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Cap d'Agde (2010)

Player: Nadezhda Kosintseva

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Game  ResultMoves Year Event/LocaleOpening
1. Judit Polgar vs N Kosintseva 1-038 2010 Cap d'AgdeC86 Ruy Lopez, Worrall Attack
2. S Milliet vs N Kosintseva 0-173 2010 Cap d'AgdeC44 King's Pawn Game
3. N Kosintseva vs R Edouard 1-078 2010 Cap d'AgdeC11 French
4. Bu Xiangzhi vs N Kosintseva 1-063 2010 Cap d'AgdeA29 English, Four Knights, Kingside Fianchetto
5. N Kosintseva vs Karpov 0-159 2010 Cap d'AgdeC65 Ruy Lopez, Berlin Defense
6. N Kosintseva vs Ngoc Truongson Nguyen ½-½38 2010 Cap d'AgdeC10 French
7. Nakamura vs N Kosintseva 1-044 2010 Cap d'AgdeC45 Scotch Game
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Nov-02-10  LIFE Master AJ: What was the time limit in this event???

BTW, congrats to Nak. I went over a few of his games ... he was MOST impressive!!!!!

Nov-02-10
Premium Chessgames Member
  kellmano: <LIFE Master AJ: What was the time limit in this event??? >

25/10. It was live on the net in a few places, including a vid from the official site, which is always a nice touch.

Dunno where the games are from the quarter-final onwards. Chucky won

Nov-02-10  checkmateyourmove: <shams> if he didnt care he wouldnt wine on his tweet like he's 12. why dont u read his last few tweets , before you reply with your silly answers.
Nov-03-10  anandrulez: No report on this tourney yet in Chessbase .
Nov-03-10
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  SetNoEscapeOn: <I played like an idiot and Ivanchuk won.>

He seems to say some variation of this just about every time he loses.

<Fischer was able to think 16 moves in advance. Kasparov 10 moves.>

?????

Nov-03-10
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  kellmano: <SetNoEscapeOn: <I played like an idiot and Ivanchuk won.> He seems to say some variation of this just about every time he loses.

<Fischer was able to think 16 moves in advance. Kasparov 10 moves.>

?????
>

Agree on point one. I'm a big Naka fan but I wish sometimes he'd just lose without 'playing rubbish'. Think all chess players know the feeling though - hard to credit an opponent at any level.

The line you quote about thinking ahead is odd indeed. Not even the qualifier of 'about'.

Nov-03-10  anandrulez: Well, you dont need to be an idiot to lose to Chucky and Naka knows it !
Nov-03-10  Kazzak: I'm serious, Nakamura is his own worst enemy now - he can mix it up with any of today's top players, but when he does meet them over the board, it is more often than not Nakamura who commits the game ending error in decisive games. (Against the absolute elite). And on the occasions when he does win, as against Gelfand at the WTC, it was with a speculative attack, which Gelfand could have countered; and which Aronian picked apart the next day, when Nakamura repeated it.

Nakamura needs to put in considerable effort into curbing his play fast instinct and laying more foundation. Looking forward to seeing him in action at Tal - starting tomorrow!

Nov-03-10  turbo231: <SetNoEscapeOn: <Fischer was able to think 16 moves in advance. Kasparov 10 moves.>

?????>

Are you still here? Do you want me to reveal my sources?

Nov-03-10
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  HeMateMe: I once thought 8 moves in advance, at a high school dance.
Nov-03-10  turbo231: <HeMateMe: I once thought 8 moves in advance, at a high school dance.>

Was she hot! Did your moves work?

I wonder what happened to <SetNoEscapeOn>? Fischer was interviewed on the Dick Cavett Show. Kasparov was interviewed. And I wanted to talk about Morphy also.

Nov-03-10  turbo231: Morphy proved he could see a least 11 moves in advance, it's documented! Count 'em! Paulsen vs Morphy, 1857
Nov-03-10  turbo231: From move 17 to move 28!
Nov-04-10  Simonkaser: All the games including playoffs are at http://www.capechecs.com/resultats/...
Nov-04-10  Simonkaser: btw I was at the closing ceremony and Naka didn't get booed as you say but he was waiting for a standing ovation and didn't get it that's all.
Nov-04-10  turbo231: <Simonkaser: btw I was at the closing ceremony and Naka didn't get booed as you say but he was waiting for a standing ovation and didn't get it that's all>

"I was at the closing ceremony", are you a Frenchman or a Frenchwoman? Or... seen any nude people lately there in Cap d'Agde? The world capital of nudist. I guess it's get old after awhile. I think sexy clothes are more sexy than nudity. You need to leave something to the imagination. Although I don't have anything against nudity, if they're in good shape.

Nov-04-10  Simonkaser: What ? :D
Nov-04-10
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  chessgames.com: The playoff games are online here: Cap d'Agde (Knockout) (2010)
Nov-05-10  Troller: <HeMateMe: I once thought 8 moves in advance, at a high school dance.> Hehe.

Anyway, you can't put a definite number on the moves you can think ahead. In an endgame one can sometimes think 20 moves ahead (pawn races etc), whereas in a complicated middlegame position 10-15 moves is only possible if the moves are forced. If not, then one has to rely on experience to anticipate what will probably happen - it is impossible to calculate all possibilities 15 moves ahead in a middlegame without forced moved, the number of variations is too big. A strong player will typically make the correct choices anyway, by ruling out a lot of seemingly weaker variations, but you can find plenty of examples where even top GMs miss something. Fischer missed stuff also, albeit not often; by looking at some of his losses it is clear that he did not always calculate 16 moves in advance.

Nov-05-10  turbo231: <Troller>

After Bobby won the title he was interviewed on the Dick Cavett Show. Dick asked Bobby how many moves in advance could he see. Bobby just shrugged his shoulders and grinned, but he didn't say anything.

Dick pressed him for a answer, Bobby thought for a moment then said, sometimes I had to think 16 moves ahead. I think Bobby was conservative with his answer.

When a Grand Master sacrifices his Queen and leaves his opponent's Queen on the board, he has seen the line to victory. Bobby played a game where he sacrificed his Queen, he didn't exchange Queens, he left his opponent's Queen on the board.

And that game is called The Game of the Century against Donald Byrne back in 1956. And when you play that game back and count the moves after Bobby sacrifices his Queen it totals 24 moves!!!! So in that game he was able to see 24 moves ahead!!! Incredible! No one has even come close to that.

But I have to wonder did he really see that far ahead or did he miscalculate and pick it up along the way. It's hard to tell, but he did leave Byrne's Queen on the board and as I said before if you do that then you at least think you can see the line, and his line was successful.

I agree with you, sometimes Bobby miscalculated in his games so that means he wasn't always able to properly see his calculation. The proof is that he lost some games. He won more than he lost, but he still lost.

It's hard to believe that Bobby could see 24 moves ahead. I wish he was still alive and I had the opportunity to ask him. I bet someone or more asked him, but who? That intrigues me, the more I think about it the more intrigued I get. Somebody knows. Find that man or men! Maybe jessicafischerqueen knows who, I need to ask her. There's still a lot of things we don't know about Bobby. And the people that know aren't getting any younger.

Count the moves after Bobby lets his Queen get sacked, maybe even before.

D Byrne vs Fischer, 1956

Nov-06-10  SugarDom: Carlsen says he regularly sees 20 moves ahead half ply...
Nov-06-10  turbo231: <SugarDom: Carlsen says he regularly sees 20 moves ahead half ply..>

Yes I also heard that. I also heard that Carlsen said 20 moves but not with complete certainty. At what point does it get fuzzy for Carlsen? In other words how many moves can he see with complete confidence, or full ply. Also I heard he was talking about pawns and the end game.

Half ply doesn't count that's why it gets fuzzy for Carlsen. You have to think of all the possible variables with each move that you see in advance. As in if I move here what are all of my opponent possible moves.

It took Morphy 20 minutes to think about 14 moves ahead with all the possible variables his opponents could make. His 2 opponents took an hour before they took his Queen sacrifice. Evidently they thought it was safe to take Morphy's Queen. They got a big shock.

Paulsen vs Morphy, 1857

Nov-10-10  blazerdoodle: <Ivanchuk beat Nakamura in the final to win the event.> It says on the main page.

Where is the game? I can'f there game on my site?

Nov-10-10
Premium Chessgames Member
  Sastre: Cap d'Agde (Knockout) (2010).
Nov-11-10  blazerdoodle: Thanks. I just didn't see it under the names of the players when I viewed their games.
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