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|Nov-07-09|| ||yalie: <kamalakanta: <moronovich:> <bgkuzzy> <Topa wasn´t invited I think.>
I seem to remember that Topalov decided not to play in this tournament, if my memory serves me right.
Susan Polgar (who is very chummy with Topailov) has implied he was not invited.
|Nov-07-09|| ||LaFreak III: Gashimov and Elijanov are in the top 10. I wonder why they don't have given some opportunity to play in the field where there are Aronian, Topalov, Carlsen, Kramnik, Moro, Leko, Svidler, Kramnik, Vishy and many more..
Maybe a tournament of TOP20 in the 100 FIDE LIST.
Any billionaire chess enthusiast out there?
|Nov-07-09|| ||LaFreak III: Rank Name Title Country Rating Games B-Year
1 Topalov, Veselin g BUL 2810 10 1975
2 Carlsen, Magnus g NOR 2801 10 1990
3 Anand, Viswanathan g IND 2788 0 1969
4 Aronian, Levon g ARM 2786 13 1982
5 Kramnik, Vladimir g RUS 2772 0 1975
6 Gashimov, Vugar g AZE 2758 11 1986
7 Gelfand, Boris g ISR 2758 11 1968
8 Svidler, Peter g RUS 2754 17 1976
9 Leko, Peter g HUN 2752 10 1979
10 Morozevich, Alexander g RUS 2750 0 1977
11 Radjabov, Teimour g AZE 2748 10 1987
12 Ivanchuk, Vassily g UKR 2739 13 1969
13 Ponomariov, Ruslan g UKR 2739 5 1983
14 Grischuk, Alexander g RUS 2736 13 1983
15 Jakovenko, Dmitry g RUS 2736 10 1983
16 Wang, Yue g CHN 2734 27 1987
17 Eljanov, Pavel g UKR 2729 15 1983
18 Karjakin, Sergey g UKR 2723 12 1990
19 Mamedyarov, Shakhriyar g AZE 2719 25 1985
20 Shirov, Alexei g ESP 2719 18 1972
|Nov-07-09|| ||waustad: <drunken>In the US, class A has a specific meaning that indicates a player who is a little better than I was 20 years ago. I am sure that is not what you meant. Yet another of the many times that little confusions can occur when dealing with people from all over the world. ;-)|
|Nov-07-09|| ||Hovik2009: Live-Ratings by Hans Arill Runde:
Rank, Name, Track, Rating, Change, # games, # events, Born, @ FIDE
01 Topalov off 2805,1 -4,9 4 1 1975 id-card
02 Carlsen off 2800,6 -0,4 1 1 1990 id-card
03 Anand off 2787,3 -0,7 1 1 1969 id-card
04 Aronian off 2779,1 -6,9 9 2 1982 id-card
05 Kramnik off 2772,4 +0,4 1 1 1975 id-card
06 Gashimov off 2766,6 +8,6 9 1 1986 id-card
07 Gelfand off 2757,7 -0,3 1 1 1968 id-card
08 Morozevich off 2755,3 +5,3 7 2 1977 id-card
09 Svidler off 2754,1 +0,1 11 3 1976 id-card
10 Leko off 2752,0 0 1 1 1979 id-card
So according to this list only Topalov and Hashimov are absent in Moscow.
|Nov-08-09|| ||slomarko: <For better or worse, being part of USSR made it possible for Baltic republics to produce some great players including Tal and Keres. They were great talents but the soviet chess system greatly helped to bring their talents out. It's possible that if Stalin didn't occupy Baltic states the world wouldn't have Tal, Keres, etc.> I don't know about Tal but Keres "existed" already before that.|
|Nov-08-09|| ||HeMateMe: <shach matov:> Well, Shirov grew up in Riga, I think. He seemed to do just fine without the benefit of the big red machine. Just bursting with tactical ability, he probably could have grown up on Pago Pago and done just fine.|
Ironically, he had to leave the workers paradise to continue his chess career, playing in team leagues in Spain and Germany.
|Nov-08-09|| ||Hovik2009: <Now obviously communism is a big disaster, but it did have some positive side effects like the great soviet chess school.>|
the idea of communism and socialism was never meant to be a disaster to human community and actually it was a gift from God to fight against injustice and discrimination in this materialistic world, only psychoneurotic and sickly ambitious people like Stalin and Trotsky derailed it from its natural path and gave it a bad name!
|Nov-08-09|| ||WannaBe: Err... If I remember correctly, under communism, religion, or god was not allowed...|
|Nov-08-09|| ||virginmind: <Hovik2000> there is almost nothing natural about communism.
<WannaBe> that depended from country to country, some were more tolerant in this respect.|
|Nov-08-09|| ||shach matov: <HeMateMe><Well, Shirov grew up in Riga, I think. He seemed to do just fine without the benefit of the big red machine.> It's interesting to note that seven out of 10 participants in this tourney (and also Shirov since he was grow up during USSR) have benefited from the soviet chess machine even if they were born after perestroika. The influence of the system will last for a long time to come. One could even say that Carlsen is indirectly benefiting from it since he is being coAched by Kasparov now:)|
|Nov-08-09|| ||SetNoEscapeOn: Didn't Shirov study under Tal? I know Shabalov did.|
|Nov-08-09|| ||Gotank: I was under the impression that communism, in its core, had nothing to do with religion at all?|
Anyways, I wouldn't suggest paying too much attention to comments by <walker> or <kramputz>, the latter of whom was trying to convince others, in another thread, that people in China still lived in shacks and straw huts.
|Nov-08-09|| ||walker: < It's possible that if Stalin didn't occupy Baltic states the world wouldn't have Tal, Keres, etc.>
Oh...noooo...Keres??? I give up. This site is becoming a place for neo-communist propaganda.
Boy, Keres was 6 years older than Magnus is now when the Soviet Union occupied his country. He was already in negotiations to meet Alekhin for the crown after he won AVRO in 1938. What are you talking about!!!!|
|Nov-08-09|| ||walker: "At Amsterdam in 1954 he(Keres) scored 96.4% on fourth board and won another game so brilliant against Šajtar of Czechoslovakia that the Soviet non-playing captain, Kotov, told to me that it was 'a true Soviet game.' I told this to Keres who, with the nearest approach to acerbity I ever saw him show, said: <'No, it was a true Estonian game.'>" – Grandmaster Harry Golombek|
|Nov-08-09|| ||Bradah: <shach matov: <HeMateMe><Well, Shirov grew up in Riga, I think. He seemed to do just fine without the benefit of the big red machine.> It's interesting to note that seven out of 10 participants in this tourney (and also Shirov since he was grow up during USSR) have benefited from the soviet chess machine even if they were born after perestroika. The influence of the system will last for a long time to come. One could even say that Carlsen is indirectly benefiting from it since he is being coAched by Kasparov now:)>|
Good thing, you didn't post this on the Carlsen page, else, someone will killfile it.;)
|Nov-08-09|| ||The Rocket: "Didn't Shirov study under Tal? I know Shabalov did."|
well Shirov trained with Tal, But I dont know if you can call it studying or not..
dont know to which extent they played if it was just casual blixt games or more than that.
|Nov-08-09|| ||anandrulez: When do the games start ? Any news of Magnus/Kramnik flu ?|
|Nov-08-09|| ||supy: Carlsen is given antibiotics, he is very sick it seems but he will play confirms this in the commentary http://games.chessdom.com/carlsen-a...|
|Nov-08-09|| ||anandrulez: Its a bit tough task to play when u get flu . Hope it doesnt affect his play in the toruney much ...|
|Nov-08-09|| ||The Rocket: so both carlsen and kramnik has the flu?|
|Nov-08-09|| ||nuwanda: |
Moro plays a Scheveninger against Gelfand, not to ambituos as white, but interesting as Gelfand is not known as an e4-player
|Nov-08-09|| ||KamikazeAttack: Kramnik is going wild again but Svidler should hold this if he doesn't panic.|
|Nov-08-09|| ||shintaro go: Interesting to see that Kramnik and Anand still belong to the very top of the chess hierarchy.|
|Nov-08-09|| ||kurtrichards: Leko is eyeing Ivanchuk's kingside now. Perhaps measuring if he can launch an attack there.|
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