will play the 8th game. Quite frankly this makes no sense. The match has already been decided.
Must be part of the match contract.

http://www.novinite.com/view_news.p...;
Maybe in rapid.

The four last games (21-24) of the 1993 Kasparov vs Short match, were rapid games.

Feb-27-09  arnaud1959: <chanco><SBB> It doesn't matter anyway. If they play I'm sure they will agree for a quick draw and the game would be part of the closing ceremony.
Feb-27-09
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  LIFE Master AJ: So Mr. Topalov wins. Congrats to him, but I am sure that GM Kamsky is a little disappointed. (I was rooting for Gata, as he now represents the USA.)
Feb-27-09
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  LIFE Master AJ: Or is the match over?
Feb-27-09  arnaud1959: <fromoort: "Gata go retire now." Bye.> No, I think for the first time in his life Gata has the opportunity to play without pressure on him. Easy to say but hard to do. I, myself love chess but I'm not a competition guy and I can lose any game because of the pressure I build on myself. As an adult it's time to decide for him to play for fun.
Feb-27-09
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  Sokrates: <SetNoEscapeOn> Thanks for setting this straight. Fischer was great, indeed, but the mythology spun around him often becomes one-sighted. As we all know the greatest (chess)tragedy about Fischer was his reluctance of playing a match with Karpov. Sadly, chess history has many examples of matches that should have taken place but for various reasons never became reality (a much earlier Lasker-Tarrasch match, a Rubinstein-Lasker match, a Capablanca-Aljechin return-match, a Botwinnik-Alechin match, matches with Keres versus Botwinnik/Bronstein/Smyslov and more recently: Shirov-Kasparov and Kramnik-Kasparov return).
Feb-27-09  didiablito: <SetNoEscapeOn> Great comment!
Feb-27-09
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  capatal: <SetNoEscapeOn> Spot on!
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