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Snowdrops and Old-hands Tournament

Robert Huebner6/8(+4 -0 =4)[view games]
Mariya Muzychuk5/8(+2 -0 =6)[view games]
Vlastimil Hort5/8(+2 -0 =6)[view games]
Boris Gulko5/8(+3 -1 =4)[view games]
Rafael Vaganian5/8(+3 -1 =4)[view games]
Natalia Pogonina3/8(+0 -2 =6)[view games]
Tania Sachdev2.5/8(+0 -3 =5)[view games]
Eva Kulovana0.5/8(+0 -7 =1)[view games]

 page 1 of 2; games 1-25 of 32  PGN Download
Game  ResultMoves Year Event/LocaleOpening
1. Vaganian vs M Muzychuk 0-134 2011 Snowdrops and Old-handsA04 Reti Opening
2. Huebner vs N Pogonina  ½-½44 2011 Snowdrops and Old-handsE32 Nimzo-Indian, Classical
3. Gulko vs T Sachdev  ½-½35 2011 Snowdrops and Old-handsE59 Nimzo-Indian, 4.e3, Main line
4. Hort vs E Kulovana 1-045 2011 Snowdrops and Old-handsA07 King's Indian Attack
5. N Pogonina vs Gulko ½-½37 2011 Snowdrops and Old-handsB64 Sicilian, Richter-Rauzer Attack
6. E Kulovana vs Vaganian ½-½17 2011 Snowdrops and Old-handsC10 French
7. T Sachdev vs Huebner 0-157 2011 Snowdrops and Old-handsE20 Nimzo-Indian
8. M Muzychuk vs Hort ½-½69 2011 Snowdrops and Old-handsC43 Petrov, Modern Attack
9. Hort vs T Sachdev  ½-½41 2011 Snowdrops and Old-handsA07 King's Indian Attack
10. Huebner vs M Muzychuk  ½-½42 2011 Snowdrops and Old-handsB33 Sicilian
11. Vaganian vs N Pogonina 1-024 2011 Snowdrops and Old-handsD53 Queen's Gambit Declined
12. Gulko vs E Kulovana 1-032 2011 Snowdrops and Old-handsD15 Queen's Gambit Declined Slav
13. N Pogonina vs Hort ½-½61 2011 Snowdrops and Old-handsC65 Ruy Lopez, Berlin Defense
14. M Muzychuk vs Gulko 1-031 2011 Snowdrops and Old-handsB64 Sicilian, Richter-Rauzer Attack
15. T Sachdev vs Vaganian ½-½21 2011 Snowdrops and Old-handsD31 Queen's Gambit Declined
16. E Kulovana vs Huebner 0-159 2011 Snowdrops and Old-handsB08 Pirc, Classical
17. N Pogonina vs Huebner  ½-½42 2011 Snowdrops and Old-handsC65 Ruy Lopez, Berlin Defense
18. T Sachdev vs Gulko ½-½24 2011 Snowdrops and Old-handsE92 King's Indian
19. M Muzychuk vs Vaganian ½-½37 2011 Snowdrops and Old-handsC14 French, Classical
20. E Kulovana vs Hort  0-149 2011 Snowdrops and Old-handsB16 Caro-Kann, Bronstein-Larsen Variation
21. Huebner vs T Sachdev 1-032 2011 Snowdrops and Old-handsA46 Queen's Pawn Game
22. Gulko vs N Pogonina 1-039 2011 Snowdrops and Old-handsE46 Nimzo-Indian
23. Vaganian vs E Kulovana 1-051 2011 Snowdrops and Old-handsD11 Queen's Gambit Declined Slav
24. Hort vs M Muzychuk  ½-½31 2011 Snowdrops and Old-handsA80 Dutch
25. E Kulovana vs Gulko  0-130 2011 Snowdrops and Old-handsB08 Pirc, Classical
 page 1 of 2; games 1-25 of 32  PGN Download
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Dec-11-11
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  Domdaniel: They should try reversing genders ... young guns and battle-axes ...
Dec-11-11
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  jessicafischerqueen: ahhhh that's a great idea. <Nona Gaprindshavilivvilivlivliii> is still alive? She was a great world champion and a good friend of <Mikhail Tal>.
Dec-11-11
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  visayanbraindoctor: Does anyone know if this tournament is rated?
Dec-11-11
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  Domdaniel: Why might it not be, O good <Vishy & a Brain Doctor>?

If the 'snowdrops' were mopping up Elo points from the old gents, there might be some reason not to rate it. But it seems like a normal event, aside from the odd name.

The Brits should run a 'Kind Hearts and Coronets' tournament, where nice, generous GMs donate rating points to deserving royals.

Dec-11-11
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  HeMateMe: <They should try reversing genders >

"Huns & Nuns"?

Dec-11-11
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  SteinitzLives: <They should try reversing genders >

boogers vs. cougars
or the dispirited vs. the desperate

Dec-11-11
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  OhioChessFan: "Young Birds and Old ______?"
Dec-12-11
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  visayanbraindoctor: Huebner, Hort, and Vaganian are former Candidates, and Gulko is a former Soviet Union chess champion. In their prime, they would swamp the ladies by an even bigger margin.

GM Hort is known to have emigrated to Germany; I am not sure if he has played for the German national team in international team competitions.

Huebner might be the strongest native-born German chess master after Lasker.

Which reminds me to ask- why has Germany, such a chess giant in the late 1800s and early 1900s, failed to produce players near Lasker's caliber since then?

Dec-12-11
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  HeMateMe: "Ingenues and Kinda Used"?
Dec-12-11
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  Honza Cervenka: <Which reminds me to ask- why has Germany, such a chess giant in the late 1800s and early 1900s, failed to produce players near Lasker's caliber since then?>

I would say that for the most part of the 20th century they had some other troubles and priorities than to sit in Café Kaiserhof sipping coffee, eating Sacher cake and playing chess all the day.:-)

Dec-12-11
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  HeMateMe: Well, West German Huebner was quite a powerhouse, playing in the Candidates matches three times. East German Wolfgang Uhlmann was one of the the better players of his generation.

You get a Lasker, you get spoiled, unfortunately.

Could be a wait, for another great German player. Holland had Max Euwe. Thirty years after Max's prime they had Jan Timman. Since then...... Luke Van Wyly?

Dec-12-11
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  Honza Cervenka: Wolfgang Unzicker, Lothar Schmid, Klaus Darga, Ludwig Rellstab Sr or Paul Schmidt, not to mention unfortunate Klaus Junge were not so bad too.
Dec-12-11
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  visayanbraindoctor: <Honza Cervenka: Wolfgang Unzicker, Lothar Schmid, Klaus Darga, Ludwig Rellstab Sr or Paul Schmidt, not to mention unfortunate Klaus Junge > Klaus Junge may have been Candidates material if he was not KIA. I suspect that the 1950s may have been different had he survived WW2.
Dec-12-11  King Death: < visayanbraindoctor: Klaus Junge may have been Candidates material if he was not KIA. I suspect that the 1950s may have been different had he survived WW2. >

This seems like a bit of a reach somehow, though he already had some decent results while being very young. It takes more than just talent to get the job done at that high a level, as you clearly understand given your intelligent and balanced discussion of Anand and Kasparov elsewhere.

Dec-12-11
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  visayanbraindoctor: <King Death> That's right. Had Junge survived, he would have to face the monsters of Soviet chess in the 1950s- Botvinnik, Bronstein, Smyslov, not to mention a rising Tal, Spassky, and Petrosian in the 1960s. They would probably have run him down if he was a lazy fellow. With some hard work though he may have made it into the Candidates with them, and it would have been interesting to have seen him battling it out with them.

Junge did play Keres 3x, but that's not much.

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches...

Dec-12-11
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  FSR: <Domdaniel: ... The Brits should run a 'Kind Hearts and Coronets' tournament, where nice, generous GMs donate rating points to deserving royals.>

Like the GMs did in the old days to Prince Andrey Dadian of Mingrelia?

Dec-13-11  Nemesistic: <Prince Andre of Mingella> not to be confused with <Prince Andrew of Penascola> judging by his winning percentage
Dec-13-11
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  FSR: I remember Pachman writing about Junge in "Pachman's Decisive Games." He thought Junge was a potential world champion had he not died in World War II. He was an officer in the Nazi Army, so I'm not sure how sorry I should feel for him.
Dec-14-11
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  HeMateMe: Next year the girls are going to change their group name to "The Honeydrippers" and win. Big.
Dec-18-11
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  Octavia: <I'm not sure how sorry I should feel for him.> You should feel sorry for ALL soldiers for they got brainwashed into fighting against other brainwashed people.
Dec-18-11  King Death: <Octavia: You should feel sorry for ALL soldiers for they got brainwashed into fighting against other brainwashed people.>

Maybe you should try explaining this worldly point of view to Red Army soldiers who fought against the Nazis under Stalin, with officers holding bayonets at their backs.

Dec-18-11  Dredge Rivers: Snowdrops keep falling on my hands!
Dec-03-12
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  OhioChessFan: Is the tournament coming back this year?
Dec-10-12
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  OhioChessFan: Yayyyyyy, it's back.
Dec-11-12
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  HeMateMe: I wanna be a Snowdrop.
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