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|May-10-09|| ||Ladolcevita: Great to see Kramnik's "return of the lord"!!!
Anand,Karjakin,Shirov,Radjabov are fine,while others are not in the same level.
|May-10-09|| ||samikd: Kramnik ruled. Its great to see him back in form like this. Anand's wasn't too far behind. These 2, and the others to some extent humiliated the Azeris. |
I am not saying anything new, am I ? :)
|May-10-09|| ||BadKnight: round1 game3. black is vladimir shirov lol|
|May-10-09|| ||jhoro: <notyetagm: I just told *you* to check out that same brilliant Kramnik move, 29 ... Rf8-f1!!.>|
29...Rf1!! <notyetagm>, <DCP23> are you guys on Kram's special lemonade or my Rybka is all confused. 30.Rh4 by Mamedyarov would have been lights out for Kramnik. And 30.Rh4 is not that difficult of a move to find either. it blocks the h-file and attacks the queen
|May-10-09|| ||samikd: Kramnik plays 1.e4, wins 5 out his 8 games ...what the hell is happening in today's world ? The US economic collapse seems trivial in comparison|
|May-10-09|| ||BushWhacker: take this pseudo-world team to Armenia, and we will teach azeris how to win game after games, when you are playing in your own hometown!|
I really use to think Huseinov and Hashemov are new stars among Azeri chess players ready to overpass Shark and Rajabov in no time, but alas after reviewing their games and results in this encounter, they were just meteors shining down from the night sky!
|May-10-09|| ||SetNoEscapeOn: <apple pi: The pressure on Mamedyarov to beat Kramnik in the last round must have been enormous, whereas Kramnik was guaranteed a +4 score>|
You mean +3, he was +4 when the game started.
|May-10-09|| ||apple pi: Right you are!|
|May-10-09|| ||s4life: <samikd: Kramnik plays 1.e4, wins 5 out his 8 games ...what the hell is happening in today's world ? The US economic collapse seems trivial in comparison>|
Not at all, it's called "rapid format".
|May-10-09|| ||WhiteRook48: 1. e4 wins 5/8? Has the world turned upside down? 1. e4 should lose all the time, as shown in Murphy-Endon (0-1)|
|May-10-09|| ||kamalakanta: <jhoro: <notyetagm: I just told *you* to check out that same brilliant Kramnik move, 29 ... Rf8-f1!!.>|
29...Rf1!! <notyetagm>, <DCP23> are you guys on Kram's special lemonade or my Rybka is all confused. 30.Rh4 by Mamedyarov would have been lights out for Kramnik. And 30.Rh4 is not that difficult of a move to find either. it blocks the h-file and attacks the queen>
Apparently it WAS difficult to find...maybe they were both in time pressure.
I admit, Rh4 is a killer. But when I looked at this game, it did not even cross my mind. Part of the problem might be that after Rh1, the White bishop at b1 is blocked by that same rook on e4.
This is what makes chess hard! Even world-class players miss moves, make blunders, etc. Wasn't it Petrosian who overlooked a mate in 1 against Korchnoi? And left his Queen hanging against Bronstein? And yet Petrosian was considered by his peers as a tactician! So anybody can have a bad day at the office.
I've seen great tennis players miss shots that are not that hard to do; the list goes on and on...
Chess players get tense, fatigued, confused. Computers do not. This does not, in my opinion, make computers better players. A player is by definition a human being, with all his/her virtues and frailties. A computer is a pure calculator; it is a whole different story.
For the mathematical side, computers are ideal.
But real chess games are played by real people. Someone has to make a mistake; otherwise all games would end in draws.
|May-10-09|| ||kamalakanta: <Vasilyev90>
I agree with you. It is still chess among top world-class players. Chess is chess, whether it is blitz, Rapid, Active or Classical.
|May-10-09|| ||shintaro go: A win is a win may it be classical, rapid, or blitz.|
|May-10-09|| ||jhoro: <kamalakanta>, the long lecture on computers vs humans was unnecessary. all i was saying is that giving !! to 29...Rf1 was stretching it. !! should be reserved for brilliant crashing moves. my point was that even after Rf1 Kramnik was still losing and although Mamedyarov missed the best response and lost his advantage he had a draw for another dozen of moves. imo !? is more appropriate|
|May-11-09|| ||eternaloptimist: Well, we can't call Kramnik - Drawnik now. He got a +5 score in this match. The World Team opened up a 55 gallon drum of whoop ass on the Azerbaijanis. This is surprising considering the Azerbaijanis are doing so well in the World Grand Prix point standings. Radjabov got the best score on their team, & he only broke even. All of the rest of the Azerbaijanis got negative scores. Amazing!|
|May-11-09|| ||Bobsterman3000: If Kramnik keeps playing like this I may have to take back all that stuff I said about him...|
|May-11-09|| ||DCP23: <DCP23: <Tomorrow Anand and Kramnik will give an outdoor simul on 86 boards in Baku National Park.>, says Azerisport.>|
The simul was a success. Anand and Kramnik played 10 boards each, the remaining 66 boards were distributed between the Azeri players. Karjakin and Shirov did not participate.
Some photos of the simul(from Azerisport):
|May-11-09|| ||KamikazeAttack: I just hate to see pics of Mamedyarov or whatever his name is.|
|May-11-09|| ||kamalakanta: <jhoro: <kamalakanta>, the long lecture on computers vs humans was unnecessary. all i was saying is that giving !! to 29...Rf1 was stretching it. !! should be reserved for brilliant crashing moves. my point was that even after Rf1 Kramnik was still losing and although Mamedyarov missed the best response and lost his advantage he had a draw for another dozen of moves. imo !? is more appropriate>|
You might be right. I personally was fascinated by ...Rf1, even if it was a mistake.
If I understood your first post correctly, you found the move Rh4 using your computer. This is why I wrote about computers vs. humans...
|May-11-09|| ||s4life: <eternaloptimist: Well, we can't call Kramnik - Drawnik now. He got a +5 score in this match. >|
The final result may feel like having a wet dream to some of you Kramnik lovers, but it's all just an artificial feeling.. you are all so accostumed to get dissappointed by Kramnik's results in tournaments -- a +2 is usually really great for him, that a +5 is just unbelievable. But, seriously, +5 is usually what Anand and Topalov get in their CLASSICAL tournaments, and this was just a mere rapid tourney against talented, yet young and inexperienced opposition.
Let's stop talking Drawnik when he can score like this or better at Corus.
|May-11-09|| ||Kinghunt: S4life, while I see your point, a 2968 performance is nothing to scoff at. It will be interesting to see if he can keep playing at this level.|
|May-12-09|| ||KamikazeAttack: <s4death>
Did Bonn make up for Elista??
I sure hope so but praytell.
|May-12-09|| ||Check It Out: <DCP23> Nice pics, thanks for posting. Anand looks like a tough mafia guy, Rad looks like the cool guy teenage girls would love, Mamedyarov looks like a blue collar beer drinker and Kramnik looks like a dork. lol Probably completely mismatching their actual vibe.|
|May-13-09|| ||s4life: <KamikazeAttack: <s4death>|
Did Bonn make up for Elista??
I sure hope so but praytell.>
I don't know what you are talking about, and frankly, I don't care kid.
|May-18-09|| ||I Like Fish: Now wilt spinach...
on low medium flame...
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