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|Nov-20-11|| ||arkansaw: here's something to talk about: What is a Women's World Championship without Polgar?|
|Nov-20-11|| ||whiteshark: < What is a Women's World Championship without Polgar?> It's <the norm<>>. :D|
|Nov-20-11|| ||Rrrto2005: RD 5: draw|
|Nov-20-11|| ||Domdaniel: Even native speakers of a language often alter their pronunciations of names when speaking a different language. It might have to do with phoneme patterns - the sounds that 'go best' in the language - or with listeners' expectations.|
For example, the Danish-Scottish GM Jacob Aagard uses two different versions of his surname: the Danish one (approximately "Oah-yaar") and a British one ("Ahh Guard"). Even the common Russian name Boris changes according to context: 'Bah-rees' when spoken by Russians, speaking Russian; but 'Borris' spoken by Russians using other languages.
For further info, check out the brilliant series of YouTube videos made by <Annie K.> dealing with the pronunciation of Grandmasters' names.
|Nov-20-11|| ||FSR: <Domdaniel> About eight years ago I visited Santiago, Chile with my family. Although it was mid-day, my wife and daughter were still sleeping, and I decided to go exploring outside. Our guide book seemed to indicate that the "Florida" shopping district was near our hotel. I asked about this at the front desk, and to my surprise they had no idea what I was talking about. I went out on the street and asked passersby "Donde esta Florida?" They were obviously trying to help me, but also didn't know what I meant. I had a thought, and ventured "Donde esta Floreehdah?" They responded, "Ah! Floreehdah!" and pointed me in the right direction. Silly me - I had thought of Florida as an English word, and expected it to be pronounced the same way that Americans pronounce the name of the state.|
|Nov-20-11|| ||redwhitechess: hoping to see some girl fight here. but now heading to be the most boring women wcc match (by end result ;P).|
|Nov-20-11|| ||Petrosianic: Which matches are you comparing it to, if any?|
|Nov-20-11|| ||Domdaniel: <FSR> Same story, on a smaller scale, with the Maine town of Calais, near the Canadian border. Locals pronounce it with a final 's'. The French, who probably used it first, don't.|
Though they must have at *some* point in the past, otherwise why spell it like that?
Come to think of it, French names don't travel well -- like Orleans and New Orleans, or Detroit, etc. There's an 'Amiens Street' in Dublin, pronounced 'EY-mee-ennz' which would give a French person collywobbles (une crise de colie).
I've been in two places called 'Blackpool' - an English town with the stress on the first syllable, and an Irish suburb with the stress on the 2nd. They sound totally different. You could easily be misunderstood by a local, just for using the wrong stress.
|Nov-20-11|| ||brankat: The contents of the last three pages has been Linguistics. That's how exciting the match is :-)|
|Nov-20-11|| ||redwhitechess: that's right... we need Zhu Chen vs Kosteniuk type match!|
|Nov-20-11|| ||HeMateMe: five games, the full points will be stingy. Yifand isn't going to do anything silly, just keep playing well.|
|Nov-20-11|| ||FSR: The match is only ten games? That's lame.|
|Nov-20-11|| ||Domdaniel: <brankat> I thought two of the games were excellent -- Hou's win and Humpy's 'easy' draw. But I reserved my comments for the game pages.|
What's there to say about the match? The most exciting thing to happen here was when CG forgot to post the result of the 4th game.
Be thankful it's only Linguistics. It could be those other popular pastimes, slander and hockey.
|Nov-20-11|| ||HeMateMe: you have something against people who are missing some teeth?|
|Nov-21-11|| ||brankat: <Domdaniel> <The most exciting thing to happen here was when CG forgot to post the result of the 4th game.> Agreed :-)|
Took me 1/2 an hour to find out what the score was. And a couple of seconds to discard my "Chess Bookie Game" ticket :-)
|Nov-21-11|| ||HeMateMe: The games are live on WhyChess. You can get the results there and on other sites. Why is a draw here any better or worse than a draw at the Tal Mem.? After all, it is a world championship match. The games should be close.|
Gelfand and Anand is going to have a lot of draws. The comments could well get nasty: "This is what you get when a vegetarian is world champion! We need a meat eater champ!" Really intelligent stuff, like that.
|Nov-21-11|| ||arkansaw: Gelfand will play 12 games? but if Tal Memorial is anything to go by he would be lucky to make it into game 7 against Anand.|
|Nov-21-11|| ||Akavall: Ng3 was nice.|
|Nov-21-11|| ||Bibliophage: looks like yifan has found the antidote|
|Nov-21-11|| ||Redsoul: Koneru should try another opening for her next white game|
|Nov-21-11|| ||HeMateMe: bring on Judit, showdown at the St. Louis Chess Club! Six game match, unofficial, Judit finally playing a match against a female world champion.|
|Nov-21-11|| ||siamesedream: <Game 6: Hou Yifan won despite health problems|
The World champion won the sixth game of the match and is now two points ahead of the challenger Humpy Koneru.
Although White got an edge from the opening, the Chinese managed to equalize and break the position in the time trouble to come out as a winner.
The outcome is even more surprising when one knows that Hou Yifan spent several hours in the hospital the previous night. 17 years old experienced severe pains in her stomach aria and was immediately taken into the best hospital of Tirana by the organizers and FIDE officials. The doctors checked her medical condition, but the necessary tests proved there was no other problem, beside psychological pressure. Hou Yifan declined taking any pain killers. After this “preparation” for the game she nevertheless sat at the board in a perfect fighting condition and managed not only to neutralize chess preparation of the opponent, but take an upper hand.
In the next four games Koneru should fight two points back to survive in the match.
On the 22nd of November the players have a rest day. The 7th game of the match will be played on the 23rd of November.>
|Nov-21-11|| ||WannaBe: Koneru w/ white, 1. d4, Hou w/ white, 1. e4 hmmmm...|
Perhaps Koneru may have to play a Sicilian and go for a win w/ black.
|Nov-21-11|| ||HeMateMe: <the Chinese managed to equalize > Um...is a proofreader needed for some of the web sites? Maybe "The Chinese Woman...." would be better? It's not plural, there isn't a committe playing against Humpy, just Yifan.|
|Nov-21-11|| ||Arctor: <HeMateMe> <Um...is a proofreader needed for some of the web sites? Maybe "The Chinese Woman...." would be better? It's not plural, there isn't a committe playing against Humpy, just Yifan.>|
American - Americans
German - Germans
Russian - Russians
Chinese - Chineses (oh wait, that doesn't work)
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