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| Jan-17-12 | | moppa: I think that the main point why the World Championship title things cause so much debate is that it's a really slow cycle. Not every one can keep up their prime for several years... It's the same with the Olympics. For me, that doesn't mean that the title would be less significant. Gelfand won the Candidates - all praise to him. Carlsen will have his chance in the future and he will have the motivation - if nothing else, there is the money - but realistically, has Carlsens play been affected by lack of motivation? I think not. |
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| Jan-17-12 | | matebay: The ICC has proven most effective in determining the best blitz player in the world. Why could't it be a venue to produce the best conventional/classical chess player as well. The only improvement I am proposing is increase security against cheating using an engine. And this can be done by putting all the protagonists in one cordoned area surrounded by ample security ...and let them engage in a battle of wits for a considerable period of time....I'm witty yeah? |
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| Jan-17-12 | | matebay: The present WCC cyle needs a total revamp. The FIDE rating list as well for being discriminatory towards those who are always invited to join big tourneys with lucrative elo points for grabs. They are discriminatory against the non-envitees. It belongs to the dinosaur age. The modern age dictates the use and aid of the computer and the internet. ICC format is the way to go... |
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Jan-17-12
 | | Bureaucrat: Carlsen is leading the tournament after some great chess, and some people ramble on about world championships. Sounds familiar? It's like a broken record. Get over it, people. No need to get all worked up about someone's personal career decision. Carlsen will probably take part in the next cycle. In the mean time it's Anand or Gelfand. Go Gelfand! |
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| Jan-17-12 | | matebay: Go ICC...Go Wesley...I also need to go...nice to grace your company. |
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| Jan-17-12 | | King Death: <Rolfo> And that's "predictable" in the best sense of that word, just being consistent about things. |
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| Jan-17-12 | | Gryz: Today (Tuesday) is the 4th round.
Tomorrow is the first resting-day. |
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Jan-17-12
 | | visayanbraindoctor: <Carlsen is leading the tournament after some great chess, and some people ramble on about world championships.> I do not think that every time Carlsen is leading a tournament, that condition will cause people to talk about the WC. I am not sure when this discussion started, but when I saw it I decided to place in my opinion supporting the institute of the WC, since I am supporter of the WC. I would guess other people would react similarly as I did. |
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Jan-17-12
 | | cro777: <Pravitel: So far Giri is the only youngster roughly keeping up with the pace of Carlsen.> "It is difficult to make predictions, especially about the future!?" Giri or Nakamura? In today's game the opening is the Sicilian Dragon. 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 g6 6. Be3 Bg7 7. f3 Nc6 8. Qd2 O-O 9. Bc4 Nxd4 A rare move
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10. Bxd4 Be6
"Usually when I'm inspired I play 1.e4 and when I play 1.e4 I get inspired". (Giri) |
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| Jan-17-12 | | firebyrd: Gelfand is again trying to crack Radjabov's KID. He hasn't had much luck so far, according to CG he is +0-3=5 in regulation games (http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches...), but maybe today is the day he pulls it off. Related question, why do some players insist on discussing the same opening, even when they are doing badly, like Gelfand here? Wouldn't he be better off trying something else against Radjabov? |
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| Jan-17-12 | | King Death: < firebyrd: ...why do some players insist on discussing the same opening, even when they are doing badly, like Gelfand here?> "I may yet be forced to admit the Winawer (French) is sound. But I doubt it!" Fischer. Fortunately he learned to overcome his stubbornness. |
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Jan-17-12
| | visayanbraindoctor: <why do some players insist on discussing the same opening, even when they are doing badly, like Gelfand here?> Even strong world champions do the same thing. Witness the failed QGD marathon Capablanca indulged in the 1927 match, when he could have easily switched to the QID or other openings against Alekhine. Seems a peculiarity of the human psyche. "I want to prove the opening I initially chose against you correct!" |
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| Jan-17-12 | | zluria: Capa used to say that you learn much more from losing than you do from winning. By this measure, perhaps losing a lot in a particular opening makes you best suited to play it! For Gelfand in particular, perhaps it makes some sense to play the openings he's weak in. He seems to view this tournament as training for the WC match. when you train, it makes sense to challenge yourself. |
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| Jan-17-12 | | zluria: Besides, the KID is hard to avoid if you're a d4 player like Gelfy. What's he gonna do, switch to 1. e4 and face the shveshnikov? Not much of an improvement! |
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| Jan-17-12 | | kia0708: Topalov - Gashimov, the chessboard was almost empty already after 20 moves. Slaughterhouse. |
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| Jan-17-12 | | Jim Bartle: kkderek: "Lucky? Well he gotta dealt with Karpov, IMNSHO stronger than Kramniks, Anands Topalovs Karjakins Radjabovs adn etc." The discussion was referring to how easy it was for Kasparov to win the candidates tournament. Karpov was champion and not in the candidates. Still I'll stick with my point: Karpov was great, and 12 years older than Kasparov. The next great player, Anand, was born in 1969. |
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Jan-17-12
 | | Diademas: < matebay: How to determine the best player in the world: 1. gather the top 100 chess players 1. (including Wesley So) according to FIDE rating in one tournament hall. 2. Give them each a computer with broadband internet connection. 3. Let them log in to the ICC.
4. Then let the battle begin.
5. Each should play 2 conventional games per day against a player of their own choice via the invite feature. They are not allowed to leave the premises...but must be provided free accommodation inside. 6.. The one who is in the top of the rating list after one year gets the distinction. And there can only be one! Go Wesley!>
Isnt that how they elect a new pope? |
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| Jan-17-12 | | kia0708: Nakamura draw again. |
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Jan-17-12
| | cro777: Topalov - Gashimov
Position after 2o...Rab8
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and after 30....Qd5
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| Jan-17-12 | | zluria: Topalov- Gashimov is a likely draw. Naka's game has been drawn, while Karjakin and Carlen both played the Berlin Wall. Aronian and Gelfand both seem to be playing interesting games, but the game of the day for me (so far) is Ivanchuk's game (no surprise). |
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Jan-17-12
 | | Sokrates: Chess history is packed with players who had the strength of being world champions. Rubinstein was one of them, Schlechter could easily have become a champ if he hadn't been so gentlemanlike in the last match game with Lasker. Capa didn't get a chance to win back his championship. And you have Bronstein and Keres, both suffering from the oppressing Soviet regime not allowing them to unfold their talents, while Botvinnik made the rules. Carlsen is a young man, and I think that he will grab his chance in the next circle. Meanwhile, he should be content with proving his enormous strength in tournaments such as this one. He doesn't owe anything to the chess community - he plays wonderful games, and that is really what it's all about, isn't it? |
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Jan-17-12
 | | HeMateMe: < In a reasonable cycle i doubt if gelfand would ever qualify for the championship final.> It was a reasonable cycle. The knockout matches were shortenned to 4 games, from the more traditional 6 games. That is unfortunate, but every player had his chances. Some, like Grischuk played the fool, and ruined their chances. You have to show up, if you want to win. |
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Jan-17-12
| | visayanbraindoctor: <zluria> White might have winning chances. Note the recent Kramnik vs M Vachier-Lagrave, 2011 Topalov should push the position for all its worth. |
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Jan-17-12
| | cro777: Giri - Nakamura is a short draw in the Sicilian Dragon. Position after 18...Rc5
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Draw agreed. |
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Jan-17-12
 | | achieve: And Giri goes for a short draw once again... Unsurprising of the talented weasel. I've addressed this unwelcome tendency of his repeatedly, and this time is one too many, at the wrong time. Hope Anish will prove me wrong, but really for several years now Giri has excelled in drawing significantly higher ranked opponents without any fight or effort. See for example Univé Crown Group tourneys over the past years as evidence. |
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