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|Aug-16-11|| ||tpstar: <Now, some people will be self-controlled and remain nice in both cases, which is a good quality. Others will react very badly. Kasparov belongs to the second category. What he did was not good but he was right. IMO, that game didn't deserve the prize.>|
Kasparov was a great player and a great WC but he definitely had an arrogant streak, and some comments about his contemporaries were totally tactless. Anand was no more a "coffeehouse player" than Shirov was a "talented amateur" or Leko was "George from the Bahamas" for Brissago 2004.
By that point in his career, Kasparov had won so many awards and prizes that such a childish outburst was completely out of line. The spectacle definitely wasn't good for chess.
|Aug-16-11|| ||Mr. Bojangles: Kasparov's idiocy trailed him throughout his career right from the early 80s when he scoffed and laughed at his opponents' moves.|
What an ill-mannered, classless soul!
Just as well I wasn’t good at chess 'cos I woulda punched the punk’s life out, right there at the board!
|Aug-16-11|| ||ex0duz: In such a strong field, and what seems to be moro back in the 'zone'. i'm impressed with his performance, and not just here. His last round win against winner proves that he's not joking around anymore, you can't joke around in a field with Kramnik etc.. Moro's like the only non 2700+ rated player there(not including live rating of course)? |
Years covered: 1993 to 2011
Current FIDE rating: 2598
Highest rating achieved in database: 2624
Seems quite weak to me. I mean he's been playing since 93 and his peak is 2624 only.. doesn't Russia have heaps of stronger players? Has Bareev retired? Rublevski? Jakovenko? Vitiugov, Dreev, Tomashevsky, Malakhov etc who are all over 2700. This Galkin dude, how did he get in? There's plenty of high 2600's aswell, and this guys best peak is 2620 or something, and he's like 2570 or something now. He's like a punching bag. But at least he did better than Timofeev, who had a HORRIBLE performance with 1.5/7, UGH.
Karjakin also proved he's very very strong and winning Corus last year(?) wasn't a flue, taking equal 3rd with Grischuk and Kramnik who have both been playing quite well recently so some really strong players playing strong chess, especially Kramnik(he's back over 2800 in live rating now i think, anyone know what Moro'z rating is currently or at the next ratings?). I like Kramniks 'new' approach to chess in general. More sharper attacking games please, this tournament was pretty awesome just because Moro was in it, and you guys know it.. ;)
|Aug-16-11|| ||ex0duz: Oh yeah. I been too caught up in Moro that i forgot about the actual winner, Svidler who i also like(as a person, even though i've never met, chessbase descriptions of his personality seem to match with mine). Svidler won this whole damn thing a full half point ahead of an unusually tough field. Normally AFAIK, not all 4 strongest and 1-2 punching bag was gonna play..|
This is his, like what, Svidler's 6th Russian title? Quite the achievement for the man from St Petersberg. Chess Saint and Grunfeld extraordinaire, Mr Peter Svidler more like it! Bahahahaha!
|Aug-16-11|| ||samikd: <Kasparov is one of the nicest guys in chess>|
Are you drunk ? Or high ?
|Aug-16-11|| ||frogbert: ex0dus, galkin simply qualified from the "higher league", the qualification event. so he'd earned his place.|
|Aug-16-11|| ||The Rocket: <"samikd">
Read between the lines...
He was being ironic.. as was clearly indicated by his concluding remark.
|Aug-16-11|| ||csmath: There are no nice guys in chess.
Every single player that I know has a solid dose of arrogance and ego. This is also true on the very top. There might be some relatively nice guys like perhaps Leko. The only difference between Kasparov and many others is that Kasparov is impulsive and thus his arrogance comes out in public more often.
|Aug-17-11|| ||JoergWalter: <ccsmath: There are no nice guys in chess.>
However, there are rules of conduct.
To show respect to the co-players and chess public is also important - where would one be without them?
|Aug-17-11|| ||plang: <There are no nice guys in chess.>|
|Aug-17-11|| ||shach matov: What's this? Kramnik has another bad tourney and everybody is discussing the scary Beast from Baku Kasparov who causes all the insecure girls here whine how tough and ungentlemanly he is? stop your sissy whining already - this is chess, not gentle-ladies' club!|
|Aug-17-11|| ||moroloser: <shach matov:> Or maybe you should join some hardcore gang, get some ink, and finally be the super macho you really want to be. Chess is also a waste of time, go be a linebacker. And, if possible, take tough guy Kaspy with you... :-)|
|Aug-17-11|| ||moroloser: By the way. Svidler, Karjakin and Grishuk played white 4 times. Kramnik and Moro just three. I think that this in a 7 rounds tournament this makes quite big a difference.|
|Aug-17-11|| ||shach matov: The point is that some here like <Ms. Bojangles> act so bitterly as though Kasparov had his way with her and didn't call the next day! such childish anger and bitterness against one of the all-time greatest who the last 30 years has contributed more to popularize chess than anybody else. why concentrate on a coupe of incidents when he impulsively lost his temper instead of looking at all the positive contributions? Lets give respect where it's due!|
|Aug-17-11|| ||moroloser: <shach matov:> Yeah, I was just kidding. I just find any passionate outburst pro or against Kasparov or Kramnik a bit boring, by now. Just like hardline repubblicans trying to convince Obama's fans to vote Palin. And vice versa... :-)|
Most of all in this forum where a discussion about Kasparov's manners is really misplaced... don't you think?
|Aug-17-11|| ||SatelliteDan: I'am a Morphy,Capa,Fischer fan. But no question I think Kasparov and Karpov are on another planet.|
|Aug-17-11|| ||shach matov: <Most of all in this forum where a discussion about Kasparov's manners is really misplaced... don't you think?>|
Sure I do. It belongs on Fischer page, like most other nonsense, starting from fake poetry and ending with the best recipes for making homemade pickles:)
|Aug-17-11|| ||Everett: If Kasparov had prepared for Dortmund back then maybe 2003 wouldn't have been so terrible. He must of been too busy preparing for his very important future speeches.|
|Aug-17-11|| ||SatelliteDan: When it comes to Kaparov and Karpov, some how I'am not that impressed with Kramnik. Sorry.|
|Aug-17-11|| ||JoergWalter: <shach matov: ... one of the all-time greatest... Lets give respect where it's due!>
with due respect : "one of the all-time greatest" is utter syntactical nonsense.|
|Aug-17-11|| ||Bdellovibrio: I've been away for a while. Hooray for Svidler! What are people's favorite games from the tournament?|
|Aug-18-11|| ||solskytz: 7 players in the 2720-2740 range, 25 players (!) in the 2700-2720 range in the live ratings. |
This lower range begins to look like any regular rating list, with many names cramped over few points...
maybe the live rating lists should start from 2720 already?
|Aug-18-11|| ||kingscrusher: Video annotations for Svidler's recent wins in this tournament:|
|Sep-15-11|| ||positionalgenius: <Exodus> Yes several high profile russians were missing, but as the event featured Kramnik,svidler, karjakin and morozevich they had quite a it of star power I think!|
|Sep-15-11|| ||positionalgenius: And grischuk, of course.|
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