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|Aug-25-09|| ||zarg: <pb>
We can safely assume that FIDE would very much like to keep one single WC, after the unification match between Kramnik and Topalov.
Pissing off Carlsen too much, would be rather bad if he continue to follow the footsteps of Kasparov...
FIDE better avoid such a scenario, and knows it.
|Aug-25-09|| ||vanytchouck: The problem is that FIDE just doesn't care about upseting top players. Even if they are the best ones. Even if he's the world champion to come.|
Otherwise they wouldn't have organized the " match of the losers " (Karpov vs Timman in 1993) and the infamous k.o. world "championcheap".
Think about it :
FIDE is the organization wich is not afraid of saying "the world champion is Khalifman/Ponomariov/Kasimdhzanov".
Worse, i even think that FIDE doesn't want a charismatic world champion to emmerge. Especially a popular figure among non chess fans.
The experience with Kasparov was a painful one for this mafia. It doesn't want anymore a world champion able to hold a legitimate world championship only thanks to his name.
Anand is not and will never be a wide popular figure and most of all, he's not keen on going in politic battles.
Neither is Topalov (especially with his bad reputation from 2005) who is very close to the FIDE.
And as Topalov has still a shot for the world title (things can be worsened if he would defeat Anand), any change can still occur as long as FIDE's favorite is not wronged.
Carlsen ? Who cares ???
|Aug-25-09|| ||percyblakeney: <if he play as in Zurich he can even rich 2800>|
After going through the Zürich games I'm not totally convinced that is enough to reach 2800, but he will definitely take one of the rating spots in the Candidates and that is good enough.
|Aug-25-09|| ||Billy Vaughan: This tournament only featured players at the beginning of the alphabet.|
|Aug-26-09|| ||percyblakeney: Chessbase covering all bases with regards to the rules of the cycle :-)|
<The two top winners of the Grand Prix qualify to the Candidates Stage of the World Championship cycle 2009-2011>
<The winner of the Grand Prix series at the end of 2009 will play the winner of the World Cup held in 2009 in an eight game match to become the challenger to the World Champion in a match to be held in the third quarter of 2010>
|Aug-26-09|| ||returnoftheking: <Otherwise they wouldn't have organized the " match of the losers >|
This happened after Kasparov and Short decided to have their match away from Fide, so it's not the best argument for your (just) case I'm afraid.
|Aug-26-09|| ||Bothkill: Regarding World Cup 2009:
I've seen that although Kramnik is qualified for World Cup 2009 he will not play (because this event is not listed on his website).
He also said in his interview that rating is the only criteria for him to qualify for Candidates Match.
Any idea why Kramnik is not playing in World Cup 2009?
|Aug-26-09|| ||vanytchouck: < returnoftheking: <Otherwise they wouldn't have organized the " match of the losers >
This happened after Kasparov and Short decided to have their match away from Fide, so it's not the best argument for your (just) case I'm afraid.>|
If i'm not mistaken, Kasparov and Short have taken this decision after a politic battle (on the organization of the match between them)?
No matter what the events were, instead of doing everything to keep Kasparov and Short under their juridiction, they prefered to organize the match of the losers.
This shows how little, FIDE cares about legitimacy (and are not afraid of ridiculousness).
|Aug-26-09|| ||returnoftheking: Fide sure has a history of disregarding player interest but the exit of Short-Kasparov gave them no other option really.|
|Aug-27-09|| ||arnaud1959: If someone wants to justify his wrong decision he just needs to put himself deliberately into a situation where he has no option. That's what Fide did with great succes.|
|Aug-27-09|| ||kingsindian2006: anyone know why carlsen withdrew from grand prix? and is he out of the running for 3 to 4 years?|
|Aug-27-09|| ||Troller: <kingsindian2006: anyone know why carlsen withdrew from grand prix? and is he out of the running for 3 to 4 years?> |
He withdrew because the qualification process was changed while in the middle of it. But since there will be rating qualifiers for the upcoming Candidates event, Carlsen is expected to participate. So he is still in the running in the current cycle.
For more info, just read above posts.
|Aug-27-09|| ||vanytchouck: <arnaud1959: If someone wants to justify his wrong decision he just needs to put himself deliberately into a situation where he has no option. That's what Fide did with great succes.>|
|Aug-27-09|| ||Hesam7: <<returnoftheking>: Fide sure has a history of disregarding player interest but the exit of Short-Kasparov gave them no other option really.|
<arnaud1959>: If someone wants to justify his wrong decision he just needs to put himself deliberately into a situation where he has no option. That's what Fide did with great succes.>
Kasparov himself said breaking off from FIDE was a mistake.
|Aug-27-09|| ||eternaloptimist: This was an excellent performance by Chucky. He didn't lose a single game against a field this strong.|
|Aug-28-09|| ||arnaud1959: <Hesam7:Kasparov himself said breaking off from FIDE was a mistake.> I totally agree with you and with him. But he didn't change his mind about Fide. He just admitted that he had chosen the wrong way to fight it.|
|Aug-28-09|| ||Chessdreamer: The game Cheparinov-Karjakin is currently missing from the database.|
[Event "FIDE Grand Prix"]
[Site "Jermuk (Armenia)"]
[White "Cheparinov, Ivan"]
[Black "Karjakin, Sergey"]
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Ba6 5.b3 Bb4+ 6.Bd2 Be7 7.Bg2 c6 8.Bc3 d5 9.Ne5 Nfd7 10.Nxd7 Nxd7 11.Nd2 O-O 12.O-O Rc8 13.e4 c5 14.exd5 exd5 15.dxc5 dxc4 16.cxb6 Nxb6 17.Re1 cxb3 18.Qxb3 Re8 19.Rad1 Bf8 20.Nf1 Qc7 21.Rxe8 Rxe8 22.Ne3 Bb7 23.Bxb7 Qxb7 24.Qb5 Rc8 25.Bd4 Rd8 26.Bxb6 Rxd1+ 27.Nxd1 axb6 28.Nb2 Qe4 29.Na4 Qe1+ 30.Kg2 Qe4+ 31.Kg1 Qe1+ 32.Kg2 Qe4+ 33.Kg1 1/2-1/2
|Sep-01-09|| ||percyblakeney: Azmai says that it is unclear where the last Grand Prix event will be played. Grozny has been mentioned by Kirsan but apparently half the field has said that they won't play there. Azmai also claims that the chances are very high that the Candidates will be played in Azerbaijan:|
|Sep-01-09|| ||szachista: Grozny? That's ridiculous. Maybe Baghdad or Kabul?
Kramnik is not playing in World Cup 2009 because he (as a loser of world championship match) wants to have the same rights as Kamsky has (loser of challenger match). American doesn't have to qualify to Candidates so Vladimir will not play in Khanty Mansijsk. But to be honest he has a great chance to qualify by rating or organizer's nominee.
|Sep-01-09|| ||Bothkill: <szachista>
For the two qualifying rating positions there will be a great fight between Carlsen, Kramink, Leko, Ivanchuk and Gelfand (Radjabov will probably take the second place in Grand Prix).
|Sep-01-09|| ||cannibal: <Bothkill: For the two qualifying rating positions there will be a great fight between Carlsen, Kramink, Leko, Ivanchuk and Gelfand>|
Rumor has it that they will use the average rating of 07/2008 and 01/2009 for the rating spots, so Ivanchuk has once again managed to kick himself out.
(Btw, has FIDE actually officially announced by now which lists they are gonna use? Cause with regard to fair qualification system this is just a joke.)
|Sep-01-09|| ||rogge: <Rumor has it that they will use the average rating of 07/2008 and 01/2009 for the rating spots>|
I believe it's official by now (07/2009 + 01/2010). Kramnik and Carlsen should be pretty safe, I think.
|Sep-01-09|| ||zarg: <Kramnik and Carlsen should be pretty safe, I think.>|
No bugs in Nanking, Moscow, and London? :)
|Sep-01-09|| ||rogge: I don't like bugs :)|
|Sep-01-09|| ||szachista: Carlsen is in the best situation, he should be safe with his 2772 on 07/2009 list. Even if he lose some elo points his average result will be good.|
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