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|Nov-12-10|| ||Vakus: Some pics of Wang Hao expressing - "what the hell, why did I win this one"?|
|Nov-12-10|| ||Eyal: <when the Chinese came out of the playing hall, his face expressed astonishment: Why give up a rival?>|
You can also see a certain expression of surprise on his face on the live feed - the moment of resignation, when Gelfand extends his hand, is at about 21:24:40 (http://video.russiachess.org/browse...). Then they exchange a few words about the game - maybe Gelfand is trying to persuade him that White is winning...
|Nov-12-10|| ||tpstar: Did he say he was going to the Chinese to celebrate?! :-)|
Instructive endgame either way.
|Nov-12-10|| ||arnaud1959: <unsound: <arnaud> Perhaps you could enlighten me as to what that "clear winning plan" is. The point being that after 75...Ke6, taking the pawn on g7 is a clear draw after Rg1+.> That's exactly my point. Black must find the only way (Ke6) to save the draw. I didn't say "white clearly wins". I wrote that white's winning plan was clear. You must ask black how to defend and not white how to win. And a top GM like Gelfand was unable to find that defence (unless there's something we missed). With experience, in his head he was convinced that he was lost.|
|Nov-12-10|| ||unsound: <arnaud> Well, yes, I know Gelfand didn't find the defense, and I'm not arrogant enough to think that makes him an idiot. I have no idea why you are arguing with me, nor what about. Let's move on.|
|Nov-12-10|| ||arnaud1959: <unsound>I agree, let's move on.|
|Nov-12-10|| ||HeMateMe: Mamey got Carlsen's Candidates spot. Good for him. I hope he makes the most of it.|
|Nov-12-10|| ||DeepFriedLiver: As much as I am rooting for Wang Hao, it's a shame that he reached equal 1st because Gelfand resigned a drawn position. I hope he can win another game in the last two rounds to weaken the perception that he reached the top by accident.|
|Nov-12-10|| ||ChessXin: <DeepFriedLiver>
Why is it a shame? This win is the same as your opponent blundered. Also, Wang Hao missed a easy win against Eljanov. Overall, he played great so far.
|Nov-12-10|| ||Peligroso Patzer: <HeMateMe: Mamey got Carlsen's Candidates spot. Good for him. I hope he makes the most of it.>|
Actually, Mamedyarov was already in the Candidates as the designee of the original Azeri organizers. It is my understanding that Grischuk will take Carlsen's spot, and most of the first-round pairings will be changed. In the first round, it is now supposed to be Topalov vs. Kamsky; Gelfand vs, Mamedyarov; Aronian vs. Grischuk; and Kramnik vs, Radjabov.
|Nov-12-10|| ||HeMateMe: U right, its Grischuk. I guess a first rounder with top-of-his-game Aronian wasn't Carlsen's cup of tea.|
|Nov-12-10|| ||turbo231: I couldn't find the post game interview that Naka gave. Or did he give a interview? Does anyone know?|
|Nov-13-10|| ||firebyrd: <I guess a first rounder with top-of-his-game Aronian wasn't Carlsen's cup of tea> But Carlsen wasn't drawn against Aronian - he was to play Radjabov (who may have enjoyed a couple of days of relief when he learned that Carlsen was withdrawing, and then they changed the pairings and he got ... Kramnik)|
|Nov-13-10|| ||percyblakeney: <Radjabov (who may have enjoyed a couple of days of relief when he learned that Carlsen was withdrawing, and then they changed the pairings and he got ... Kramnik)>|
I think Kramnik suits Radjabov better. He has lost five times against Carlsen since 2007 while every game after 2003 between Kramnik and Radjabov has been drawn.
|Nov-13-10|| ||polarmis: On Tal and the effect of computers in modern chess: http://www.chessintranslation.com/2...|
Including Sosonko: <Itís absolutely clear to me that if Tal had been born fifteen years ago, or even twenty, he would never have chosen to play chess.>
|Nov-13-10|| ||muradov: I think Shark is the only one who would benefit by Carlsen dropping out of the cycle. With the new, altered pairings, he will play Gelfand in the first round and then the winner of Topalov-Kamsky. If he continues his current good form, he has a very realistic chance of reaching the final.|
|Nov-13-10|| ||Marmot PFL: Karjakin decide to sacrifice a knight|
|Nov-13-10|| ||znsprdx: Round 8 Aronian-Grishchuk
click for larger view
> 8:48 am EDST
Rybka suggests 24....Rx[N]e4
Surely Re6 is stronger
|Nov-13-10|| ||plang: <Karjakin decide to sacrifice a knight>|
Yea, but Kramnik can't really take it
|Nov-13-10|| ||The Rocket: Of course he can and should have taken the knight but he was a coward.. |
Even if it with optimal play is a draw(which is unclear)
its Karjakin who has to prove it not kramnik.
|Nov-13-10|| ||znsprdx: Fraud: they draw...why do they even bother playing?|
|Nov-13-10|| ||plang: <Of course he can and should have taken the knight but he was a coward..>|
This is not the 19th century - he is not honor-bound to accept it.
Even if computers show that the attack can be defended, practically, it is no easy matter over the Board. White would get a very powerful attack.
|Nov-13-10|| ||Whitehat1963: Six guys without a loss. Three guys with 11 losses among them. Geez!|
|Nov-13-10|| ||boz: I'm starting to feel bad for Eljanov.|
|Nov-13-10|| ||whiteshark: Eljanov blew it, again. So where's the news?|
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