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|Feb-18-10|| ||SugarDom: Statistics in general does not predict outcomes very accurately, doesn't it frogbert?...|
No need to downplay Nakamura's blitz rating...
Yes, i know what your up to...
|Feb-18-10|| ||frogbert: <Yes, i know what your up to... >|
obviously you aren't.
i'm making the same claim i've made dozens of times already, over several years. i've seen little or nothing to make me change my mind, and hence my view remains the same.
however, i see what <you> are up to: making <yet another post> where you aren't able to stick to the topic or avoid personal attacks.
i you would've stayed away from making another personal attack, i could've explained <why> i have the opinion i have and <what> i think the differences are between internet blitz and participation in say aeroflot blitz or the tal memorial qualifier and final. it's got little to do with predictional strength of ratings of any kind, btw.
but if you go on with personal attacks like here, i'll just put you on ignore instead, sugardom. i'm getting pretty tired of people who can't debate an issue without becoming personal. you in particular have received as many chances i'm prepared to give you. do what you want with your last.
|Feb-18-10|| ||Eyal: <Poor Le> Well, I'm sure he's still much more happy than sad, for the ticket to Dortmund as well as all the rating points that he gained in The Moscow Open + Aeroflot, which should bring him quite close to 2700.|
Speaking of Dortmund, apparently the list of participants is now complete (http://schach.twoday.net/) - besides Le, it includes Kramnik (of course), Aronian, Vachier-Lagrave, Meier, and Gustafsson. So the people who always like to complain about those who aren't playing (Where's Carlsen? Where's Ivanchuk?!), as well as to berate the organizers for inviting too many locals, can start right now - though I suppose that at least for some the non-participation of Leko would be a consolation...
|Feb-18-10|| ||frogbert: <So the people who always like to complain about those who aren't playing>|
actually, there's a competing group of people who like to complain that the same guys are <always> invited. :o)
for instance i expect the nakamura fans to be entirely positive to giving the improving georg meier a chance on home turf - of course, he's "only" in the 2650-area and german - but i've also read numerous times that the 2650-2700 players should get more chances in top tournaments at the cost of the top 15 players - i.e. instead of the most stable and established elite players (that have "invested" the most in their professional chess career).
on the other hand, can dortmund 2010 even be considered a "super-event" with only two seasoned elite players (kramnik, aronian), a relative 2700-newcomer (vachier-lagrave), a going-nowhere 2700-ish at best (naiditsch), plus two players with no experience at "this" level?
le might very well turn out a top elite player - finishing at the top of both moscow open and aeroflot open is indeed hard to do; i completely understand that nakamura chose not to risk an "average" result there after the success in corus a - it could've sent the wrong kind of signal. (in addition he was tired from playing 3 events in 1,5 months.)
i've been watching meier's steady rating-rise, so it's not surprising that he gets a chance. how big his potential is, however, isn't anything i know too much about. maybe some german kibiters have more info...
|Feb-18-10|| ||omaha39: Dortmund is so boring|
|Feb-19-10|| ||whiteshark: ... and why did they always invite Drawnik?|
|Feb-19-10|| ||Valmy: <and why did they always invite Drawnik?>
Because they need a winner;-)|
|Feb-19-10|| ||whiteshark: <Valmy> LOL I'm rooting for MVL. Meier-Vachier-Lagrave that is. :D|
|Feb-19-10|| ||percyblakeney: <So the people who always like to complain about those who aren't playing (Where's Carlsen? Where's Ivanchuk?!), as well as to berate the organizers for inviting too many locals, can start right now>|
I'd give them a plus point for inviting Vachier-Lagrave, and another one for avoiding Naiditsch and Leko since they always get a spot each and it's fun with at least some variation. It's basically a two player competition for first though, and if Dortmund once could be seen as a tournament of almost the same level as Linares or Corus those days are definitely gone.
|Feb-19-10|| ||frogbert: <one for avoiding Naiditsch>|
ah, they did?
i'm blind - i was so sure that naiditsch was in that i read "naiditsch" instead of gustafsson.
< if Dortmund once could be seen as a tournament of almost the same level as Linares or Corus those days are definitely gone.>
well, having both gustafsson and meier certainly takes care of that. :o)
|Feb-19-10|| ||percyblakeney: <i was so sure that naiditsch was in that i read "naiditsch" instead of gustafsson>|
It's the first Dortmund since 2002 without Naiditsch, and the first without Leko since 1997.
|Feb-19-10|| ||Eyal: <the first without Leko since 1997>|
A truly historical event, then...
|Feb-19-10|| ||whiteshark: Better late than never!|
|Feb-19-10|| ||kurtrichards: <<Valmy>LOL I'm rooting for MVL. Meier-Vachier-Lagrave that is. :D> :D|
|Feb-19-10|| ||Eyal: <almost the same level as Linares or Corus>|
Starting from next year, it might become Linares or Tata (http://reports.chessdom.com/news-20...). According to the same item, the Tal Memorial might finally enter the Grand Slam cycle (it has become such a strong and important tournament lately that the GS is really starting to look ridiculous without it).
About the participants of this year's edition - <It is expected the competition to have 8 participants, from which the only sure is Magnus Carlsen, who won Nanjing and Corus. As he has won the two events, it has been decided that there is a free spot that will be filled with the second placed player that has the best performance in any of the Grand Slam events. The next participant will be known at the end of Linares 2010, and the winner of Mtel Masters 2010 will be invited as well. Who will take the last 4 participants spots and how (invitational basis or position in Grand Slam events) is yet to be decided.>
Since Kramnik was second in Corus (ahead of Shirov by tiebreak - at least the one used in Corus), I suppose Danailov would find some way of calculating "best performance of the second placed player" that would leave him out...
|Feb-19-10|| ||Bobby Fiske: <Eyal. Since Kramnik was second in Corus (ahead of Shirov by tiebreak - at least the one used in Corus), I suppose Danailov would find some way of calculating "best performance of the second placed player" that would leave him out...>|
Since some of the tournaments have diferent number of rounds, I think the most fair way to decide it, is by comparing point score in percent.
In case of "tiebreaks", they can compare TRP, since some tournaments have weaker fields than others.
|Feb-19-10|| ||frogbert: can or can't, bobby fiske. "can" is correct, but it seems you were arguing that point.|
in english, the common abbreviation is tpr, for "tournament performance rating" btw.
|Feb-19-10|| ||Bobby Fiske: Yes, first they compare point score in percentage. If equal %, then they can compare TPR.|
Seems fair to me.
|Feb-19-10|| ||Chessforeva: 3D games:http://chessforeva.appspot.com/C0_p...|
|Feb-20-10|| ||Tabanus: Aeroflot Open 2010 final standings:
|Feb-21-10|| ||Bdellovibrio: <Eyal> That article you linked even had Danailov mentioning a Grand Slam event in the USA! Do I smell a Fischer Memorial in New York? :D|
|Mar-02-10|| ||Starfire: I am constantly AMAZED how 18 yr olds can WIN a tournament with some of the worlds finest GRANDMASTERS.
I am totaly jealous that they can accomplish this feat!!|
|May-15-10|| ||percyblakeney: <It's the first Dortmund since 2002 without Naiditsch, and the first without Leko since 1997>|
The field seems to have changed quite a bit though (only Kramnik and Le are left of the six above named participants) and now both Naiditsch and Leko are in, as usual:
|May-15-10|| ||acirce: The field hasn't been changed. The former version was never the actual field to begin with. Gustafsson commented on it here: http://www.chessninja.com/dailydirt...|
|May-16-10|| ||percyblakeney: <The former version was never the actual field to begin with>|
Strange, I wonder how http://schach.twoday.net/ came up with their version...
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