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|Apr-23-10|| ||HeMateMe: There was an item on yahoo the other day that mentioned that women in the USA are now being awarded more law degrees and medical school degrees than men. I see that as good news, some substantive equality. But, I think women lack advanced degrees in areas of science, like math, physics and engineering.|
|Apr-23-10|| ||mortigi tempo: <iamsheaf> sorry I hadn't read your previous posts. :P Sorry to judge you so quickly. |
<Shah Mat> I'm not sure how far women have come in university. But as far as I know they are payed less and it takes longer for them to become full professor. Also there are hardly any female professors in science and math fields at college. I used the word institution to refer to university and ivy league. Also, that k-12 field they dominate isn't exactly a great paying job and is more a labor of love. To give an example through 2 links... from '93 http://articles.baltimoresun.com/19...
Report on associate professor path to promotion men vs women. http://www.mla.org/assocprof_survey
In the past men have dominated the higher education (higher pay) scene while women get k-12. Maybe that's changed but I doubt that much has changed in 10 years.
|Apr-23-10|| ||iamsheaf: A snap Poll question to all those who are rooting for Vishy: |
Why are you rooting for Anand ?
a). I like his universal style. He is good at both positional and tactical chess. Aronian describes him as a strategic player.
b). Because of my nationality. I am an Indian (Spanish or from Philippines, other countries related to Vishy )
c). I would pay a million chessbucks to watch Danailov humiliated and embarrassed.
d). Vishy is soft spoken and non-confrontational and chess world doesn't want any more controversies.
e). I don't know.
|Apr-23-10|| ||Shah Mat: <hehateme> i know far more women with BSc Chem. or Biology than men. In fact, the ratio of working scientists in those fields i am personally or professionally acquainted with is ~10:1. if you consider psychology a science, that ratio goes up. |
but i meet mostly field workers. research and lab environments may be different.
i have never met a female mathematician or physicis--at least not one who was candid or open about it.
|Apr-23-10|| ||Kazzak: It's the willingness to gamble, not intelligence. Lene Hau is capable of slowing light to a slither, in fact freezing it completely, and then letting it move along again. She's pretty smart. But she would be anecdotal evidence of one woman capable of playing with the best of male scientists.
And while I've had occasion to ponder her findings, I do not know enough about her relationship to risk to be able to declare whether she fits the mold or not.|
Here's the mold. It's not so much a question of your brain's processing power, as it is of your willingness to stake it all on a toss of the coin. Women are extremely unwilling to do the latter. It's as the joke has it: "Men fall in love in a flash, women take their time. Women know in a flash when it's over, men refuse to believe it can be so."
The term manager is a misnomer. Most companies don't want managers, they want gamblers who have figured out a way to game the house. Yes, women are better managers in the sense that they see the task as one of keeping things together, while securing incremental improvements in the position. Men at times don't mind going all-in, hoping for a spectacular pay-off.
Our willingness to forget failures let men get away with this, and we therefore believe they are better than women, because of the spectacular outcomes we do remember. But for every Amundsen on the South Pole the ice is littered with frozen failures, and women waited with making the attempt until there were radios. They're not dumb. Not even foolhardy. They're smarter, they intend to outlive men and probably make men unnecessary. If that's not intelligent, what is?
For your consideration, a study of gender differences in chess strategy. Quite enlightening. PDF: http://ftp.iza.org/dp4793.pdf
|Apr-23-10|| ||SatelliteDan: Woman are definitly better at? (and agreed) Men are definitly better at?(and agreed) May be a better approch to deciding on whatever these last posts may be about.|
|Apr-23-10|| ||SetNoEscapeOn: How about you guys just abort the whole silly nonsense?|
|Apr-23-10|| ||melianis: Well isn't this lovely, Chess World Championship's 1st game at 17 (Local East European time) or Finnish Championship 2nd game in Ice Hockey at 16.30 (home town team plays)? Then there's the possibility of about four hours of gardening.|
|Apr-23-10|| ||fab11mt: What is this? <The world championship silent treatment> another ploy? |
<The world of chess has been rocked by a controversial demand for the game's greatest international tournament to be played in complete silence.>
|Apr-23-10|| ||SamAtoms1980: Here's a new one: How many registered (and anonymous) kibitzers do we think are going to be online for the first move of the first game?|
I'm going to go with 650 / 1800
|Apr-23-10|| ||DrLecter: The Bulgarian prime minister looks really buff. For a moment I thought he must have been some kind of a goon in his early days.|
|Apr-23-10|| ||fab11mt: Are they really bent on getting the title by hook or by whatever means?|
|Apr-24-10|| ||HeMateMe: < iamsheaf: A snap Poll question to all those who are rooting for Vishy: >|
Responding to the choices in your poll (which i think is a good idea) I root for Anand
1. because of his long history of high level chess, from junior years, to his high profile match with Kasparov in the WTC, up to today. A fine ambassador of the game.
2. I root against Topalov, because he bears responsibility for the actions of his 'handlers' and, to a lesser degree, chess functionaries in Bulgaria. There was the business with Toiletgate in Elista. Danailov is suing FIDE because of Anands 1 day delay proposal being granted--anything that will provide a distraction, whether immoral or immature is fair game.
Also, Topalov has said some stupid things. Making a public statement that Anand made no attempt to get sponsorship in India "...or the match prize could have been double..." There is this recent business of "no talking between the players." Or the 'Sofia rules' challange. Topalov must feel inadequate, he is attempting anything to throw an affable fellow like Anand off kilter.
I'm sure others can give more examples of this. I personally wish Anand was playing Kramnik or Carlsen.
|Apr-24-10|| ||laskerian: Considering the circumstances surrounding the holding of the current world championship match (Topalov's side-entry into the match, his team's, particularly Danailov's unwarranted disrespect for Anand and his rights as world champion, their changing of the world championship match rules, etc), I am beginning to not only boost Anand to win this, but win this heavily and painfully for Topalov. So that after this match, Topalov and his team shall vanish out of humiliation (if in case they know the meaning of humiliation at all). It is very unfortunate for Topalov to have such a manager as Danailov. He is a great player, but his character is slowly getting eroded by the cantankerous presence of his manager, who understands virtually nothing about respect for the opponent and the chess world in general.
This is inexorably getting to be a proverbial fight between the forces of good and evil, and I only hope that justice will be served in the end, after Topalov and his team get a good spanking.|
|Apr-24-10|| ||laskerian: Fostering such a hostile attitude towards the opponent during a match, for the sake of drawing energy from animosity, is I think a sad impoverishment of chess. I still believe that it is possible to play a match in the highest levels while maintaining genuine respect towards the opponent.|
|Apr-24-10|| ||saad: only 11 hours and game 1 will start|
|Apr-24-10|| ||acirce: <It is very unfortunate for Topalov to have such a manager as Danailov.>|
Not the way he sees it. He wouldn't have reached the heights he has if not for Danailov, who saw his promise already 20 or so years ago and devoted himself to helping him reaching the top. And chess is what he cares about. Chess and winning in chess - by any means necessary.
|Apr-24-10|| ||Kazzak: The silent treatment is old news and was proposed by Danailov. Newspapers finding out about it now, and probably a good hook to try to stir up at least a little interest around the WCC in the general public.|
|Apr-24-10|| ||kinseadm: Did you guys see the title of Topalov's picture in the recent Telegraph article about "silent treatment"? It says "Current world champion Veselin Topalov from bulgaria"!!!!|
|Apr-24-10|| ||HeMateMe: I should amend my last comment to say that I'm glad Anand is playing Topalov--he's a worthy opponent, and plays exciting chess. |
It's just that the match being in Bulgaria puts a pallor over the whole thing. Anand's group must be feeling the old Bruce Lee motto: "EXPECT--the unexpected." This would have such a better vibe if the match were held somewhere else.
I guess Iceland is anavailable.
|Apr-24-10|| ||acirce: Retarded article.
But yes, that was the bad part about it. Of course Topalov doesn't have to offer or accept draws in non-dead-drawn positions if he doesn't want to (we'll see how that turns out in practice, though), but going through the arbiter instead of talking to Anand? Rude.
|Apr-24-10|| ||GiuocoPianoMan: I was wondering why Topalov's homeland was the site of the match- why not Iceland, or Manila, or even Hastings- for that matter why not "one night in Bangkok....?"|
|Apr-24-10|| ||LucB: Does anybody know if there's going to be live video of the opening moves, handshake, etc, or will we only witness this after the fact?|
|Apr-24-10|| ||wordfunph: <LaFreak III: What time it will start? Manila time>|
|Apr-24-10|| ||Check It Out: <Are they really bent on getting the title by hook or by whatever means?>
Not only does it say he's the current world champion, it's written by Matthew Day: me! I have a hard time believing there's a guy in Warsaw with my exact name writing on this.
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