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|Feb-19-12|| ||Domdaniel: <Niels> Concise, moi? You. Cannot. Be. Serious.|
*bleary-eyed face from just watching Bunratty*
|Feb-19-12|| ||King Death: <Domdaniel> When I played (my last event was in 1988 or 1989) it was much tougher to get a FIDE rating here in the US than it is now and impossible unless you played one of the big swisses or were in a club where you could play just the right mix of FIDE players (New York, LA or San Fran). Sometime after I stopped playing the floor on published ratings for men was lowered to 1800 from 2200.|
|Feb-19-12|| ||Ezzy: FIDE's requirement for titles
<1.13 That no more than two rounds be played on any one day.
1.14 The tournament must be played by using one of the following rates of play:
90 minutes with 30 seconds cumulative increment for each move starting from first move
90 minutes for 40 moves + 30 minutes with 30 seconds cumulative increment for each move starting from the first move
100 minutes for 40 moves followed by 50 minutes for 20 moves, then 15 minutes for the remaining moves with 30 seconds cumulative increment for each move starting from first move
40 moves in 2 hours followed by 30 minutes for the rest of the game
40 moves in 2 hours followed by 60 minutes for the rest of the game
40 moves in 2 hours followed by 20 moves in 1 hour followed by 30 minutes for the rest of the game >
The time control for Bunratty is 90 minutes + 15 seconds, which is not a FIDE time control. Also, obviously you can't exceed 2 games per day.
|Feb-19-12|| ||Domdaniel: <King Death> I remember the 2200 limit ... it led to situations where players had played in a couple of olympiads for smaller countries, but were still unrated by FIDE as they didn't make it over the 2200 threshold.|
As you say, they lowered it to 1800 and then lowered it again. They want FIDE ratings for the masses ... one system worldwide operated from FIDE central ... eh, world government, etc.
|Feb-19-12|| ||Domdaniel: Position between IMs Donaldson and Collins, penultimate round, Sunday morning:
click for larger view
After 17 moves in a Neo-Gruenfeld, Black wins the Exchange. Or White concedes it to be rid of the annoying LSB on d3: 15.Ne1!? with some compensation is better than 15.Re1 Nb4 16.Rc1 Qxa5, when White is two pawns down without counterplay.
It gets sharper when Donaldson plays 17...f4. And then ...
Draw agreed. What? Are they extracting the urine?
There's also something dodgy about Gawain Jones's walkover vs Istratescu. It would seem that Istratescu didn't wake up on time, and defaulted in due course. Jones, playing Black, was awarded the game.
But why does the score read "1.d4 0-1" as if White had managed to make one move? Did he show up with half a second left on his clock?
Morning-after wooziness abounds today.
|Feb-19-12|| ||King Death: <Domdaniel> Could FIDE have first lowered the standard after Ilyumzhinov took over from Karpomanes and made a move to get more fees streaming in?|
|Feb-19-12|| ||Domdaniel: <Ezzy> Ah. That's clearer, thanks - I hadn't noticed that Bunratty only has a 15" increment. The local league (and other weekend tournaments) use the 90' + 30" format.|
What is not entirely clear to me is whether "rules for titles" includes "rules for getting a rating" ... is a FIDE rating considered to be a title?
|Feb-19-12|| ||Ezzy: <Domdaniel: What is not entirely clear to me is whether "rules for titles" includes "rules for getting a rating" ... is a FIDE rating considered to be a title?>|
You do need a certain rating to get a title, so I guess it's all tied into the same rules.
|Feb-19-12|| ||Domdaniel: The Hebden-Pein result went up as a draw, then changed to 1-0, then nada. Meanwhile Baburin has either beaten Lopez on time, or drawn on the board.|
A confusing morning.
I think I've learned a valuable lesson here. Everyone's brain deteriorates over the course of a weekender, not just mine.
|Feb-19-12|| ||Domdaniel: Arkell wins. Hebden-Pein and Baburin-Lopez seem to be draws after all, and Adams gave up trying to beat Short in a 3-vs-2 drawn rook ending.|
So it'll be Short vs Jones for 1st place. Adams lurking behind, Istratescu knocked out of contention by the clock, and maybe Arkell could sneak up on the rail.
Is that a horseracing metaphor? Must be because his name suggests a legendary Irish horse called Arkle.
|Feb-19-12|| ||Domdaniel: Last round: Short (4.5) vs Jones (4.5), Adams (4) vs Galego (3.5), and another six players also on 3.5. Could it finish in a 3-way tie? |
Computerized pairings can be cruel, but at least they're objective. Swissmaster just runs its algorithms, et voila.
|Feb-19-12|| ||waustad: And they're off!|
|Feb-19-12|| ||frogbert: ezzy, i think your guess is wrong; events can be fide rated without qualifying for titles. but thx for correcting the increment info.|
dom, games against unrated players do generally not count, whether for getting a rating or rating adjustments (for those who already have a fide rating).
king death, except the much higher rating floor (lower bound) for fide ratings when you were active, there also was the problem of short us weekend swisses: you need minimum 3 games against rated opponents to get a rating norm, and previously both title and rating norms expired after some time. also, not all organizers choose to have their event be fide rated.
these days i don't think it's too hard to get a fide rating anywhere; norms don't expire and nearly every club player is strong enough to get a rating (lower bound is currently 1200 i think).
|Feb-19-12|| ||Penguincw: Awesome perfect start by Short. If only he had to face Adams or Jones.|
|Feb-19-12|| ||frogbert: ezzy, you should look at the rating regulations of the qc - B02 in the handbook. (you quoted B01.) 3 rounds per day is the upper limit (see 3.0) and hence explicitly allowed.|
|Feb-19-12|| ||Penguincw: Important clash today.
click for larger view
Already an interesting game.
|Feb-19-12|| ||Veryrusty: In Round 6's Short-Jones, Nigel's inventiveness continues; he played 2. b3 in a Sicilian, Jones reacted incorrectly, and with 6. e6! Nigel's completely tangled up Black.|
|Feb-19-12|| ||Penguincw: Live games: http://www.icu.2seeitlive.com/bunra....|
|Feb-19-12|| ||frogbert: the rule about minimum #games only applies to your <first> rating norm, btw. you also need to score at least 1 point when getting your first norm.|
|Feb-19-12|| ||waustad: With the other games I've been watching in Tbilisi and Latvia, it seems strange that they are going so slowly here. Rapids are fun to watch, but accuracy often slips.|
|Feb-19-12|| ||Penguincw: Short ready for a crushing double attack with the knight on rather d5 or e4. If black wants to play d5 to stop both, then just Nxd5 is good enough, taking advantage of the pin. Other moves are h4, or Bc4+.|
|Feb-19-12|| ||frogbert: regarding rate of play it turns out to be dependent on the <highest rated> player in the event: if s/he's rated 1600-2199 then for instance these are acceptable time controls:|
1h/40 moves + 30 min to finish the game
90 min for the game
75 min + 15 sec increment
the actual rule can be found in B.02.1.1
|Feb-19-12|| ||waustad: I was just looking at the Chess-results Server and I couldn't find Ireland.|
|Feb-19-12|| ||Penguincw: One open file in Galego-Adams, which is the b-file due an earlier en passant.|
|Feb-19-12|| ||Penguincw: Queenside castling maybe for Short.|
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