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|May-03-12|| ||Strongest Force: I might add that it could be my story of this park event that prompted Carlsen to seek punishment of Nak in Moscow; then Carlsen came looking for action in the park. Nak had been talking trash to Carlsen at ICC.|
|May-03-12|| ||Shams: <Strongest Force> 20 seconds on the clock means furious scrambling from the get-go; when money is involved how does that not end up in argument?|
|May-03-12|| ||Strongest Force: <Shams> that is great thinking on your part. You must have seen some interesting chess action yourself. Nak had lots of friends there and it came to a point where Nak stopped trying to defend himself against what amounted to cheating accusations. His friends argued for him while Nak had his head in his hands and looked exusted.|
|May-03-12|| ||Shams: Well, we all remember the blitz game that cost Krush the U.S. Championship a few years ago-- seven seconds to two in her favor and she lost in the the piece flurry. Nobody did anything wrong that day but the format led to bitterness, as it must. |
At 300/20 time odds there's just no way Nakamura doesn't end up messing up the board and thereafter fixing it <on his opponent's time>, which may not be "cheating" in a malicious sense but it does transcend a cardinal rule of blitz play, which exists for a good reason.
My opinion, such miniscule time controls are for online only. If there are real stakes, play 3/2. All the online videos of the World Blitz Championship prove that's the best time control.
|May-03-12|| ||Shams: When did Carlsen visit Washington Square Park? By the way, did we ever learn who the GM in the AMP can was?
|May-03-12|| ||Strongest Force: <Shams> it was on Carlsen's first ever visit to NYC...whenever that was. I dont know that other stuff you wanted to know.|
|May-03-12|| ||JustWon: Irina throwing the Queen at the spectators was the icing on the cake of one of the greatest chess scrambles ever. Youtube it if you missed it .|
|May-04-12|| ||JustWon: <Strongest Force> I was a young master (2300) that excelled at speed chess (I could move very fast too). Yaz was the best I played, Dzindi was very close as well and could take me at 5-1. 5 min to 20 seconds sounds absurd or even 30 seconds OTB. Maybe on the internet with premoves and such.|
|May-04-12|| ||Naniwazu: Go Kamsky!|
|May-04-12|| ||Riverbeast: <The master was 2350 uscf and the son of famous parents>|
I know who it is, and I heard about it from others who saw the match
(Some of them said the handicap was 5 minutes to 30 seconds...)
The master in question had been retired, and had not played serious chess in many years
They were playing for $10,000 a game...and Nakamura (and his backers) won about $80,000
So the retired master in question is apparently very well off these days, if he can afford to gamble that kind of money on blitz games....
|May-04-12|| ||Strongest Force: RB, thx 4 that info. You are one of the few players I would trust with that kind of information.|
|May-04-12|| ||Riverbeast: <Strongest Force> You saw the match, right?|
I'm just reporting what I heard from people who saw it...I didn't see it myself
|May-04-12|| ||Strongest Force: <RiverBeast>, I was there but I had my own match going. While former teen warbucks was losing money to Nak another teen wonder (former) was getting killed by me. All 3 of us were friends when warbucks was between 10-14 and the wonder I was spanking had finished 3rd at US open (as a teen!) one year. He has not allowed me to mention his name here but many can guess. It was he who kept me informed of Nak match.|
|May-04-12|| ||Strongest Force: <JustWon>, most folks don't know Yaz is one of the best blitz players until they flash lots of money in his face. Prior to that, he keeps a low profile and is a perfect gentleman. He is always the perfect gentleman.|
|May-04-12|| ||andrewjsacks: Not to root for Naka is lame. Great talent and creative player and a regular guy. Yaz is talented and a fine man, and we like to see him get back and do well. As for Kamsky, where do these fanboys come from? Check the history and do not forget his father. Where are the admirable qualities? Yes, a very strong and dangerous opponent, and a will to win to beat the band. Also, given too many breaks in seedings and invitations in the past. Why--I do not pretend to know. Go Naka!|
|May-04-12|| ||Riverbeast: <As for Kamsky, where do these fanboys come from? Check the history and do not forget his father>|
What history are you referring to?
Kamsky is a great guy...Quiet but very nice...I think most people who know him (from the new york area, at least) would probably agree
I've never heard a negative word or story said about him
I played him once....At one of the G/30 tournaments in NYC, back when he used to play in those (the result? I'll give you one guess)
He used to stop to analyze weaker player's games sometimes....At that point he was an elite GM or close to it, so I thought that was pretty decent of him
|May-04-12|| ||Jim Bartle: Kamsky gave a totally ridiculous interview to Inside Chess in 1991, accusing Kasparov of poisoning him as his reason for his disastrous performance at Linares 1991. He made all sorts of other outrageous claims in the interview.|
The interviewer claimed Kamsky's father wasn't present, but that seems dubious, and maybe the interview can be laid at Rustam's feet.
Other than that, Gata seems to have behaved all right, though always under the shadow of his father's despicable behavior.
|May-04-12|| ||Riverbeast: <JB> I never read that interview|
Otherwise, I always thought a lot of people blamed Gata for Rustam's actions, which doesn't seem too fair
|May-04-12|| ||Jim Bartle: I agree with you, Riverbeast. That's why I said it was doubtful Gata did the interview without his father present. He had it tough back then, no doubt.|
|May-04-12|| ||parmetd: To andrew I have nothing to say except GO GATA GO!
Gata is one the nicest GMs I have ever met. Adams too.
|May-04-12|| ||andrewjsacks: My pleasure to have started this animated discussion. If in fact Gata has mellowed and come out of the shadow of his incorrigible father, fine. <Jim> I also saw and gaped at the comments in that incredible interview...|
|May-05-12|| ||parmetd: I played Gata in a simul in Dec 2010. He not only let the players choose their color (rather than taking white) but also he spent nearly an hour afterwards analyzing the games (well over 30 minutes on my game alone!). He then gave a free surprise 2 hour lecture on games he played.|
|May-05-12|| ||HeMateMe: I think the history of it is that Kamsky tried to defect at age 14. His family was visiting the USA, mabye Chicago, not sure. He made a public statement, saying that He wanted to remain in the USA because "There is greater freedom here, and more food". I'm not joking about the food part, I think that's a direct quote.|
One gets the feeling that maybe he was trying to get away from a controlling father, as much as he was trying to get out of the USSR. Apparetnly he would have stayed with relatives in Chicago, and his immediate family would go back to the USSR. Clearly, a 14 year old would be troubled, to take such action.
I think his whole family was given a visa to stay, at some point. Not sure about the details. But, he was very young.
After their experiences with Bobby Fischer, I wonder if the State Department was all that keen on breaking the rules for another chess prodigy?
|May-05-12|| ||Blunderdome: I like Seirawan. I read one of his books two years ago and learned a good deal from it, and he's fairly interesting as an analyst. They've had him live for a few of the events at the St. Louis club.|
|May-05-12|| ||parmetd: HMM,
I don't know the full details of the story either but I know that Freddy Gruenberg is the reason both Gurevich and Kamsky settled in Chicago initially as he was the financial life line for both of these men.
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