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TOURNAMENT STANDINGS
(SPECIAL SCORING IN EFFECT: 3 POINTS PER WIN; 1 POINT PER DRAW)
London Chess Classic Tournament

Magnus Carlsen13(+3 -0 =4)[games]
Vladimir Kramnik12(+3 -1 =3)[games]
David Howell9(+1 -0 =6)[games]
Michael Adams9(+1 -0 =6)[games]
Luke McShane7(+2 -4 =1)[games]
Ni Hua6(+1 -3 =3)[games]
Hikaru Nakamura6(+0 -1 =6)[games]
Nigel Short5(+0 -2 =5)[games]

 page 1 of 2; games 1-25 of 28  PGN Download
Game  ResultMoves YearEvent/LocaleOpening
1. Carlsen vs Kramnik 1-0432009London Chess ClassicA29 English, Four Knights, Kingside Fianchetto
2. McShane vs Short 1-01632009London Chess ClassicC45 Scotch Game
3. Nakamura vs Ni Hua ½-½462009London Chess ClassicD11 Queen's Gambit Declined Slav
4. D Howell vs Adams ½-½452009London Chess ClassicC45 Scotch Game
5. Adams vs Nakamura ½-½602009London Chess ClassicC03 French, Tarrasch
6. Short vs D Howell ½-½442009London Chess ClassicC42 Petrov Defense
7. Kramnik vs Ni Hua 1-0482009London Chess ClassicD10 Queen's Gambit Declined Slav
8. Carlsen vs McShane 1-0612009London Chess ClassicE94 King's Indian, Orthodox
9. D Howell vs Carlsen ½-½792009London Chess ClassicB22 Sicilian, Alapin
10. McShane vs Kramnik 0-1362009London Chess ClassicC24 Bishop's Opening
11. Nakamura vs Short ½-½432009London Chess ClassicE44 Nimzo-Indian, Fischer Variation, 5.Ne2
12. Ni Hua vs Adams ½-½362009London Chess ClassicC89 Ruy Lopez, Marshall
13. Short vs Ni Hua ½-½642009London Chess ClassicC11 French
14. Kramnik vs Adams ½-½462009London Chess ClassicD37 Queen's Gambit Declined
15. McShane vs D Howell ½-½402009London Chess ClassicA15 English
16. Carlsen vs Nakamura ½-½452009London Chess ClassicD17 Queen's Gambit Declined Slav
17. D Howell vs Kramnik ½-½532009London Chess ClassicC42 Petrov Defense
18. Ni Hua vs Carlsen 0-1422009London Chess ClassicB51 Sicilian, Canal-Sokolsky (Rossolimo) Attack
19. Nakamura vs McShane 0-1552009London Chess ClassicE94 King's Indian, Orthodox
20. Adams vs Short ½-½432009London Chess ClassicC80 Ruy Lopez, Open
21. McShane vs Ni Hua 0-1802009London Chess ClassicC07 French, Tarrasch
22. D Howell vs Nakamura ½-½412009London Chess ClassicC03 French, Tarrasch
23. Kramnik vs Short 1-0402009London Chess ClassicD38 Queen's Gambit Declined, Ragozin Variation
24. Carlsen vs Adams ½-½612009London Chess ClassicE46 Nimzo-Indian
25. Short vs Carlsen ½-½712009London Chess ClassicB76 Sicilian, Dragon, Yugoslav Attack
 page 1 of 2; games 1-25 of 28  PGN Download
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Dec-14-09  anandrulez: Doesnt Carlsen usually go into opponents Prep lines ? He played sicilian vs Vishy mostly in blitz games but still he did it ! Even won a game in Amber as blind .
Dec-14-09  Ezzy: <anandrulez: Its 1000 Euros . 10 grands is too much for a brilliant chess game !> It's 1000 Euro's for the daily best game, but I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that there is a 10.000 Euro brilliancy prize on offer after the tournament finishes.

It is a massive amount of money for a brilliancy ptize, but that's what they've decided to do.

Even 1000 Euro's for a daily best game prize is a lot, but we have seen fighting chess in every game, and the tournament seems to be massive success.

Perhaps big money prizes for the best games is the way to go.

Dec-14-09  Z.Ramsay: lol Carlsen playing Nigel Short under Kasparovs prep...DEADLY!!!!!!
Dec-14-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  Marmot PFL: I am think mcshane should lose, so it is probably a draw.
Dec-14-09  ILikeFruits: is it true...
dat d4 is...
and was...
and always will...
be superior...
to e4...
Dec-14-09  Magnusch: I wonder if we <ever> will see Rybka (or another super program) in a super tournament? I guess the answer is 'no' and the reason has something with money to do. Oh what I hate this material world!

Am I the only one who wants to have a computer program among the humans?

Dec-14-09  theagenbiteofinwit: <Am I the only one who wants to have a computer program among the humans?>

You must hate surprise and having to actually watch the game take place before you know the results.

Dec-14-09  Doktorn: <Am I the only one who wants to have a computer program among the humans?>

Computers are getting so strong these days, at least with an opening book and endgame tablebases, that humans only have a chance to draw. So the most likely think that would happen is people playing into very drawish lines to try to obtain the draw as quick as possible, which IMHO wouldn't be very fun. An occasional match between a computer and one or several GMs I would be interested in, since it would then be more of an exhibition and the human player(s) wouldn't worry so much about points and getting the draw.

With that said, I don't think you are the only one in the world who would like to see computers "compete" in human tournaments. But I don't think you are that many in the chess community.

Dec-14-09  MaxxLange: looks like Ni Hua is going to win
Dec-14-09  edbermac: mcshane just lost
Dec-14-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  Marmot PFL: <Computers are getting so strong these days, at least with an opening book and endgame tablebases, that humans only have a chance to draw.> Botvinnik and Fischer both predicted that back when computers were about 1100 level.
Dec-14-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  eternaloptimist: Well, GM Christiansen's prediction that Ni Hua would grind down McShane & win ended up being accurate. FINALLY Ni gets a win. Although, only 1/2 of the players in the trnt. have won at least 1 game.
Dec-14-09  Magnusch: <theagenbiteofinwit> But even if the humans probably were toasted (and a few draws) I think it still would be interesting to see <how> the game would proceed/develop.

Seems like you are saying that you are only interested in the result of the game - if you already know it then the game couldn't be interesting in itself?

Dec-14-09  waustad: I'd stopped watching ages ago. It looked like they were going to just repeat on the Q-side, but Ni Hua kept on and brought the win home. Now he's out of the cellar.
Dec-14-09  jussu: <to have a computer program among the humans>

It would be even more exciting to see a dragster competing in 100m in Olympic Games.

Dec-14-09  MaxxLange: it actually turned into an interesting knight vs bishop situation
Dec-14-09  DCP23: <jussu: <to have a computer program among the humans> It would be even more exciting to see a dragster competing in 100m in Olympic Games.>

Never mind the dragster, a torpedo chasing Phelps in the pool is the way to top TV ratings!

Dec-14-09  JaneEyre: <It would be even more exciting to see a dragster competing in 100m in Olympic Games.>

Well, we had Caster Semenya in the women's 800m.

Dec-14-09  Magnusch: <Doktorn> Yes I know they are stronger than humans today. But still, I want to see it. And <if> some of the humans manage to <win> a game (maybe the only win), don't you think <that game> should be very special and/or brilliant?

Imo the points of the computer should be ignored in the end , so there will be a human who wins anyway.

Maybe turn off the end game database for the computer too?

Come on people - support me! Open your minds! Remember Neo in the Matrix? You have to believe in mankind! Don't give up!!

Dec-14-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  Marmot PFL: Tomorrow will be a critical day, with the 2 leaders playing black against the 2 at the bottom, who will be desperate to win a game.
Dec-14-09  Magnusch: I see.. you are all pessimists.. You have given up.. That is sad! Well, there is nothing I can say then..

Time to go to bed (I hope I will dream about a computer which will eat up every human who is afraid of it! Every human who tries to run or resign immedately in front of it will be eaten!) Good Luck Everyone!

Dec-14-09  jussu: <a computer which will eat up every human who is afraid of it!>

That would also solve the problems with pension systems in Western countries, I suppose...

Dec-14-09  MaxxLange: Yeah, they did that (having computers play in human tournaments) in the '80s, and everyone hated it.
Dec-14-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  parmetd: too bad Adams gave Carlsen sympathy or we'd have quite a showdown tomorrow with coleaders in the last round.
Dec-14-09  chessmoron: Adams-Off with his head!!
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