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|Aug-31-09|| ||DCP23: From the off. site:
<score after Round 10
Rising stars 22.5
Experience individual score
Van Wely 4.5
Rising Stars individual score
Hou Yifan 3.5
|Aug-31-09|| ||siamesedream: Oldies but goldies.
|Aug-31-09|| ||jon01: GM Nielsen collected the most points in NH Chess Tournament. His rating should be very close to 2700 too.|
|Aug-31-09|| ||Thuellin: If Nakamura can get back up to the top 15 soon, there's a good chance he'll be invited to Amber anyways, just based off of his rating and reputation for being a strong rapid player. On the other hand, this was likely the only chance for Smeets to get invited to Amber this year. He'll probably be the lowest-rated player there, but hopefully he'll do well anyways.|
|Aug-31-09|| ||JuliusCaesar: I hope Naka recovers quickly from this setback; it must have been a horrible experience all round. I, for one, would rather have seen him play at Amber than Smeets.|
|Aug-31-09|| ||WinKing: Nakamura had been playing so well up until this event. He had chances in his last game against Svidler till Naka played 24.Re1?. The game went quickly downhill after that. He must have missed the consequences of Svidler's 24...Ng4!. 24.Rd1 would have let black keep a small advantage but not give him the game. Both players had slips during the game giving the other chances.|
[White - Nakamura Hikaru]
[Black - Svidler Peter]
[Round - 10
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.f3 Nc6 4.d5 Ne5 5.e4 d6 6.Ne2 Bg7 7.Nec3 O-O 8.Be2 e6 9.f4 Ned7 10.O-O?! -0.52
<[10.dxe6 fxe6 11.O-O b6 12.Be3 Bb7+0.07]>
10...exd5 11.cxd5 Re8 12.Bf3 Nc5 13.Re1 h5 14.h3 b5?! +0.00
<[14...c6 15.dxc6 Qb6 16.Kh1 -0.41]>
15.e5 dxe5 16.fxe5 Nfd7 17.e6 Ne5 18.Nxb5 Ncd3?! +0.41
<[18...Nxf3+ 19.Qxf3 -0.26]>
19.exf7+ Kxf7 20.Rf1 Kg8 21.Be4?! +0.00
<[21.d6 Nxf3+ 22.Qxf3 +0.64]>
21...Nxc1 22.Qxc1?! -0.41
<[22.d6 c6 +0.00]>
22...c6 23.N5c3 Ba6 24.Re1? -2.38
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<[24.Rd1 Rc8 25.dxc6 Nd3 26.Bxd3 Bxd3 27.Kh1 Rxc6 28.Na3 -0.29]>
24...Ng4! 25.Qd2 Qb6+ 26.Kh1 Nf2+ 27.Kh2 Nxe4 28.Nxe4 Rxe4 29.Rxe4 Qxb2 30.d6 Rd8 31.d7 Be5+ 32.g3 Rxd7 0-1
Naka resigns as he is about to be a piece down.
[-5.90] d=18 33.Qxb2 Bxb2 - Analysis by Rybka 3
|Aug-31-09|| ||returnoftheking: like jon said, Nielsen may become a 2700 player soon !|
|Aug-31-09|| ||Knight13: Sorry. I don't care if Naka's sick, especially when someone just pointed out that he actually played better chess when he was sick than when he wasn't. He didn't have to come either. Nobody forced him to. Why should he get a medal for screwing himself over like that and lose a bunch of games which I don't even think is because of his sickness. I took the SAT with 39 degrees celsius fever and still scored in the top 4% tile. Did I get any medals or compliments of bravery? No. I got scolded for attempting to postpone the test date to next month. Ahhh....|
I like to burn his wings because everybody thinks he's some kind of god when he hasn't even proven himself to be one. Not in the mood to jump on the bandwagon here. He's not a top level chess player until he proves it by RESULTS.
So until then I'm gonna maintain my belief that he's overrated. However if he really is as good as people say he is then I will most definitely praise him among others such as Ivanchuk, Leko, Kramnik, etc. who've actually won elite tournaments, kept a high rating consistently, and survived (again consistently) competing against world's top 10 ranked players for YEARS.
|Aug-31-09|| ||lorker: <knight13> Excellent post. I fully agree with everything you said here. Nakamura seems highly overrated and the fact that he so often loses horribly to low rated players (as he did so much in this tournament ) is just proof of this. He did not seem anything like a 2700 player in this tournament, and this is not the first time this has happened to him. In all honesty it seems to me like his only successful tournament was the Donostia one earlier this year. Apart from that I cannot think of any results from Nakamura which would him stand out as a true super-GM. I never understood why he always got so much praise despite never performing at a top level (even his fans say he is far below his potential). Also when are people going to stop with this sick excuse. OK fine he was sick. So what. I've noticed whenever someone has a bad tournament, they were sick. Just stop looking for excuses already.|
|Aug-31-09|| ||TheAlchemist: Larsen once quipped he's never defeated a healthy opponent.|
|Aug-31-09|| ||timhortons: naka is good in playing low rated players, making blunders in an opening and surviving it, sometimes lossing sometimes winning.he not only showed it at icc but as well in many over the board game like in japan.|
i believe he could still pull surprises and could catch the attention of the organizers.maybe lossing some tourney big time and winning some big time. as of now the naka boat is floating well with handfull of fans..so far in naka winning and lossing were the same people who kibitz in a positive way for him. i still believe nak can do better than this! yes! that the spirit!
until his next tourney.au revoir:)
<ill observe the tourneo international de montreal and hope anton kovalyov could make it, though i feel his chance is low against the like of naiditsch and bacrot, but who knows?, i always like this boy, i hope he could catch up with wesley so and fabiano caruana>
|Aug-31-09|| ||lorker: <timhortons><naka is good in playing low rated players> yeah somehow we didn't really see that here. his sloppy play was being punished by 2500 players like Ljubojevic.
<i still believe nak can do better than this!> well he couldn't really do much worse could he?|
|Aug-31-09|| ||frogbert: nielsen at 2697,2 after this event, btw.|
|Aug-31-09|| ||returnoftheking: <alchemist> wasn't it Tartakower who said it first ?|
|Aug-31-09|| ||laskereshevsky: <Larsen once quipped he's never defeated a healthy opponent....> I think the first who said it was Amos Burn|
|Aug-31-09|| ||zarg: <well he couldn't really do much worse could he?>|
when an aggressive player do badly, he often do very badly. Playing sharp and not being able to calculate, is a bad combo.
They can't easily change style of play.
|Aug-31-09|| ||Knight13: <They can't easily change style of play.> I'm only an amateur, but I've changed <from super-aggressive and attacking style> to <purely positional> to <sharp tactical and positional play> in less than 3 years.|
|Aug-31-09|| ||Fish55: Actually, Nakamura has had quite a good year until this tournament. His unofficial FIDE rating had reached 2735, putting him in the World top 20. That doesn't happen by accident.|
|Aug-31-09|| ||kulangot: I'm sure if Naka did well here,nobody will say that he's an overrated player.Some people tend to focus on player's bad tournament.|
Oh my gulay!It's only one disastrous tournament against four excellent tournament for Naka this year.
|Sep-01-09|| ||shintaro go: A solid outing for Fabiano although I was expecting a couple more wins. But his victory over Peter Svidler is yet another great achievement in his young career.|
|Sep-01-09|| ||shintaro go: Hou Yifan = -3|
|Sep-01-09|| ||firebyrd: <others such as Ivanchuk, Leko, Kramnik, who've ... kept a high rating consistently> |
Not sure all of your examples there are suited to illustrate your point ...
|Sep-01-09|| ||percyblakeney: Not much rest for Hou Yifan:
|Sep-01-09|| ||kurtrichards: Well, aometimes you win...sometimes you lose.|
|Sep-01-09|| ||dehanne: Why isn't Kasparov playing here instead of Svidler? Afraid to lose against the kiddies?|
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