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|Jun-12-12|| ||drnooo: something is missing in Carlsen this tourney seems to me, tomorrow Radjabov will scalp him in less than 40, normally I shun these predictions but looking at their last few years manana belongs to Rad|
|Jun-12-12|| ||Eyal: <Interestingly, Morozevich has never beaten Aronian, while Aronian's last win over Morozevich was four years ago.> |
Six year ago, actually (in the Tal Memorial 2006); since then they played six more classical games and all of them were drawn.
[As usual, this datatbase is very unreliable in head-to-head scores when it comes to separating classical from non-classical games, because there are many cases in which whole rapid tournaments are mistakenly tagged as classical - such as the Asrian Memorial of 2008, in this case]
|Jun-12-12|| ||Mr. Bojangles: I hope Kramnik tears that Naka a new orifice tomorrow.|
|Jun-12-12|| ||messachess: <<drnooo> something is missing in Carlsen this tourney seems to me, tomorrow Radjabov will scalp him in less than 40...>|
Something is missing, but the tournament is long enough for him to regain some form and grind one out later. I predict 2 wins for Carlsen, no losses.
|Jun-12-12|| ||dumbgai: <hellopolgar: Hopefully Naka will be able to squish Alexander Grischuk like a bug. no disrespect to the latter but Naka somehow just has his number.> I I don't think +1 in 6 games (= if rapid+blitz games are included) counts as having someone's number.|
|Jun-12-12|| ||fisayo123: <Mr.Bojangles> I don't think Vlady gets down like that :)|
|Jun-12-12|| ||soldal: <MOLLOYCHESS: Does anyone have the link to the online russia chess round 4 video please?>|
Complete videos plus separate videos of the post-game commentaries from all rounds:
Today's Carlsen and Nakamura analysis are tagged "19:05" and "20:17", each lasting 13-14 minutes.
|Jun-12-12|| ||hellopolgar: haha Carlsen said "what the @#$%" in the video around 19:19:35.|
|Jun-12-12|| ||Bobwhoosta: The amazing fighting spirit and uncompromising complexities we've seen at the Tal Memorial so far remind me of our recent World Championship Match.|
|Jun-12-12|| ||Arcturar: The first time (Wijk An Zee), I thought Carlsen's outburst was amusing, understandable, and nothing of concern. This time I am much less impressed. There was no point in swearing and he seemed to do it purely out of habit, which is worrying...Sure, everyone swears, but he is doing it live and in the position of a role model...|
|Jun-12-12|| ||Octal: Wait, what was the Wijk An Zee incident with Carlsen?|
|Jun-13-12|| ||selfmate: The whole swearing taboo in society has always amused me. |
The adults get together and swear but don't do it around the kids. The kids get together and swear but don't do it around the adults. You can put a group of people, every individual of which swears, together in a business meeting and suddenly no one is swearing. All a bunch of affected b.s.
|Jun-13-12|| ||HeMateMe: Four draws for Carlsen--where's the fire, baby?|
|Jun-13-12|| ||selfmate: <Octal>
Carlsen dropped the f-bomb in a post game interview. Video here:
|Jun-13-12|| ||frogbert: voyager, is this close to what you think/feel?
a) 2012 wc match = high quality
b) 2012 tal memorial rounds 1-4 = low quality
i ask because i can't recall any similar rants from you when anand had us on the edge of our chairs for the best part of may.
|Jun-13-12|| ||selfmate: <HeMateMe: Four draws for Carlsen--where's the fire, baby?>|
Grischuk was wearing his fire retardant suit today. He just wouldn't catch.
|Jun-13-12|| ||visayanbraindoctor: There seems to be the expectation that Carlsen should be scoring better than 4 straight draws, and that the main reason for not doing any better is because of poor opening prep. Let us examine his games:|
round 1 vs. Kramnik
Both were out of prep early in the opening. Then in the opening to middlegame transition, Carlsen missed a tactical shot which handed a possibly winning advantage to Kramnik, who on the other hand was not able to find the computer line that would have led to an overwhelming position. Then again Carlsen is not immune to missing tactical shots; it could have happened in another opening against another player or further on in the middlegame.
round 2 vs. Morozevich
Carlsen may have fallen into an opening trap. Morozevich blunders a winning endgame away. Happens.
round 3 vs. Caruana
Caruana playing Black equalized. The middlegame was more or less equal, and they drew. Now this probably occurs in more than half of GM games. Nothing particularly peculiar with this.
round 4 vs. Grischuk
The players entered the middlegame with more or less equal chances. Carlsen decided to 'sacrifice' his dark squared bishop, stranding it, for what he deemed as sufficient attacking chances. Then came a double edged tactical melee in which both sides had their chances, but ended in a perpetual. This kind of play could have occurred in middlegames after other openings.
As far as I can see, the only game where Carlsen mishandled the opening was in his game with Morozevich.
If the above sequence of games happened to another player, say Nakamura, I suspect that no one would comment much.
(In fact, Naka may have misplayed the opening in his game vs McShane; but there is not as many comments on this as there are with Carlsen's.)
|Jun-13-12|| ||Bureaucrat: Good post, VBD.|
|Jun-13-12|| ||coolchess1: Carlsen is very good at smashing the lower end opponents. He still has few tailenders, and he can come back to a good position in this tourney.|
|Jun-13-12|| ||jaseemalikt: <If the above sequence of games happened to another player, say Nakamura, I suspect that no one would comment much.> Nakamura and Carlsen are not of the same level|
|Jun-13-12|| ||Eyal: In sharp contrast to the recent WC match, there seems to be hardly any audience in the playing hall at Moscow:|
<The Moscow chess public is nevertheless a strange beast: the more interesting the action the less attention it pays [...] Official commentator Mark Glukhovsky's words were a cry from the soul after he went down to the hall for a moment to see if Nakamura and Caruana were still "alive". "On my way I encountered a couple of arbiters, three cameramen, the director, about five of the organisers, a few journalists, two players andů one spectator!"
Yes, the Candidates Tournament in London really did play a dirty trick on the Tal Memorial. The Russian Chess Federation managed to rush to move their tournament from November to June, only to confirm that you simply can't hold a supertournament in Moscow in summer. Or rather, you can of course hold it, perhaps the players will also come, and you can do everything to a high standard... but it's just that in advance you have to come to terms with the hall being empty. Holidays, dachas! Even if a dozen Carlsens were playing.> (From the 2nd round report by Evgeny Atarov, translated by Colin Mcgourty / <polarmis> on whychess)
|Jun-13-12|| ||KnightPusher: I'd rather have someone swear 1 billion times live and be positive for humanity than never swear and be a detriment. That's my "role model".|
|Jun-13-12|| ||PhilFeeley: Back on our regularly scheduled programming, Radjabov and Carlsen are about to head into a queenless ending - by move 10!|
|Jun-13-12|| ||GilesFarnaby: Moro playing the slav:
A true homage to Tal. To Tal's drinking habits, specifically.
|Jun-13-12|| ||k.khalil: He is also contemplating Bxh2?!|
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