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World Cup (2011)

  PARTICIPANTS (sorted by highest achieved rating; click on name to see player's games)
Fabiano Caruana, Alexander Grischuk, Teimour Radjabov, Alexander Morozevich, Sergey Karjakin, Vassily Ivanchuk, Shakhriyar Mamedyarov, Peter Svidler, Maxime Vachier-Lagrave, Leinier Dominguez Perez, Ruslan Ponomariov, Gata Kamsky, Peter Leko, Vugar Gashimov, Michael Adams, Dmitry Jakovenko, Wang Yue, Wesley So, Pavel Eljanov, Alexey Shirov, Sergei Movsesian, Etienne Bacrot, Nikita Vitiugov, Radoslaw Wojtaszek, Ding Liren, Evgeny Tomashevsky, Judit Polgar, Ian Nepomniachtchi, Baadur Jobava, Viktor Bologan, Vladimir Malakhov, David Navara, Pentala Harikrishna, Dmitry Andreikin, Alexander Moiseenko, Zoltan Almasi, Evgeny Alekseev, Ni Hua, Francisco Vallejo-Pons, Anton Korobov, Alexander Riazantsev, Laurent Fressinet, Lazaro Bruzon, Le Quang Liem, Bu Xiangzhi, Li Chao, Sergei Zhigalko, Alexander Motylev, Rustam Kasimdzhanov, Zahar Efimenko, Liviu Dieter Nisipeanu, Ernesto Inarkiev, Ferenc Berkes, Boris Grachev, Emil Sutovsky, Alexander Onischuk, Peter Heine Nielsen, Yangyi Yu, Maxim Rodshtein, Igor Lysyj, Vladimir Potkin, Artyom Timofeev, Markus Ragger, Mikhail Kobalia, Rauf Mamedov, Evgeny Postny, Yifan Hou, Parimarjan Negi, Daniel Fridman, Zhou Jianchao, Sebastien Feller, Sergei Azarov, Abhijeet Gupta, Ivan Ivanisevic, Bartosz Socko, Arman Pashikian, Ngoc Truongson Nguyen, Evgeny Romanov, Ildar Khairullin, Constantin Lupulescu, Yuniesky Quesada Perez, Alexandr Hilario Takeda dos Santos Fier, Murtas Kazhgaleyev, Anton Filippov, Viorel Iordachescu, Mircea-Emilian Parligras, Yury Shulman, Yaroslav Zherebukh, Ahmed Adly, Ivan Salgado Lopez, Samuel Shankland, Alexander Ivanov, Ray Robson, Jorge Cori, Sandro Mareco, Yuri Drozdovskij, Ruben Felgaer, Evgeny E Vorobiov, Mark Paragua, Fidel Corrales Jimenez, Isan Reynaldo Ortiz Suarez, Mark Bluvshtein, Vlastimil Babula, Manuel Leon Hoyos, Stelios Halkias, Elshan Moradiabadi, Eric Hansen, Zhao Zong-Yuan, A R Saleh Salem, Baris Esen, Rinat Jumabayev, Namig Guliyev, Ziaur Rahman, Susanto Megaranto, Aleksei Pridorozhni, Alexei Bezgodov, Darcy Lima, Nikolai Kabanov, Essam El Gindy, Diego Rafael Di Berardino, Francisco De la Paz Perdomo, Robert Gwaze, Vladimir Genba, Henry Robert Steel, Hatim Ibrahim, Mejdi Kaabi

 page 1 of 16; games 1-25 of 391  PGN Download
Game  ResultMoves Year Event/LocaleOpening
1. V Iordachescu vs S Feller 1-085 2011 World CupE58 Nimzo-Indian, 4.e3, Main line with 8...Bxc3
2. A Korobov vs Zhou Jianchao 1-040 2011 World CupE11 Bogo-Indian Defense
3. L Bruzon vs Y Quesada Perez  ½-½26 2011 World CupE06 Catalan, Closed, 5.Nf3
4. I Ivanisevic vs Onischuk  ½-½44 2011 World CupE30 Nimzo-Indian, Leningrad
5. Bu Xiangzhi vs A Adly 1-040 2011 World CupD55 Queen's Gambit Declined
6. B Socko vs Bologan 0-142 2011 World CupE32 Nimzo-Indian, Classical
7. M Kobalia vs I Lysyj  ½-½31 2011 World CupC65 Ruy Lopez, Berlin Defense
8. E Inarkiev vs I Salgado Lopez 1-032 2011 World CupC67 Ruy Lopez
9. E Romanov vs B Grachev  ½-½45 2011 World CupD31 Queen's Gambit Declined
10. Y Shulman vs Potkin ½-½19 2011 World CupD16 Queen's Gambit Declined Slav
11. R Wojtaszek vs A Pashikian 1-039 2011 World CupD47 Queen's Gambit Declined Semi-Slav
12. Y Drozdovskij vs Motylev  ½-½21 2011 World CupD11 Queen's Gambit Declined Slav
13. A Riazantsev vs M Bluvshtein  1-038 2011 World CupD20 Queen's Gambit Accepted
14. A Filippov vs S Zhigalko 1-039 2011 World CupB90 Sicilian, Najdorf
15. Morozevich vs S Halkias ½-½23 2011 World CupB33 Sicilian
16. M Kazhgaleyev vs D Andreikin ½-½30 2011 World CupA56 Benoni Defense
17. M Rodshtein vs Harikrishna 0-134 2011 World CupE06 Catalan, Closed, 5.Nf3
18. Li Chao vs Ngoc Truongson Nguyen  ½-½38 2011 World CupA90 Dutch
19. M Parligras vs Y Yu  1-058 2011 World CupE39 Nimzo-Indian, Classical, Pirc Variation
20. A Gupta vs R Mamedov ½-½52 2011 World CupE90 King's Indian
21. P H Nielsen vs E Postny  ½-½67 2011 World CupD10 Queen's Gambit Declined Slav
22. E Vorobiov vs Sutovsky  ½-½56 2011 World CupA15 English
23. N Guliyev vs Jobava 0-161 2011 World CupB42 Sicilian, Kan
24. Le Quang Liem vs S Megaranto 1-058 2011 World CupE06 Catalan, Closed, 5.Nf3
25. B Esen vs A Moiseenko  ½-½48 2011 World CupD38 Queen's Gambit Declined, Ragozin Variation
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Sep-19-11
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  Meatwad: It's too early to tell right now, but at the moment it's hard to distinguish So's career from, say, Andre Volokitin's at his age. Both fantastically talented, but Andrei seemed to reach his limits for one reason or another and never quite cracked the very top. Will So do the same? Time will tell. Anyways, wasn't he knocked out of this like eight rounds ago?
Sep-19-11  Boratco: <logic courtesy of anyone who thinks that a 2650-player <generally> is as strong as a 2700-player, because "frogbert claims that 40-50 points make no difference" (implicitly: regardless of context).

i must be really, really dumb ...>

Yeah, I must be really really dumb not to understand what you said, and now claim you didn't. You must have said it a million times (exagerated a bit) in Magnus Carlsen page and here. Oh well, there we go again, flip flopping all the time. Sometimes we do fail to remember things we said, I would be grateful when medical tech finds a cure to Alheismerz (wrong speling) disease.

I think the only thing that you haven't repeated was your proposal for the qualifiers which went from here to there within 2 months.

Okay, Mr. Frogbert, give them numbers and I almost forget, give them green cards, that is if you remember.

Sep-19-11  arkansaw: Shipov's in the house again, isn't that lovely?

PS: please put the so..so guy to rest already, enough is enough :(

Sep-19-11  Boratco: blame it on the numbers. saw..saw:(
Sep-19-11  laskerian: <Boratco>: I also think my fact are wrong...and inaccurate, I can't remember all on top of my head but it's more like it. Bu-So I think is 1-1, So-Ivanchuk 1.5-.5 same with Kamsky and could have easily been a 2-0 if Gm Wesley So isn't a nice guy.:D)

Wesley So is a very good chess player, but please do not make it look like just because he beat Ivanchuk and Kamsky in a similar KO tournament before, he is already better than the 2. Only 2 battles do not make a war. I am pretty sure that in a long match,say at least 12 games, sooner or later it will become clear that Ivanchuk and Kamsky were simply off-axis at that time. People have down periods, and Wesley caught the two in theirs.

For all your fanaticism, you already seem to think that 2 games make a database. If that is valid, we might as well decide the world championship by a single "winner-takes-all-the-marbles" game. Speaking of overhead costs, I think a lot of sponsors will like that idea.

I am not sure, but was it also you (or someone else) who remarked that Wesley is at par with Gelfand (just because he drew the 2 games they played)? Even a high school student who conducts experiments in his science class knows that after 2 trials, he cannot yet make a valid conclusion.

I want to emphasize that Wesley has the potential to make it great someday, but at this point, even Wesley himself will probably admit that Kamsky, Gelfand and Ivanchuk are simply better players than him. Well, as far as I remember, even Kosteniuk managed to beat Carlsen in a blitz game, but does that make her the better player? Happy, yes...but better? In a distorted world, maybe.

Sep-19-11  Blunderdome: frogbert's bringing the Sorites paradox into this ;)
Sep-19-11  putot: Peter Svidler wins !

congrats!

Sep-19-11  Billy Vaughan: Congrats to Svidler and Ivanchuk! :)
Sep-19-11  bigatin: <For all your fanaticism, you already seem to think that 2 games make a database. If that is valid, we might as well decide the world championship by a single "winner-takes-all-the-marbles" game. Speaking of overhead costs, I think a lot of sponsors will like that idea.>

You're right...maybe Wes is better...it's a pity we would never know at his point in time...The organizers would rather invite Gelfand and all other guys with the bloated elo's ...Will never give Wes a chance...

But to "inferno" with them organizers.

Wes has made himself participant to the coming World Blitz Championship this November.

Along with the other 5 qualifiers in the Aeroflot blitz, they take their podium rightfully deserved...

While the rest of the combatants from the Tal Memorial are again chosen from them bloated <bureaucrat> puffer fishhttp://www.google.com.ph/search?tbm... not need to qualify the hard way...their bloated elos saved them the day.

Sep-19-11  Boratco: Congrats to Peter Svidler for the WIN!!!

<laskerian:> Sorry? When did I say Gm Wesley So is better than Ivanchuk and Kamsky? As far as I can remember, I am just pointing out the he is playing way above his elo rating by holding his ground against the elite. Never that I said he is better than anyone except his current rating.

I think you need to read the whole scenario to understand which way I am coming from instead of only part of the exchanges.

<Ivanchuk and Kamsky were simply off-axis at that time.> Only them can say if they are off axis or not, and if they know for sure they are off axis like you said, they should have stayed home. Why even bother going to the tournament.

Sep-19-11  Billy Vaughan: Oh my goodness, hearing the commentators sing "Piano Man" made my day :)
Sep-19-11  bigatin: so chuck advances...hopes he becomes the next contender...Bruce would be a tough nut to crack:

http://youtu.be/TYHZEu7Y7DU

Sep-19-11  Boratco: <Blunderdome: frogbert's bringing the Sorites paradox into this ;)>

He surely did this time but no other times.:o)

Sep-19-11  Ezzy: Great year for Svidler. Russian Champion, and World Cup Champion, and 1/2pt away from becoming joint European champion. Not a bad CV for the year.

Last years winner (Gelfand) went on to win the candidates, and earns a pop at the title next year. Could Svidler do the same?

Sep-19-11  HSOL: Given So's ELO rating has been pretty much been the same for the last two years, surely overall he's NOT playing better than his ELO, but playing just about as good as his ELO indicates he should?

Players going through vast improvement quickly might be underrated, but So has remained at pretty much the same level for 2 years and about 200 games. I would say that's indicative he's not rated far from his "true" rating.

If So performs better than his rating against 2700+ and about zero movement in rating overall, it means he performs worse than expected against another rating group, so the same argument can be used to say he's overrated.

Sep-19-11  laskerian: Congratulations to Vassily Ivanchuk (it must have felt so good to win against an old tormentor and qualify for the Candidates at the same time)...
Sep-19-11  Kanatahodets: <There are dozens of players in a similar situation -- strong grandmasters who don't have the potential to reach the very top.> Wesley So is young and he has potentials to reach the very top. In the end; it took ages for Fischer to become the best. On the other hand I am pretty sure that Svidler, Ivanchuck, Pono and Gris will never reach the very top. So, chances for Wesley are at least non-zero For these four very nice and super strong guys chnaces sum up to epsilon which can be made arbitrarily small. This doesnt mean anything offensive. P.S. The very top means WC and/or top rated stability.
Sep-19-11  Strongest Force: PS has a very nice style and if he is ready to fight I think he can be the number one player in the world.
Sep-19-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  Kinghunt: Interesting to note that Grischuk, despite finishing second, actually <lost> rating points at the World Cup.
Sep-19-11  yalie: all in all a great event. good fighting chess with a deserving winner and deserving candidates.
Sep-19-11  coolchess1: Congrats to Peter for a magnificent victory. I would like to see a Svidler-Anand WCC match in 2014.
Sep-19-11  benjinathan: <The organizers would rather invite Gelfand and all other guys with the bloated elo's ...Will never give Wes a chance...>

Wasn't he at Tata? Wasn't he in the B section? Didn't he come in 4th?

Sep-19-11  Matsumoto: Fisher - who's that? If he had been around today and had had the guts to play (which would be highly doubtful) he would have been thoroughly crushed by any player above round-abouts the 2600 level - without a shread of doubt any 2700+ player would smash him even blindfold.
Sep-19-11  Strongest Force: Matsumoto, you must be smoking some strong funky stuff. Please pass me that dream-making pipe.
Sep-19-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  Bureaucrat: Well done, Peter Svidler! Congrats.
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